Austria first country to make Covid vaccine mandatory

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That's the point I'm making until it's in other forms that's the only way I see it calming down and like I said not just having a shot whenever your government tells you to.
I don't think it being available in other forms will stop gov mandates if that were to happen. You will still need to show that you've been prescribed by a doctor as proof you are taking pills. Mandates will still be in place.

The pill is only after you get covid to treat it. There is no pill that acts as protection against it.

And if there was one available, how long would we have to take the pill? The pill would only last so long in the body before it dissolves completely. Would a dosage only last 24 hours? Would it be daily dosage you have to take?

If I was a company trying to rip people off and make as much money as possible. I would go for the pill option over the needle option as I can make more profit off of that.
 
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I don't think it being available in other forms will stop gov mandates if that we're to happen. You will still need to show that you've been prescribed by a doctor as proof you are taking pills. Mandates will still be in place.

The pill is only after you get covid to treat it. There is no pill that acts as protection against it.

And if there was one available, how long would we have to take the pill? The pill would only last so long in the body before it dissolves completely. Would a dosage only last 24 hours? Would it be daily dosage you have to take?

If I was a company trying to rip people off and make as much money as possible. I would go for the pill option over the needle option as I can make more profit off of that.
Well forgive me for living in a world where I hope to one day be able to hear a doctor say oh it's just covid you can buy this over the counter and it'll be cured within a few days. You don't need to keep seeing us over it.
 

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I do think people should be able to be naked wherever they want. Being able to do whatever you want is another point I'm not trying to focus on.

I think being compelled to provide your vaccine status is just invasive and opens up a bigger can of worms in a supposed attempt of closing the can of worms that's already loosed. Your "solution" is tyranny disguised as benevolence.



I did. There was some rationalization, based on things that are subjective to scientific advancement/capability/classifications. All in all, too much pearl clutching and blindness to the point being made. We shouldn't wait until a new type of holocaust happens before we say it's sensitively okay to notice the patterns and trends currently observable of history. That's a poor excuse to feigning ignorance. You'd sooner march blind into a preventable dystopia--because it's insensitive to attempt to critique our ways based on something that had already happened.
If you think people should be able to do whatever they want unvaccinated, and whatever they want naked, then I guess you believe a woman should have access to legal abortion.

Being asked to provide your vaccination status isn't an invasion of privacy when you can turn around, go home, and not provide proof of vaccination. Don't want to provide proof of vaccination to fly a plane? Don't fly a plane. The same goes for all of the other documentation you have to provide in the name of safety to fly on a plane.

It isn't pearl-clutching to rightfully condemn the trivialization of the Holocaust.
 
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Huh? Why should a harmless drug be prescription required? Psychotic such as Xanax sure prescribe them but what's the harm in something that helps cure the common cold that's been around since the 50s need a prescription for? Let's put it this way if you're constipated and haven't shit in a few days would you rather buy a dollar laxative known it to work or run to your doctor saying you haven't been able to shit for a week.

Why are we cool with needles and not something you could just buy thats known to work?
There's a lot to unpack here, and I might not hit everything.

I explained why Tylenol should require a prescription. It isn't harmless. Not all drugs are the same. Some should require prescriptions, and some should not.

It sounds to me like you're just afraid of needles. They don't make things less safe or less effective. The vaccines are also known to work, and they're a better defense against the disease than a treatment after the fact. Vaccines also help curb the spread of infection, while treatments after infection do not.
 
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There's a lot to unpack here, and I might not hit everything.

I explained why Tylenol should require a prescription. It isn't harmless. Not all drugs are the same. Some should require prescriptions, and some should not.

It sounds to me like you're just afraid of needles. They don't make things less safe or less effective. The vaccines are also known to work, and they're a better defense against the disease than a treatment after the fact. Vaccines also help curb the spread of infection, while treatments after infection do not.
Lmao I'm afraid of needles that's why I got my flu shot a couple of months ago.
 

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Well forgive me for living in a world where I hope to one day be able to hear a doctor say oh it's just covid you can buy this over the counter and it'll be cured within a few days. You don't need to keep seeing us over it.
We will probably one day see a world where a COVID diagnosis is similar to a flu diagnosis. However, I'm not sure why you're so focused on a prescription vs. over the counter, particularly when you're already at the doctor's office in this example.
 

