Austria first country to make Covid vaccine mandatory

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No, no you're not.
If you have concerns about the speed the COVID vaccine was developed in, bloodclots or something like that then you're not an antivaxxer.

If you believe the vaccine makes your arm magnetic, makes you infertile or some other bullshit then you are an antivaxxer.
 
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If you have concerns about the speed the COVID vaccine was developed in, bloodclots or something like that then you're not an antivaxxer.

If you believe the vaccine makes your arm magnetic, makes you infertile or some other bullshit then you are an antivaxxer.
Correction: Those concerns make you anti-vax with a healthy dose of misinformation colouring your world view. Carry on~
 
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If you wanna look at it as a social contagion if mama is fat and the kid is fat likely the crap she is eating herself she's feeding to her kids. Since food is social, that's where a lot of the bonding happens, the two or more people will be eating the same meals or same place.
…we just had that conversation.
 
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If you have concerns about the speed the COVID vaccine was developed in, bloodclots or something like that then you're not an antivaxxer.
It's more general than that. If you say anything that doesn't fit a particular strict narrative then you will be labelled a term that is used to easily dismiss you. It's clear from the discussion here how much reluctance there is to acknowledge any sort of nuance.

Also, I was amused that I'm now not the only one that brought up the Sith analogy.

Edit: I also feel sorry for @Alexander1970 as this topic was meant to be about what was happening in Austria and has become yet another general discussion thread.
 

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Also, I was amused that I'm now not the only one that brought up the Sith analogy.
Indeed lol. To me, it’s a bizarre us versus them scenario that should never be a thing as far as medicine is concerned. What people do with their own bodies and for what reason is their business, and that’s that. People can criticise those choices, which is entirely fair, but the group mentality around the issue is odd to me.
 
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It's more general than that. If you say anything that doesn't fit a particular strict narrative then you will be labelled a term that is used to easily dismiss you. It's clear from the discussion here how much reluctance there is to acknowledge any sort of nuance.

Also, I was amused that I'm now not the only one that brought up the Sith analogy.

Edit: I also feel sorry for @Alexander1970 as this topic was meant to be about what was happening in Austria and has become yet another general discussion thread.

I brought up the sith analogy too. I think I was the first one. There was a guy in this thread named @sith. But he was against mandates. So I guess that makes him a sith to the vaccinated.
 

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It's more general than that. If you say anything that doesn't fit a particular strict narrative then you will be labelled a term that is used to easily dismiss you.
Right, which is why if you are a decent human being nowadays you're called liberal left, snowflake, or woke.

The irony is that it's the same people complaining about their views not being respected that have zero respect for anyone elses views. Karma is a bitch.
 

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Right, which is why if you are a decent human being nowadays you're called liberal left, snowflake, or woke.

The irony is that it's the same people complaining about their views not being respected that have zero respect for anyone elses views. Karma is a bitch.
Oh man, the irony of it all here....
 
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Imagine referring to yourself as "woke" unironically. It's one thing to attempt to do good, but to want to wear the label of "good" in spite of others really drives the soapbox home.
 
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Right, which is why if you are a decent human being nowadays you're called liberal left, snowflake, or woke.

The irony is that it's the same people complaining about their views not being respected that have zero respect for anyone elses views. Karma is a bitch.
It's not irony, it's just something that works both ways. It's just a tool people have developed to "win" arguments rather than honestly discuss things.
 
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Right, which is why if you are a decent human being nowadays you're called liberal left, snowflake, or woke.

The irony is that it's the same people complaining about their views not being respected that have zero respect for anyone elses views. Karma is a bitch.
So you have two groups of people not respecting each other's views.

Maybe they don't respect your views as a counter because you don't respect theirs. That's not karma, thats a counter fight.



Let's be real. If they see people walking around unvacinated with higher risk at infecting other people and their goal is to reduce risk then you have no respect for the lefts views either. And you wonder why they are on the offensive not respecting your views.


There's also a nuance of respecting your choice to not get vaccinated for whatever reason. But not respecting unvaccinated people in public places risking infecting others. And everytime you fight for your right to be in public places unvaccinated. You are also not respecting the lefts views. And you expect them to respect yours? You are dreaming.
 

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While there is undoubtedly a question of individual liberty versus a benefit for the greater good, I think this is ultimately for the best.

We've had more than a few countries achieve a 90%+ double dose vaccination rate, and while cases have continued to rise, hospitalisations and have been significantly less prevalent. I hope that this trend continues and we can ride out COVID and all its variants.
 
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So you have two groups of people not respecting each other's views.

Maybe they don't respect your views as a counter because you don't respect theirs. That's not karma, thats a counter fight.
It is karma, because the whole "woke" shit has been going on long before covid. The people banging on about magnetism and 5g were arseholes before covid, being an arsehole is what draws you to being an anti vaxxer.

So maybe this is the counter fight, but you might not be on the right side. Like when the nazi's thought they were the good guys. That isn't to say the ally's didn't make some mistakes while fighting the nazi's of course.

I'm not sure how I feel about mandatory vaccinations, they aren't being pushed on me here and I willingly was vaccinated. If I was in a job that made vaccination necessary or I was being told I couldn't go to certain public areas without being vaccinated, then I think I'd do the decent thing and accept that my choice was not more important than the choice of the people around me. That isn't what an arsehole would do.
 
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It is karma, because the whole "woke" shit has been going on long before covid. The people banging on about magnetism and 5g were arseholes before covid, being an arsehole is what draws you to being an anti vaxxer.

So maybe this is the counter fight, but you might not be on the right side. Like when the nazi's thought they were the good guys. That isn't to say the ally's didn't make some mistakes while fighting the nazi's of course.

I'm not sure how I feel about mandatory vaccinations, they aren't being pushed on me here and I willingly was vaccinated. If I was in a job that made vaccination necessary or I was being told I couldn't go to certain public areas without being vaccinated, then I think I'd do the decent thing and accept that my choice was not more important than the choice of the people around me. That isn't what an arsehole would do.
Let's just take out the whole woke situation for a sec and look at the behaviors between the 2 groups.


Even without mandates you will still enforce mandate like conditions onto yourself if you were to respect others opinions. A common courtesy if someone is not vaccinated is to stay the hell away from other people. Stay the hell away from public places like schools, grocery stores and so on. Order grocery delivery online. Wear mask, social distance when you happen to be in a public place.

If they are not vaccinated then don't bitch how the left isn't respecting your opinions when you are not willing to extend that same respect onto others and walking around willy nilly in public places when they know full well how vaccinated people feel about unvaxed in public places and the risk of infection.

These people expect to have their opinions respected but when it comes to others opinions they say fuck you. This is hypocritical. And really who's the asshole in this situation.

When someone's opinion is not respected it makes them go to drastic measures to have it respected by others who contantly shit on you and don't give a fuck about you or your concerns or your opinions while at the same time demanding their views to be respected by you, and gov mandates is one of them. They are being pushed into a corner and become desperate. Desperate people go to ridiculous lengths.

For me I am not for gov mandates. I don't like gov involved in this.
 
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SMF sharing insights on how not to be an asshole. I didn't think this was a comedy club.

Can we pretend, for a moment, that there are more than two kinds of people. I really don't understand the kind of English that this couple are using.
 
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