Atmosphère 0.9.0 released, introduces emuMMC support

RattletraPM Jun 16, 2019.

  1. Ev1l0rd

    Ev1l0rd (⌐◥▶◀◤) Developer - noirscape

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    Alright, I'll bite for once. I don't hate SX OS because it's paid. I don't give a damn about that. If you make something and you think it's worth selling, put a price on it. That's on you, not on me and I'm not the one trying to tell you that you should work for free.

    I hate SX OS because it actively steals code from FOSS projects (primarily Atmosphere) without following the proper licenses for FOSS (this is a flat out fact you can't deny. People have decrypted and poked at the decompiled source code and found that it's taking a lot of FOSS licenses) and a lot of the things it does on it's own are often done incompetently which cause weird bugs that people wouldn't be getting if they just used the FOSS projects they steal code from or use similar implementations.

    Maybe you don't care about copyright or FOSS, but some people do and that causes a lashing out from people who do care about the scene itself and the ability to make cool things. Stealing FOSS code without following the license is a slap in the face of developers as their work and credit is stripped from the product itself, just so that an illegal business can make money. Tolerating that behavior drives developers who might want to make cool stuff away from the scene as they cannot rely on the fact that somebody will not steal their code.

    Capiche?
     
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  2. THYPLEX

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    So finally i can use an emunand, and in doing so , avoiding the ban of my official nand ?
     
  3. bjaxx87

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    Please correct me if I'm wrong, but emuMMC won't be much of help to use my hacked Switch online, right?

    I have a 100% clean NAND backup but restoring it would get me back to FW v4.1.0.

    So to play online I'd be forced to update my SysNAND either manually using ChoiDujourNX (which means it won't be clean anymore and that there's a high risk of ban) or legally (which means fuses will be burnt and... the Switch will be patched unhackable?).

    So how exactly should I be able to play online using my clean NAND backup?
     
  4. nikeymikey

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    The whole TX steals code thing is a moot point, people who use SX use it mainly for piracy so a bit of stolen code means squat. And as it goes I bet most Atmos users also have piracy as their main use for it so again how many of them actually care about a few lines of text being stolen. I for one don’t give two shits

    In fact I think it’s funny that people argue over some stolen text in a forum where piracy is rife and has been for at least the last 4 or 5 Nintendo systems, it just hides under the moniker of “homebrew”.
    I know for a fact that GBAtemp has always been my first port of call for enabling “homebrew” on any of my Nintendo systems :lol:
     
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    From my understanding, EmuMMC (or EmuNAND, take your pick) is what you use to play run and play your backups/homebrew offline while retaining a clean NAND internally that can play cartridges/purchased content online.

    Again, from my understanding, if you have an iPatched unit, updating your sysNAND to the latest version renders it unhackable. However, if you have one that is not patched, then you can "safely" keep your sysNAND on the latest version while having the rest of your homebrew locked up tight in the emuNAND, running whatever version you want.
     
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  6. GuitarXxX

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    I think you are going to restore your NAND backup and update to the latest version of Switch OS (8.0.1 i think).
    But I think in this process we are going to lose something, like the savegames of our games, because they are on the Atmosphere nand.
     
  7. bjaxx87

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    Yeah, I get that. But how can you use your clean NAND without updating it? I don't think there's a "safe" method to legally update your SysNAND without burning fuses.
     
  8. m4xw

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    Hope ya'all have fun ;)
     
  9. eyeliner

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    I have my clean Nand backup, with boot0 and boot1. Can I merge the files and then just use etcher to make a partition and test, or is there something more involved missing?
     
  10. pcwizard7

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    how do i setup the ini file for multiple emunands?
     
  11. Josshy0125

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    So your only argument is "stolen code", when you're using atmosphere to steal games? Nice logic. The amount of childish bias on this board is nuts!

    Not to mention, Gateway apparently had "stolen code" too. This keeps happening. I dont think its farfetched to say that dev's probably sell their code to tx, or are even part of tx. I'd say that's highly likely with how often code gets "stolen". And of course they wouldn't admit it because then they'd get into legal trouble. Although that's all conjecture at this point.

    Your argument is really weak, and your hate is unjustified. Especially due to the fact that you use atmosphere to pirate games, as well. You cant bash one company for something, if you're doing that exact same thing. That's double standard.

    The sx hate here is ridiculous, and the amount of circle-jerking fanboys here is insane...

    Open up your mind and stop hating something just to hate it. You and your bandwagon biased fanboys are horribly obnoxious.

    If you like atmos fine. But having options is a good thing. Just let everyone enjoy what they want.
     
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  12. almmiron

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    I'm a common user and I don't play any games online. Maybe if I decide to play online games, i'm gonna try this emummc. But, i'm updating atmosphere anyways. This thing will be the sxos killer, indeed. Like 3ds-gateway got killed
     
  13. pcwizard7

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    atmos will never add hdd support since you can't load nsp only install to the sd card and that's something sxos will always so lets drop it plz
     
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    Forgive me if I'm wrong, but this is all, again, from my understanding; I don't have experience doing this. You can use memloader.bin to open up your sysNAND, back it up, update it, then reupload the copied backup onto your Switch. From there, just run hekate as normal and always boot into stock firmware. As long as you always boot from hekate and never boot using the standard boot module (without AutoRCM or anything), your fuses shouldn't ever burn, and you can still downgrade.
     
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    I'll respond this one time (I usually just report the off-topic posts)...this website is a joke sometimes. I have reported several of these idiots to the moderators, and nothing has been done about it, except one post being removed. I don't care if Team-Xecuter fanboys/shills want to circle-jerk with each other about how superior SX OS is to Atmosphere (odd, since it uses/steals Atmosphere code), but it shouldn't be allowed in this thread, since it is off-topic. They can go do it in a different thread. And before anyone says anything, SX OS uses Atmosphere code, so discussion of Atmosphere in their threads is, sadly, not off-topic. I also don't believe that known thieves who once included brick code in their "software" deserve the same considerations, anyway, but that's just my opinion.

