Hacking AutoRCM CFW VS OFW Clean Switch; A Quick Battery Comparison

[Kubas_inko]

13 modded switches here and it seems auto rcm is acting up with battery.

Remove it and test it again. That what should everyone do.

 

[tiliarou]

This thread is pure BS...
AutoRCM has nothing "running" per say, it's a simple BOOT corruption to enter RCM at every boot. It CAN'T affect battery life in Horizon.
The only thing that can is the CFW/bootloader you use.

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13 modded switches here and it seems auto rcm is acting up with battery.

Can you then provide actual test methodology and some figures ? A blunt sentences without any supporting argumentation has absolutely no value...

 

[kumikochan]

This thread is pure BS...
AutoRCM has nothing "running" per say, it's a simple BOOT corruption to enter RCM at every boot. It CAN'T affect battery life in Horizon.
The only thing that can is the CFW/bootloader you use.

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Can you then provide actual test methodology and some figures ? A blunt sentences without any supporting argumentation has absolutely no value...

well that's your opinion tho, there have been plenty of users including myself who see the battery draining faster after using autorcm. Maybe it has to do with using it for a longer period of time and seeing the other thread that the switch doesn't truly shut off when using autorcm even when holding the power button for a longer time that the battery will diminish a lot faster because of the constant strain on it and that could be the reason that a lot of people see their battery draining faster after a while with using autorcm. Who knows but in the end people do see battery drainage a lot more when using autorcm

 

[tiliarou]

well that's your opinion tho, there have been plenty of users including myself who see the battery draining faster after using autorcm. Maybe it has to do with using it for a longer period of time and seeing the other thread that the switch doesn't truly shut off when using autorcm even when holding the power button for a longer time that the battery will diminish a lot faster because of the constant strain on it and that could be the reason that a lot of people see their battery draining faster after a while with using autorcm. Who knows but in the end people do see battery drainage a lot more when using autorcm

Ok fair enough, I'm not denying you have issues, but most of you don't provide any figures or a basic test steps, like we don't even know your switch firmware rev, we don't know how you "installed" RCM, which payload you used, which option etc...
So as of right now, nothing proves AutoRCM has an impact on Horizon battery life.
It's literally one or a few bytes changed "statically'", it doesn't run anything so it can't be linked logically and directly to battery life per say.

 

[kumikochan]

Ok fair enough, I'm not denying you have issues, but most of you don't provide any figures or a basic test steps, like we don't even know your switch firmware rev, we don't know how you "installed" RCM, which payload you used, which option etc...
So as of right now, nothing proves AutoRCM has an impact on Horizon battery life.
It's literally one or a few bytes changed "statically'", it doesn't run anything so it can't be linked logically and directly to battery life per say.

Nobody knows what is causing it or if it imagination. I'm just saying that it could be something is doing it. My guess is the battery dying much faster because of autorcm the switch being powered on constantly seeing manually turning off the switch doesn't really work

 

[Kubas_inko]

Nobody knows what is causing it or if it imagination. I'm just saying that it could be something is doing it. My guess is the battery dying much faster because of autorcm the switch being powered on constantly seeing manually turning off the switch doesn't really work

You can force shut down the Switch.

 

[kumikochan]

You can force shut down the Switch.

No there is another thread that showed the switch doesn't truly turn off when using autorcm. It just boots back in to RCM after a while.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/psa-man...es-not-turn-off-a-switch-with-autorcm.515402/
Findings show that you have to be in RCM mode and from RCM mode do the 12 seconds shutdown. It doesn't work from Horizon when using autorcm because after it being powered off after a few seconds it boots back in to RCM

 

[Kubas_inko]

No there is another thread that showed the switch doesn't truly turn off when using autorcm. It just boots back in to RCM after a while.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/psa-man...es-not-turn-off-a-switch-with-autorcm.515402/
Findings show that you have to be in RCM mode and from RCM mode do the 12 seconds shutdown. It doesn't work from Horizon when using autorcm because after it being powered off after a few seconds it boots back in to RCM

Yea. Those 12 secs are the force shut down. And you can do it from RCM and horizon too. Just hold power button for 12+ seconds.

