Baby girl mistakes a gun with Wii controller and dies

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The color should have given it away, not to mention the weight, feel, etc.
It's too bad the girl didn't accidentally shoot her dumbass father instead, I know a few cases where that has happened, but never where the child kills his/herself.
It doesn't really add up to me either. If she knew how to play the Wii she wouldn't be aiming at herself, instead, their T.V. would be broken. If she didn't know about the Wii, then you can't really say she mistook the real gun for the Wii gun. Again, another tragedy being blamed on video games or the purpose of sensationalism and sympathy.

@raulpica: That's a very interesting accusation: the parents killed her and made it look like an accidental suicide. Seems a lot more believable than what was reported.
 

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DeMoN said:
The color should have given it away, not to mention the weight, feel, etc.
It's too bad the girl didn't accidentally shoot her dumbass father instead, I know a few cases where that has happened, but never where the child kills his/herself.
It doesn't really add up to me either. If she knew how to play the Wii she wouldn't be aiming at herself, instead, their T.V. would be broken. If she didn't know about the Wii, then you can't really say she mistook the real gun for the Wii gun. Again, another tragedy being blamed on video games or the purpose of sensationalism and sympathy.
actually, that DOES make sense
keep in mind that childeren of 3 years old might not fully have developed a conciousness and aren't always able to use common sense or logic during this time.
that, and some childeren like to hold everything and touch everything. pointing the gun at the wrong place at the wrong time....BANG HEADSHOT
 

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Daco said:
DeMoN said:
The color should have given it away, not to mention the weight, feel, etc.
It's too bad the girl didn't accidentally shoot her dumbass father instead, I know a few cases where that has happened, but never where the child kills his/herself.
It doesn't really add up to me either. If she knew how to play the Wii she wouldn't be aiming at herself, instead, their T.V. would be broken. If she didn't know about the Wii, then you can't really say she mistook the real gun for the Wii gun. Again, another tragedy being blamed on video games or the purpose of sensationalism and sympathy.
actually, that DOES make sense
keep in mind that childeren of 3 years old might not fully have developed a conciousness and aren't always able to use common sense or logic during this time.
that, and some childeren like to hold everything and touch everything. pointing the gun at the wrong place at the wrong time....BANG HEADSHOT

I'd blame the father or whoever had the bright idea to leave the gun in reach of a 3 year old child.
Video games are not the culprit, bad parenting is.
 

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_Chaz_ said:
Daco said:
DeMoN said:
The color should have given it away, not to mention the weight, feel, etc.
It's too bad the girl didn't accidentally shoot her dumbass father instead, I know a few cases where that has happened, but never where the child kills his/herself.
It doesn't really add up to me either. If she knew how to play the Wii she wouldn't be aiming at herself, instead, their T.V. would be broken. If she didn't know about the Wii, then you can't really say she mistook the real gun for the Wii gun. Again, another tragedy being blamed on video games or the purpose of sensationalism and sympathy.
actually, that DOES make sense
keep in mind that childeren of 3 years old might not fully have developed a conciousness and aren't always able to use common sense or logic during this time.
that, and some childeren like to hold everything and touch everything. pointing the gun at the wrong place at the wrong time....BANG HEADSHOT


I'd blame the father or whoever had the bright idea to leave the gun in reach of a 3 year old child.
Video games are not the culprit, bad parenting is.

QUOTE(Daco @ Mar 8 2010, 07:46 PM) a girl who did not have a conciousness died, and the parents who are retarded as fuck now feel (if they have feelings, maybe they are to stupid for feelings) pain.

the kid should have shot the parents, less idiocy in the world



if you can't follow , why the hell was a real gun within range of a fucking 3 year old?


EDIT: maybe the parents were gbafail readers

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(7:49:15 PM) anonymous:
that's fucked up
(7:49:36 PM) Daco:
my comment or the topic
(7:49:42 PM) anonymous:
topic
(7:50:05 PM) Daco:
its not fucked up, its a nice example of how fucking retarded humanity is atm
did i say otherwise then?
 

