Are there currently any applications to search specific values in memory addresses?

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  1. RemixDeluxe
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    Something like TCP Gecko on Wii U but for 3DS. I was interested in finding my own stuff to edit values in games.
     


  2. Duo8

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  3. cearp

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    gateway is the best tool at the moment for this, no?
    actually, editing the title id of stuff that gw doesn't let us use cheats with (for example, the camera) - i guess we could memory edit the camera too :)
     
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    Does NTR allow you to search values and make custom codes? Maybe it does and I'm not aware.

    But do I need to own a Gateway? I dont have one.
     
  5. Duo8

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    I do remember being able to view, search and edit memory.
    Not sure what "make custom codes" means.
     
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    yeah you need to have a gw. (naturally, why would gw let you not? :D)
     
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    Yes memory research with Gateway is the better thing (fast, easy...)
    Yes with the NTR debugger, but it can take long to search a value/perform a memory dump.

    If you want to make cheat code, the better choice is Gateway
     
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    I'm fine not making cheat codes, just being able to search for values and poking would be enough for me.

    Is this what I want to use?

    https://gbatemp.net/threads/release...st-public-real-time-debugger-for-n3ds.384858/
     
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    i don't think you can search for values in ntr, i think you have to dump the memory and search that.
    gw has it much easier, you can actually search (on the 3ds) plus the ram is dumped i think if you want to analyze on the computer?
    i'm just telling you the best tool for the job.
    but sure you can just dump memory, transfer, search on computer, and poke in ntr, but i guess it will get boring fast.
     
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    Oh well thank you anyways.
     
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    if it's possible to video stream, i guess it's possible for something like ntr to do memory editing, right? shame cell9 stopped.

    you say via spider is the fastest and accurate, you are comparing to gw? or this is just some method you recommend if you don't have gw?
     
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    I remember the Supercard DStwo had some sort of way to search values within the ram of the game you were playing. Granted that took hardware not on the system itself but I was hoping something existed for 3DS by now, I'll work with what I got.
     
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    Someone did a tool for ntr which allow you to search a value in the memory.

    It's a sort of a modded debugger for searching values. Like cheat engine debugger.

    Link.

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    But for me the fastest way (beside GW), is to do a dump with the console then transfert the dump with FTP. and search inside this dump with CE / IDA.

    To dump locally you have two ways:
    - My process dumper but it allow only one dump at a time as it'll overwrite the previous one
    - The process dumper include in NTR: with it you can dump a specific region multiple time as it'll increment the name of the dump.
     
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    GW take less than 1 minute :P
     
  15. RemixDeluxe
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    I'll take the free method that takes 3-5 minutes than the $80 method that takes 1 minute.

    Just putting things in perspective.
     
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    The spider is patched on the lasted firmware, you need to install the cia from the right browser version.
     
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    Spider is shit. It only writes once to the RAM so only works with simple stuff like coin modifier.
     
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    But spider is physical addresses while NTR/Gateway use virtual, so they're not interchangeable. What is the use of finding an address if you don't want to do anything with it
     
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    ... I heard that doesn't work. I'll test it with some of my old Spider codes.
     
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    Well, i just tested it.

    MK7 First Place hack (Spider) + 14000000:
    166DCBB0 00000001
    16D356C4 00000001
    16D8C4E0 00000001
    16EFB858 00000001
    16EFB85C 00000001

    MK7 First Place Hack (Gateway):
    166DBC6D 00000001
    166DCBB0 00000001
    16D356C4 00000001
    16D8C820 00000001
    16EFBBD8 00000001
    16EFBBDC 00000001
    16F3B34C 00000001

    Both of these were made, not "converted" and tested to work.

    I see one address that is the same. Everything else is different, so I would say your method isn't reliable, but it could work on certain cases.

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    Also, quoted from Gateway:
    In my opinion, adding 14000000 is pretty straightforward, so they're saying that won't work