Austria first country to make Covid vaccine mandatory

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SMF sharing insights on how not to be an asshole. I didn't think this was a comedy club.

Can we pretend, for a moment, that there are more than two kinds of people. I really don't understand the kind of English that this couple are using.
Obviously there is more then 2 kinds of people
 
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Obviously there's is more then 2 kinds of people
Usually, this is true, but insofar as covid is concerned, there are certainly two clear camps. Those who at least passively accept the idea of handling the virus with science and community efforts, and those who throw ignorant tissy-fits about "da guberment!" actually doing what it is supposed to do because of *insert excuse like "bodily autonomy before all else!" or "hitler would have totes hashtagged virus mandates!"*
 
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Usually, this is true, but insofar as covid is concerned, there are certainly two clear camps. Those who at least passively accept the idea of handling the virus with science and community efforts, and those who throw ignorant tissy-fits about "da guberment!" actually doing what it is supposed to do because of *insert excuse like "bodily autonomy before all else!" or "hitler would have totes hashtagged virus mandates!"*
I know exactly what he's trying to do. They always go what about people with medical issues that can't take vaccines. Which obviously we all know and why the fuck would they be part of the conversation when we talk about the two major camps. We're not stupid. We're obviously not talking about them. And obviously there is exceptions. The fact that I have to explain that I am aware of this is fuckin retarded. How long has this debate been on going? We didn't start debating this just yesterday.
 
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I know exactly what he's trying to do. They always go what about people with medical issues that can't take vaccines. Which obviously we all know and why the fuck would they be part of the conversation when we talk about the two major camps. We're not stupid. We're obviously not talking about them. And obviously there is exceptions. The fact that I have to explain that I am aware of this is fuckin retarded. How long has this debate been on going? We didn't start debating this just yesterday.
For what its worth, I was more or less posting this in reply to tabzer, but your post doesn't require backtracking pages. Apologies!
 

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For what its worth, I was more or less posting this in reply to tabzer, but your post doesn't require backtracking pages. Apologies!
This is what they do instead of paying attention to the overarching message they instead try to find a small hole they can try to exploit. A word or a sentence.

The main point is don't go bitching about not having your opinion to not be vaccinated respected if you yourself are not respecting others and walking around maskless and unvaccinated. Stay away from people if you choose to be unvacinated. Respect others opinions and concerns if you want yours of being unvacinated to be respected.

For whatever their reason to stay unvacinated because if they think pharmaceutical companies is manipulating people to get the vaccine for financial gain or the science behind it or whatever.
 
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Just stupid enough to have so many guns that there seem to be mass shootings every single week.
lmao. at least we're not being hunted down by our gov. yall are a bunch of defenseless sheep :rofl2:. but keep on ignoring the knives sprees and rental truck plowing in other countries.
 
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Obviously there is more then 2 kinds of people
Yep, and this is a thread about a government making vaccines mandatory. I fail to see how this is an exclusive "anti-vax vs pro-vax" issue.

In respect to your polarization, you present two decisions someone can make and then suggest that the two outcomes make people incompatible with each other. In my world, so far, the two do coexist and are aware of personal choices, because they are allowed to have them. We don't have CNN, MSNBC, or any of those kinds of polarizing media outlets/narratives, so that may have a lot of influence.

In respect to making valid concerns sound dumb as possible in attempt to gaslight people, you look as stupid as you try to make others appear.
 
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Just stupid enough to have so many guns that there seem to be mass shootings every single week.
And yet it seems to happen more in democrat controlled places with strict gun laws more than anywhere else, as if the criminals don't follow the law and the people are defenseless in defending themselves. Weird, huh? Probably a coincidence.
 
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And yet it seems to happen more in democrat controlled places with strict gun laws more than anywhere else, as if the criminals don't follow the law and the people are defenseless in defending themselves. Weird, huh? Probably a coincidence.
I really don't want to go off topic here so maybe start a new thread if you're interested in debating this, but I will say it's weird to me that you see the solution to a bad person having a gun is for a good person to also have a gun to cancel it out.
 