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Now all the anti gun assholes are going to try to use this tragedy to try to take guns away from responsible people. I'll bet you anything that the parents weren't legally licensed to own a gun and they sure as hell weren't storing it legally. One more thing I bet they were selling meth out of their house and probably doing it as well but the media will never tell that side of it because they have an agenda.
 

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In New York (One of the states) you are not allowed to have any kind of gun. Only cops are allowed.

This is the least true thing I have ever seen. There's this cool document in the US called 'The Constitution.' It gives citizens the right to bear arms. And regardless of how you feel, it is very legal to own a gun in New York.

With that being said, bad bad bad guns kill people we shuld band them lol guns r soooo bad!!!

^^That's what you'll see on the news coverage about this.
 

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Pliskron said:
Now all the anti gun assholes are going to try to use this tragedy to try to take guns away from responsible people. I'll bet you anything that the parents weren't legally licensed to own a gun and they sure as hell weren't storing it legally. One more thing I bet they were selling meth out of their house and probably doing it as well but the media will never tell that side of it because they have an agenda.
That post was fine up until you started talking out of your ass.

Don't do that.

EDIT: To clarify, that last sentence of yours is what I'm talking about. The rest of the post is a reasonable conclusion seeing as they showed barely any proper handling of the weapon, but the last sentence is just you talking out of your ass.
 

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Pliskron said:
Now all the anti gun assholes are going to try to use this tragedy to try to take guns away from responsible people. I'll bet you anything that the parents weren't legally licensed to own a gun and they sure as hell weren't storing it legally.

Oh puhlease! Anti-Gun laws are just common sense really. America experiences a very high gun-crime rate because guns are legal and available there. Why do you need a gun in today's world except for shooting etc.? Rifles are the only guns that should be made available in my opinion and then only with the proper training and licensing for game-shooting, anything else is for military use only. Britain is proof that gun laws like this work at least in part, our firearms laws are some of the tightest around and as a result it is very hard for criminals to get guns here. Knife crime has gone up as a result but that's understandable and a hell of a lot less damaging than having gun=toting maniacs running around. As you can tell I'm a very anti-gun kinda guy. I don't see why civilians should have them at all unless they are for hunting purposes.

As for this thing, as I think about it I realise just how hard it would be for a 3 year old to shoot herself. Mistake the gun for a Wii Remote I can understand and I can imagine her playing around with it a bit and pointing it at herself but being able to pull the trigger must take some effort for a 3 year old. I'd imagine she'd give up before she could pull it.
 

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Jamstruth said:
Pliskron said:
Now all the anti gun assholes are going to try to use this tragedy to try to take guns away from responsible people. I'll bet you anything that the parents weren't legally licensed to own a gun and they sure as hell weren't storing it legally.

Oh puhlease! Anti-Gun laws are just common sense really. America experiences a very high gun-crime rate because guns are legal and available there. Why do you need a gun in today's world except for shooting etc.? Rifles are the only guns that should be made available in my opinion and then only with the proper training and licensing for game-shooting, anything else is for military use only. Britain is proof that gun laws like this work at least in part, our firearms laws are some of the tightest around and as a result it is very hard for criminals to get guns here. Knife crime has gone up as a result but that's understandable and a hell of a lot less damaging than having gun=toting maniacs running around. As you can tell I'm a very anti-gun kinda guy. I don't see why civilians should have them at all unless they are for hunting purposes.

TBF if I remember correctly, a lot of gun crime in the US are from the black market. SAying that I do agree with you about gun ownership, I don't think there's any valid reasons for someone to personally own a live gun. Personally I wouldn't want to see gun ownership in the UK.
 

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Jamstruth said:
Pliskron said:
Now all the anti gun assholes are going to try to use this tragedy to try to take guns away from responsible people. I'll bet you anything that the parents weren't legally licensed to own a gun and they sure as hell weren't storing it legally.