    I always find it amusing that SX OS fanboys often resort to this "they are just jealous because they can't afford it" nonsense, when the majority of its userbase uses it to steal games, so they don't have to pay for them.

    And no, I actually buy the games that I want, and I have no interest in using Atmosphere for piracy purposes.

    I've noticed that Team-Xecuter fanboys like to use the term "hate" a lot. Like there is anything wrong with "hating" Team-Xecuter's garbage "product"...

    By the way, you need to get over yourself. Nobody on this site cares if you consider their opinion credible or not, or whether or not you consider them to be trolls.
     
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  16. toxic9

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    SXOS have "this" incredible feature.. Atmos have "that" incredible feature..
    There will always be an advantage over the other... the most important imo, is being free. So, SX lost the fight from the beginning.

    I think we should not forget that there are still important thins to work on.
    Like to make CFW work on all Switch models, and also become permanent.
     
  17. nikeymikey

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    :lol: Just LOL, Atmos is as much a piracy tool as any other CFW on any other system. Stolen code is a moot point when most users using wither Switch CFW are using it to play STOLEN games. I use both Atmos and SX for their differnet reasons but mainly SX due to being able to play a large library of games from USB hdd without any installing.

    We always used to pay for modchips in years gone by, why does it have to be free nowadays?

    You know all those roms you use on your beloved homebrew Emulators, they were mostly ripped years ago using PAID FOR techniques such as cartridge copiers or modchips.
    Nowadays all you twats want everything for free, i mean for fucks sake are free games not enough?? Are you that tight that you can only pay for the console and then never spend another penny on anything for it??

    Apologies for the language but geeeeeez, some people are so self entitled.
     
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    Except it doesn't come preloaded with the relevant patches.

    That mere fact makes this statement of yours an utter joke as it is made clear by that that the intent is not to enable piracy.

    Because times fucking change. Welcome to the fucking present where your old concept of "we have to buy a flashcard or solder a modchip" is the past tense since consoles are ran on actual OSes now which can contain bugs we can exploit.

    Secondly, those modchips actually cost materials to manufacture. Exploiting systems these days doesn't take materials, it just takes some time and someone dedicated to finding bugs. It's an entirely different situation.

    Also, it's funny that your lot doesn't seem to understand the sheer irony of paying so you can play free games. But I digress.
     
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  20. nikeymikey

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    I really hit a nerve with you didn't i??

    1st.. It takes a matter of seconds to find a build of Atmos ready to go fully piracy enabled. I stand by what i said because im willing to bet the majority of Atmos users are using a piracy enabled version for playing pirated games :)

    2ns.. I obviously dont mind things being free, my point was why is the most important thing that they are free? That what the guy i was replying to said!!

    Tbh i miss the old days as having to actually open your console and do a bit of soldering etc required a little patience and skill and kept away most of the self entitled noobs and idiots because it was too difficult for them. And yes i see you irony but hey i paid less than the price of one game for SX and i have access to every game available for hat one payment. Not a bad deal at all in my book and if Atmos had been first i probably wouldn't have bothered with SX. It wasnt, so i did and i dont regret it :lol:
     
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  21. Josshy0125

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    What? When did I ever say, "They are jealous because they can't afford it"? That comment is so ridiculous; as ridiculous and silly and immature as your arguments, and holds no weight in the same vein of things. That just proves to me how immature you are regarding this situation, mate. And also, I'm not an SX fanboy. I prefer SX, but as I stated, I use both. I'm talking against the silly arguments that very biased atmos users tend to spout.

    Take a look at what you've just posted, and look how you LITERALLY posted nothing. No points, just "They use the term 'hate' so they're wrong herrrr". You literally made ZERO points, which add ANYTHING to your argument. You just came at it , 100% from a place of bias an childishness.

    You do realize that all of your "points" are absolute garbage and hold no weight...? If you're going to call SX users "fanboys" or "trolls", then actually try backing up your points with facts. You've failed to do this, and again, like the others here, you've joined the group of "salty biased troll whos' just spouting hate just to hate". You have no points toward your argument, and yet, the ones who support SX have actually given solid points.

    You look really stupid. I'd suggest you stop arguing and trying to act as though you're in the right, when you can't even argue your point with logic and maturity. Thanks.

    Just let everyone use what cfw they want, and stop being so damn stupid about it. You're acting incredibly childish with bias. If you like atmos, use atmos. I'll continue using SX, primarily. But if you're going to try and argue, at LEAST do so with ACTUAL facts and ACTUAL points rather than "SX SUCKS HeRRRRP" because it doesn't. It literally does everything that Atmos can do AND MORE. You're literally getting salty and are just arguing due to your own immature bias. That's on YOU. And YOU are part of the problem on this forum. YOU are a toxic member with your bias-fueled arguments, mate. YOU are what's wrong with this forum. You bring fights, in an attempt to bring hate on something by listing points that aren't actually even "points". You might not like what SX "stands for", in some sense, but you cannot deny that it still has actual reason to be used, and that there are a LOT of people who actually prefer it to atmos. Don't let your immaturity and bias get in the way.


    But I really don't have the energy to argue with someone who can't even argue rationally, when they know they're in the wrong. Your bias is consuming your argument, and your argument holds no weight. You're not very smart and you're not worth my time. Done.

    Now unless you drop the bias, I don't want to hear any more about this from you. It's clear you simply cannot argue, and are just arguing due to your bias, with no real points to your claim. Now let's get back on topic and stop spouting this daft stupidity.
     
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