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I really don't want to go off topic here so maybe start a new thread if you're interested in debating this, but I will say it's weird to me that you see the solution to a bad person having a gun is for a good person to also have a gun to cancel it out.
Because if a good person has a gun and knows how to use it and shoots the bad person, then the number of bad persons will get scared and decrease.
 

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And yet it seems to happen more in democrat controlled places with strict gun laws more than anywhere else, as if the criminals don't follow the law and the people are defenseless in defending themselves. Weird, huh? Probably a coincidence.

Because if a good person has a gun and knows how to use it and shoots the bad person, then the number of bad persons will get scared and decrease.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-deaths-per-capita-by-state

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I am aware that the issue is a bit more complicated (there are a lot of suicides via gun deaths in rural areas), but this sort of talking point is extremely common with folks who are anti-vax, and is often completely rooted in ignorance or convenient lies. What a shock.
 
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And yet it seems to happen more in democrat controlled places with strict gun laws more than anywhere else, as if the criminals don't follow the law and the people are defenseless in defending themselves. Weird, huh? Probably a coincidence.
maybe because it does not matter if a state has sensible gun laws that require Comprehensive Background Checks. When you can go to 30min to a 1 hour across state lines and purchase unlimited Guns same day by a "private Gun Collector " at a trade show which just requires a hand shake and cash.
 
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Because if a good person has a gun and knows how to use it and shoots the bad person, then the number of bad persons will get scared and decrease.
I'm not convinced of that, plus you still have the slightly serious issue of people shooting each other. Much easier to take all the guns away. I also don't buy the excuse that there are too many of them so it's not worth trying.
 

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I'm not convinced of that, plus you still have the slightly serious issue of people shooting each other. Much easier to take all the guns away. I also don't buy the excuse that there are too many of them so it's not worth trying.
You'd be surprised how crime would go down if criminals know they'd get their ass blasted away if they try to rob a house. A few stupid ones may try, but most know if they try, good bye life. There might be quite a few shootings at first, and that's a maybe, but it'd go down fast instead of happening every single day like in Chicago for example. It's always worth trying to protect yourself and the people you care about. The second amendment is the only reason why we haven't become like most European countries and Australia, the government bullying the citizens and controlling them like in China, because the moment all bets are off, it'll be a huge gun fight. That's why they're trying to take the 2nd amendment so hard, and even if you don't agree, me and a whole lot of other people aren't gonna let that happen as long as we breathe. If you don't like guns, that's fine, but I do and I do not intent to give any of mine up for no reason whatsoever.
 
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https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/firearm_mortality/firearm.htm
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-deaths-per-capita-by-state

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I am aware that the issue is a bit more complicated (there are a lot of suicides via gun deaths in rural areas), but this sort of talking point is extremely common with folks who are anti-vax, and is often completely rooted in ignorance or convenient lies. What a shock.
Whenever you and others talk your nonsensical BS that's not true in the reality we're living in, this is all I hear really because that's what it basically is:
 

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Whenever you and others talk your nonsensical BS that's not true in the reality we're living in, this is all I hear really because that's what it basically is:
So come back with something with substance then we'll talk.
Not on topic, but @Dakitten literally provided evidence that more guns are correlated with more gun violence, lol.
 
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Not on topic, but @Dakitten literally provided evidence that more guns are correlated with more gun violence, lol.
That's not evidence, that's horseshit bias from liberal punks spreading more lies and bullshit. I know you like to believe in the fake science and believe its true and try to discredit people who see through the bullshit, but I don't play that way :)
 

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That's not evidence, that's horseshit bias from liberal punks spreading more lies and bullshit. I know you like to believe in the fake science and believe its true and try to discredit people who see through the bullshit, but I don't play that way :)
The sources provided were not biased, and one of them was the CDC.
 
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