Oh puhlease! Anti-Gun laws are just common sense really. America experiences a very high gun-crime rate because guns are legal and available there. Why do you need a gun in today's world except for shooting etc.? Rifles are the only guns that should be made available in my opinion and then only with the proper training and licensing for game-shooting, anything else is for military use only. Britain is proof that gun laws like this work at least in part, our firearms laws are some of the tightest around and as a result it is very hard for criminals to get guns here. Knife crime has gone up as a result but that's understandable and a hell of a lot less damaging than having gun=toting maniacs running around. As you can tell I'm a very anti-gun kinda guy. I don't see why civilians should have them at all unless they are for hunting purposes.

As for this thing, as I think about it I realise just how hard it would be for a 3 year old to shoot herself. Mistake the gun for a Wii Remote I can understand and I can imagine her playing around with it a bit and pointing it at herself but being able to pull the trigger must take some effort for a 3 year old. I'd imagine she'd give up before she could pull it.
Every time you enact gun laws gun crime goes though the roof. Thats because it's easy to get an illegal gun. Just look at DC which had some of the toughest gun laws, that lead to the nations highest gun crime. I have a natural right to protect my life and the life of my family with deadly force if necessary. Thats a right enshrined in my nations constitution. As far as European socialists go, I think you suck and should mind your own business. If you don't want to have guns don't but don;t preach to me. The reason my grandparents left Europe is because it sucked and you know what. It still sucks.

BTW England has far more gun crime now than it did when hand gun ownership was legal, same with Canada. If you're looking to curb gun deaths these laws have the opposite effect. So that amounts to a feel good law.
 

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Pliskron said:
Jamstruth said:
Pliskron said:
Now all the anti gun assholes are going to try to use this tragedy to try to take guns away from responsible people. I'll bet you anything that the parents weren't legally licensed to own a gun and they sure as hell weren't storing it legally.

Oh puhlease! Anti-Gun laws are just common sense really. America experiences a very high gun-crime rate because guns are legal and available there. Why do you need a gun in today's world except for shooting etc.? Rifles are the only guns that should be made available in my opinion and then only with the proper training and licensing for game-shooting, anything else is for military use only. Britain is proof that gun laws like this work at least in part, our firearms laws are some of the tightest around and as a result it is very hard for criminals to get guns here. Knife crime has gone up as a result but that's understandable and a hell of a lot less damaging than having gun=toting maniacs running around. As you can tell I'm a very anti-gun kinda guy. I don't see why civilians should have them at all unless they are for hunting purposes.

As for this thing, as I think about it I realise just how hard it would be for a 3 year old to shoot herself. Mistake the gun for a Wii Remote I can understand and I can imagine her playing around with it a bit and pointing it at herself but being able to pull the trigger must take some effort for a 3 year old. I'd imagine she'd give up before she could pull it.
Every time you enact gun laws gun crime goes though the roof. Thats because it's easy to get an illegal gun. Just look at DC which had some of the toughest gun laws, that lead to the nations highest gun crime. I have a natural right to protect my life and the life of my family with deadly force if necessary. Thats a right enshrined in my nations constitution. As far as European socialists go, I think you suck and should mind your own business. If you don't want to have guns don't but don;t preach to me. The reason my grandparents left Europe is because it sucked and you know what. It still sucks. It will always suck.

Added a bit for you.
 

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Pliskron said:
Every time you enact gun laws gun crime goes though the roof. Thats because it's easy to get an illegal gun. Just look at DC which had some of the toughest gun laws, that lead to the nations highest gun crime. I have a natural right to protect my life and the life of my family with deadly force if necessary. Thats a right enshrined in my nations constitution.

I agree up to this part (I think you got a little nasty towards the end
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EDIT: Actually, seeing how there is such a moronic denial of freedom in this country, I'm just going to edit that to avoid possible problems down the road. No sense getting in trouble for what you're thinking!
 

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Guns should be illegal worldwide. There's no justifiable reason for a civilian to carry a gun.
 

