I wasn't aware that I had to remind you that we are talking about people's livelihood. My mistake.
You want to intentionally bankrupt the system that covers everyone, so yes, sabotage. Other words, "Taking away people's healthcare is justice."
Then it should be easy to show me this cheap completely free market system, that covers everyone.
How is this any different than a healthcare system that covers everyone, even the insolvent citizens? Your logic dictates that they shouldn't be paying for homeless services, because they don't use them.
It is inherently unfair for people that need healthcare, but can't afford it, especially since we have a way to cover everyone.
I never had my stuff burned down, therefor, I want the firefighter service shutdown. If the poor can't afford the ever increasing prices of private firefighters, too bad.
I'm sorry that there are people that keep claiming to care about other people and yet keep proving otherwise.
What other things constitute people’s livelihood? How about food? Shelter? Water? Electricity? What else am I expected to pay for, you can’t live without those either, effectively. Not that it matters, it’s not even an argument, I’m not responsible for strangers. The point flew over your head anyway.
I would love to see the NHS dismantled - it’s a monopoly on UK healthcare. Much like other monopolies, it could benefit from being splintered into (ideally) privately ran institutions rather than stay one inefficient government monster. The quickest way to do that is to make sure it runs out of money, which it’s doing anyway without the government doing anything. It doesn’t matter *what* they do, if the NHS was concerned with patching roads instead of healthcare I’d want to see it broken up all the same, the government has no business doing either.
I’m not ‘taking away people’s healthcare”, healthcare exists regardless of whether the NHS exists or not, I’m simply taking back my money, which is indeed justice. The sole reason why I make the homeless and insolvent exception is because *they’re insolvent* and ideally we shouldn’t have dead people littering the streets. People who do make income should purchase their own healthcare as opposed to getting dragged into a system they may or may not use on their own dime, as enforced by the government.
Switzerland’s healthcare system is completely private and covers everyone, so you’re right, it is quite easy to provide an example, and a good one considering Swiss healthcare is some of the best in the world. Even that system is a little too intrusive since insurance is compulsory - universality is not a goal I’m particularly interested in, “covering everyone” isn’t and shouldn’t be a must.
You are not entitled to other people’s money or labour, it is inherently unfair that you expect strangers to fund the lives of other strangers under the threat of force. Your sense of fairness is crooked because you’re uncomfortable with the concepts of death and disease - I’m not.
Firefighting started off as an entirely private venture, and it was profitable. Bad example, you don’t know history.
I care about other people, that’s why I want the government to stop stealing their money for superfluous, inefficient and poorly conceived nonsense.
As a side note, I know what you’re doing, because all of you guys do the same thing. You want to push for government control over the entire sector under the guise of benevolence, and you paint whoever opposes that as someone who lacks empathy. It’s not that the idea is poor and amoral, the problem is that the other person is just evil. It’s pretty transparent, and it’s not going to work on me. I believe that there are other, better ways of doing this that don’t involve massive government overreach and taxing people out the ass - plenty of countries around the world figured it out. I’m okay playing the role of a villain though - I don’t really care what you think of me, attacking my character isn’t going to sway me. I’ve heard worse things about myself than “uncaring”, try harder.