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Well forgive me for living in a world where I hope to one day be able to hear a doctor say oh it's just covid you can buy this over the counter and it'll be cured within a few days. You don't need to keep seeing us over it.
There are pills the treat the flu. But the best option handling this virus is still the vaccine and by prevention. I don't think a pill that cures covid would be available.
 
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There are pills the treat the flu. But the best option at handling this virus is still by prevention from the vaccine. I don't a pill that cures covid would be available.
A pill that's >90% effective against COVID-19 hospitalization/death has been produced and will eventually be released. However, it generally works only if taken soon after a diagnosis or soon after developing mild symptoms. It isn't a substitute for vaccination, the best defense against the virus, and it doesn't prevent the spread of infection.
 

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It's scientific improvements I want a world where hospitals aren't so over ran, just this week my pharmacy was having issues and hold times getting me my prescriptions because they were so overran with boosters and what not.

If we have it controlled enough to where we could just buy something for it things would go back to normal it may not happen tomorrow but that's because everyone is so focused on a shot other than other forms of treatment for covid.
 

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It's scientific improvements I want a world where hospitals aren't so over ran, just this week my pharmacy was having issues and hold times getting me my prescriptions because they were so overran with boosters and what not.

If we have it controlled enough to where we could just buy something for it things would go back to normal it may not happen tomorrow but that's because everyone is so focused on a shot other than other forms of treatment for covid.
It's going to take as many people as possible getting vaccinated to return things to relative normality.

I hope you aren't an anti-vaxxer, because it would be really hypocritical for someone against the scientific advancement of COVID-19 vaccines to plead for scientific advancements.
 

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A pill that's >90% effective against COVID-19 hospitalization/death has been produced and will eventually be released. However, it generally works only if taken soon after a diagnosis or soon after developing mild symptoms. It isn't a substitute for vaccination, the best defense against the virus, and it doesn't prevent the spread of infection.
The pill would be excellent in combination with the vaccine.
 
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It's going to take as many people as possible getting vaccinated to return things to relative normality.

I hope you aren't an anti-vaxxer, because it would be really hypocritical for someone against the scientific advancement of COVID-19 vaccines to plead for scientific advancements.
Why yes it would be so heartbroken to hear people want other options than just a shot.
 

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"I just don't trust putting harmful things into my body like vaccines and the anti-COVID pill. That's why I'm ingesting horse dewormer in my Borax bath."
I obviously trust harmful things inside my body or I would've never spent time around my ex.
 

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If you think people should be able to do whatever they want unvaccinated, and whatever they want naked, then I guess you believe a woman should have access to legal abortion.

You can guess.

Being asked to provide your vaccination status isn't an invasion of privacy when you can turn around, go home, and not provide proof of vaccination.

How many STDs have you had in your lifetime? How many times have you been to the hospital and prescribed medication. How reliant are you on the medical institutions? How sick are you?

It isn't pearl-clutching to rightfully condemn the trivialization of the Holocaust.

It wasn't rightful condemnation nor trivialization. It was pearl clutching at its finest. You don't like looking like the missing link between an everyday person and a nazi, so you you feign personal offense over something that offended history.
 
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"I just don't trust putting harmful things into my body like vaccines and the anti-COVID pill. That's why I'm ingesting horse dewormer in my Borax bath."
In 2015, the Nobel Committee for Physiology or Medicine, in its only award for treatments of infectious diseases since six decades prior, honoured the discovery of ivermectin (IVM), a multifaceted drug deployed against some of the world's most devastating tropical diseases. Since March 2020, when IVM was first used against a new global scourge, COVID-19, more than 20 randomized clinical trials (RCTs) have tracked such inpatient and outpatient treatments. Six of seven meta-analyses of IVM treatment RCTs reporting in 2021 found notable reductions in COVID-19 fatalities, with a mean 31% relative risk of mortality vs. controls. During mass IVM treatments in Peru, excess deaths fell by a mean of 74% over 30 days in its ten states with the most extensive treatments. Reductions in deaths correlated with the extent of IVM distributions in all 25 states with p < 0.002. Sharp reductions in morbidity using IVM were also observed in two animal models, of SARS-CoV-2 and a related betacoronavirus. The indicated biological mechanism of IVM, competitive binding with SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, is likely non-epitope specific, possibly yielding full efficacy against emerging viral mutant strains.
Ivermevtin Nobel prize winner 2015 for HUMANS, educate your self you dumb fuck.
 
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