Yes, I've read the topic (sticky): http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=74393 However, it does not explain how to get brawl in the first place. Personally, I already own brawl, but I would like to know how to back up duel-layered Wii games in preparation for the future (more wii games duel-layered will be released). Do NOT go and say riddles like this: I'll give you a clue, you can get it from a program that starts with 'B' and rhymes with LitTorrent. 1. I live in Australia, we have crappiest internet in the world (no cheap, unlimited broadband 0_0). I have one of the drives that supports backing up of Wii games (using Raw Dumper). It can actually read Brawl, (on the PC it shows the size of the disc and stuff) but when it comes to copying it with Raw Dumper (2.1 to be exact, has a BETA feature to support duel-layered Wii games, but it doesn't work). Does anyone have a program that can backup brawl from a drive that can read it?