Why? How is limiting access useful? What do I have to prove and why do I have to prove myself? Why can't I just develop and have fun? Who is this hurting? What does exploit development have to do with system development?
Why create walls and limit knowledge and sharing?
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If stuff is open you can't leak or steal it
That's the benefit Really I do not get the mentality. What's with the egos ... ? More people have access, more activity and fun, more open source, faster development, better.
Business ethicialty and illegality, and the potential to disrupt good intentions.
The former, we know everything about it, the morality behind it, and the consequences, if caught. (However rare it may practically be.)
The latter is proven to be the most dangerous of them all compared to the former, potentially harmful to the ecosystem. Disruptions include, but not limited to, cheating and hacking online games; ruining other players' experiences. (See PUBG online matchmaking criticisms), DDoS exploiting on Nintendo servers; stealing private information and bank accounts (See Sony hack), and most importantly, disrupt game developers' motivation to put forth new games on the new system (See PS Vita and the downfall of 1st/3rd party support).
Yeah, it's just hearsay. Ignore me if you knew all of this.
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They create walls to prevent users accessing the tools and exploits that aren't fully developed and safe. It's to prevent idiots from playing with things they shouldn't be playing with and then blasting the devs as if it's their fault.
If you can't get past the wall you likely shouldn't be playing with it.
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@SciresM Then based on your update, if we are on FW lower than 4.1 (e.g. 3.0.0) are we fine going to the former FW (through game cart update) or still advised to stay on that FW. I have a BotW 002 cartridge and would be nice to play the game and get access to CFW on summer.
Btw, even if you don't reply (sry for calling you out), massive thanks for your work. I take my hat off.
Btw, even if you don't reply (sry for calling you out), massive thanks for your work. I take my hat off.
This all will happen either way thou. It's not an argument to prevent access now and grant it in the summer. Same effect?
I get the argument that you don't want people to walk around with a loaded gun if they don't know how to handle guns. However, there are issues in the logic:
- In the summer, people will start forking and tempering the CFW. They may also brick or brick others. No difference.
- That you shouldn't tinker with something because you don't know it and may hurt yourself is a very bad example. In fact you should. This is essential ape-like learning. Try, fail, adapt, learn, retry, combine knowledge. Degrading somebody to a consumer to protect them means to limit people from growing. Keeping them as pets or not-growing-up children. Second class citizens.
- IMO you should warn about the dangers and try to mitigate them by releasing a hardware bootrom de-bricker mod.
- Also, there is a difference between promoting something and releasing it
Or that I disagree with the model entirely
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Great news can’t wait for PS4 emulator on my Switch
Yay! Finally a reason to actually get a switch! Now to wait for a fork that disables sig checks and lets us pirate the fuck out of the switch last gen ports library <3
This all will happen either way thou. It's not an argument to prevent access now and grant it in the summer. Same effect?
I get the argument that you don't want people to walk around with a loaded gun if they don't know how to handle guns. However, there are issues in the logic:
- In the summer, people will start forking and tempering the CFW. They may also brick. No difference.
- That you shouldn't tinker with something because you don't know it and may hurt yourself is a very bad example. In fact you should. This is essential ape-like learning. Try, fail, adapt, learn, retry, combine knowledge. Degrading somebody to a consumer to protect them means to limit people from growing. Keeping them as pets or children. Second class citizens.
- IMO you should warn about the dangers and try to mitigate them by releasing a hardware bootrom de-bricker mod.
Or that I disagree with the model entirely
If you only need to learn, then you can wait until it goes public. You don't need to be doing it along side the active development to learn. So that point is pretty mute.
And in fact I would say taking the completed tools and viewing sources and "deconstructing" them is a much better way to learn than just firing at random with incomplete and inconsistent exploits hoping you figure it out.
And there is a difference between forking a completed project, modifying it, and then bricking versus devs releasing incomplete tools and exploits and people bricking with those. The former would be entirely the user's fault, the later could fall on the dev for making public tools that aren't ready for public.
Well, Atmosphere is open source and they will probably do the same for fusée gelée (coldboot)
Also,SciresM documented jamais vu pretty well.
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I said this before. Learning is about community and momentum, not stale examples. If it was up to that I and everybody else could just study the linux or andoid stack, much easier. But being there live is the motivation.
Sorry but we get exploits released and people tinkering without a finished product everywhere. PS4 landed a new exploit every week for a while without so much as a package loader. In fact they where developed later by others. And you could indeed brick with these exploits.
I don't see it. If you play with code, you may brick.
good news, but I'm abit salty shelling out 65$ on pokken just to update from 2.x to 3.0.0 hmmm , getting the feeling it was unnecessary.
and I'm probably not going to be the only one feeling this way.
edit: but he States that those under 4.1.0 shouldn't update, as it will make the cfw less reliable/convenient..?
anyways this is still good stuff, we getting cfw this year that's real good stuff.
and I'm probably not going to be the only one feeling this way.
edit: but he States that those under 4.1.0 shouldn't update, as it will make the cfw less reliable/convenient..?
anyways this is still good stuff, we getting cfw this year that's real good stuff.
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