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Pliskron said:
Jamstruth said:
Pliskron said:
Now all the anti gun assholes are going to try to use this tragedy to try to take guns away from responsible people. I'll bet you anything that the parents weren't legally licensed to own a gun and they sure as hell weren't storing it legally.

Oh puhlease! Anti-Gun laws are just common sense really. America experiences a very high gun-crime rate because guns are legal and available there. Why do you need a gun in today's world except for shooting etc.? Rifles are the only guns that should be made available in my opinion and then only with the proper training and licensing for game-shooting, anything else is for military use only. Britain is proof that gun laws like this work at least in part, our firearms laws are some of the tightest around and as a result it is very hard for criminals to get guns here. Knife crime has gone up as a result but that's understandable and a hell of a lot less damaging than having gun=toting maniacs running around. As you can tell I'm a very anti-gun kinda guy. I don't see why civilians should have them at all unless they are for hunting purposes.

As for this thing, as I think about it I realise just how hard it would be for a 3 year old to shoot herself. Mistake the gun for a Wii Remote I can understand and I can imagine her playing around with it a bit and pointing it at herself but being able to pull the trigger must take some effort for a 3 year old. I'd imagine she'd give up before she could pull it.
Every time you enact gun laws gun crime goes though the roof. Thats because it's easy to get an illegal gun. Just look at DC which had some of the toughest gun laws, that lead to the nations highest gun crime. I have a natural right to protect my life and the life of my family with deadly force if necessary. Thats a right enshrined in my nations constitution. As far as European socialists go, I think you suck and should mind your own business. If you don't want to have guns don't but don;t preach to me. The reason my grandparents left Europe is because it sucked and you know what. It still sucks.
HELLO THE EMBODIMENT OF ALL I HATE ABOUT AMERICA!!!!! Seriously, you're like a caricature. I thought people like this didn't exist outside of Fox News!

Since you guys have a right to bear firearms in your Constitution all gun laws are inherently flawed in America. If need be they can just be smuggled for over the State border, stolen from shops etc. They're still legal and available just slightly harder to obtain. The reason everybody in America feels they need a gun is because so many criminals find it easy to obtain them, take away the easiness of this by seriously reforming gun laws - removing the right to bear arms from the constituion etc. - and the need for a gun dissipates. You still have the right to defend yourself if need be but let's face it we all hope that this will never happen.

As for your blanket statement that Europe sucks, screw you! Europe rocks, we've got all the history and culture over here! Great scenery, diverse cultures, good food! Also, are you sure you understand "Socialism" there are varying degrees going from Communism (which you Americans seem to have had drilled into you as EVIL EVIL EVIL!!!) to what most countries in Europe have which has a hell of a lot of freedom and choice in what we do and say with a few benefits you Americans don't get such as free Health Care (to a point). I'll be the first to admit that I don't fully understand the terminology so I may have gotten this wrong somebody can correct me if they wish.

Edit: Here's an article with some Gun Crime figures in the uk http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6960431.stm Unfortunately it only shows figures back to 98 so I don't get the full picture. I'd imagine part of the increase involves the widening of the term "Gun Crime" to include some offences which were not counted as such before. Here's another article showing some stats.
 

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Well there was just a massacre in Nigeria where 500 were slaughtered "with machetes" not guns. Bombers blowing up markets and killing 100's with items you can buy at a hardware store, no guns there. Seems like people kill people and they'll use anything to get the job done. You going to ban cars and cooking knives next? Yeah sorry for getting a little nasty but I can't stand it when people mostly from Europe and even here to some degree try to take away things from people and make decisions in their best interest because they know whats best.
 

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Pliskron said:
Well there was just a massacre in Nigeria where 500 were slaughtered "with machetes" not guns. Bombers blowing up markets and killing 100's with items you can buy at a hardware store, no guns there. Seems like people kill people and they'll use anything to get the job done. You going to ban cars and cooking knives next? Yeah sorry for getting a little nasty but I can't stand it when people mostly from Europe and even here to some degree try to take away things from people and make decisions in their best interest because they know whats best.
Except a gun has no use besides taking a live.
 

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