 

[kumikochan]

Yea. Those 12 secs are the force shut down. And you can do it from RCM and horizon too. Just hold power button for 12+ seconds.

and the findings in that thread is that it doesn't work !!!! It boots back in to RCM after a while after doing that when using Autorcm. The only way people found it it works on that thread is letting it boot in to RCM and then doing the manually force shutdown from there. Doing it from horizon doesn't work !!! It goes back in to RCM after a while when doing it that way. The general gist of it, want to turn of your switch while using autorcm is doing it from RCM mode and if you don't want to do it like that then don't use autorcm

 

[Kubas_inko]

and the findings in that thread is that it doesn't work !!!! It boots back in to RCM after a while after doing that when using Autorcm. The only way people found it it works on that thread is letting it boot in to RCM and then doing the manually force shutdown from there. Doing it from horizon doesn't work !!! It goes back in to RCM after a while when doing it that way

And other people are having success with it. It works for some!!!

 

[kumikochan]

And other people are having success with it. It works for some!!!

Only a couple of times. There was a user who stated it works sometimes but sometimes it doesn't so my point still stands

 

[Kubas_inko]

Only a couple of times. There was a user who stated it works sometimes but sometimes it doesn't so my point still stands

Mine too, cause it works perfectly for me (on both of my switches).

 

[kumikochan]

Mine too, cause it works perfectly for me (on both of my switches).

that's good for you but that has zero still to do with what I said being that people who report battery drainage when using autorcm may be because of the switch not really turning off and the battery degrading way faster because of that. I'm not saying that is the reason but I'm stating that could be the reason.

 

[Kubas_inko]

that's good for you but that has zero still to do with what I said being that people who report battery drainage when using autorcm may be because of the switch not really turning off and the battery degrading way faster because of that. I'm not saying that is the reason but I'm stating that could be the reason.

But that's just because they don't know how to properly shut down their switch with AutoRCM.
And that's not the point of these "tests" anyway.

But I get your point.

 

[kumikochan]

But that's just because they don't know how to properly shut down their switch with AutoRCM.
And that's not the point of these "tests" anyway.

But I get your point.

They do. Are you really being a stubborn ass while countless of people have reported autorcm doesn't turn their switch off on horizon doing the force shutdown. So you're basically saying ur always correct and nobody else is and ur not open for any opinion besides your own.

 

[subcon959]

Interesting experiment but you didn't do a control first to see what the variance in battery was between the 2 Switches so no conclusion can really be made as such.

Also, to the people arguing about autorcm and battery life.. if you actually understand what autorcm is you would know that it's idiotic to suggest it could have any effect while in Horizon. The only time it drains battery is when people don't know how to turn the power off properly.

 

[kumikochan]

Interesting experiment but you didn't do a control first to see what the variance in battery was between the 2 Switches so no conclusion can really be made as such.

Also, to the people arguing about autorcm and battery life.. if you actually understand what autorcm is you would know that it's idiotic to suggest it could have any effect while in Horizon. The only time it drains battery is when people don't know how to turn the power off properly.

and if you did read what I said then you would have known me saying it could be because the battery is dying much faster because of autorcm having the switch always turned on seeing it doesn't turn off completely doing the force shutdown from Horizon.
It has been reported force shutdown doesn't work all the time when using autorcm doing it from horizon seeing it boots back in to RCM after doing that

 

[subcon959]

and if you did read what I said then you would have known me saying it could be because the battery is dying much faster because of autorcm having the switch always turned on seeing it doesn't turn off completely doing the force shutdown from Horizon.

That has zero to do with testing Bayonetta battery usage.

 

[Kubas_inko]

They do. Are you really being a stubborn ass while countless of people have reported autorcm doesn't turn their switch off on horizon doing the force shutdown. So you're basically saying ur always correct and nobody else is and ur not open for any opinion besides your own.

If they don't know how to turn the switch off while having AutoRCM, that's their problem and that is not what these tests are about. These tests are about battery life while playing, to about battery life while powered off.

 

[kumikochan]

That has zero to do with testing Bayonetta battery usage.

but it has to do with what you said and i'm responding to that
''Also, to the people arguing about autorcm and battery life.. if you actually understand what autorcm is you would know that it's idiotic to suggest it could have any effect while in Horizon. The only time it drains battery is when people don't know how to turn the power off properly.''

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If they don't know how to turn the switch off while having AutoRCM, that's their problem and that is not what these tests are about. These tests are about battery life while playing, to about battery life while powered off.

and I told you that the reason could be it not turning off and degrading the battery much faster because of that.
Why is your opinion good for this thread but mine isn'' ?