Anyone else giving up on Maxconsole?

Discussion in 'Wii - Hacking' started by Warm Woolly Shee, Feb 3, 2007.

Feb 3, 2007
  1. Warm Woolly Shee
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    Please note I am not speaking for Gbatemp, Wiili, dcemu or any other site. If you want to copy this post feel free.

    I ignored people who said "Maxconsole is being paid off, they're lying!" I gave Maxconsole the benefit of the doubt for the last few weeks, I just thought they were being a bit sensationalist. But after today, when I saw their latest blatant advertisement disguised as news, I put it all together:

    (keep in mind the Wiinja and Cyclowiz have announced nearly identical features, but the modchip "war" isn't what this is about. I don't care as I won't be buying either Wiinja, Cyclowiz, Wiikey or any other chip for a few more months. This is about Maxconsole and their yellow journalism.)

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    #1 - Maxconsole was the first site to post news of the Cyclowiz.


    http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=13934

    Take note of their first sentence in the post,

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    #2 - A news item is posted bashing the Wiinja for not being "upgradeable"

    http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=13918


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    #3 - The glowing review of the non-upgradeable Cyclowiz days before it's released:


    http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=13974

    Maxconsole doesn't even mention that the Cyclowiz isn't "upgradeable", not once, not even under "cons", while they panned the Wiinja just days earlier for the same thing.

    Here are some choice quotes from the review:

    - Referring to gamecube audio streaming. Wiinja has confirmed that their chip will play GC audio as well - every chip will. There is no "gc audio" fix because there is no "gc audio" problem - the wii fixes that, not a drive chip. This is a feature dreamed up by Maxconsole to sell Cyclowiz.

    Unless you want to play games from Japan, run a homebrew operating system, etc. Must be a boring dream.

    Wow, a winner before you even try the other modchips? You are omniscient!

    Operators are standing by! Call now and receive this free neon calculator!


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    Wiikey, an upgradeable chip from a respected company with good features is announced on every big site.

    #4 - Watch how Maxconsole tries to play the Wiikey down, and take note of the use of their words like "rumor" and "claim", it's almost funny:


    http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=14034

    Maxconsole makes no mention that the ship date is February 7th, even though it's clearly listed at: http://www.wiikey.cn/
    Instead, they lie to their readers by suggesting that the chip is "far away from production"

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    #5 - The Wiikey news is quickly drowned by a flood of pointless news posts, including this gem for Cyclowiz:

    http://www.maxconsole.net/?mode=news&newsid=14042

    Why no news about the Wiinja shipping? Why no news on the date the Wiikey ships?

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    Conclusion: When reading a Maxconsole review for Wii chips, take them with a grain of salt - like you would an advertisement. While you're at it, do the same for their PS2, 360, and DS reviews as well, since you don't know who else has paid them off. All we know is that Maxconsole can be bought, and their price must be pretty low considering Team Cyclops could afford it.
     


  2. TheVirus

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    I do like MC for their constant news spouts, but the bias is incredibly annoying. Ad companies should have ZERO influence on how a company operates, but it seems money reigns supreme over at MC. I'd read the news post and then read the replies to get the corrected info.

    MC is going downhill fast.
     
  3. Takrin

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    i did like maxconsole also for their news and posted there but somewhere along the way i just compleatly just goto gbatemp.net and super rarely goto mc
     
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    MaxConsole makes me cry... hard. [​IMG]
     
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    As you said, Maxconsole is horribly bias. It's a real pity that their ad content invades their journalistic integrity.

    Their normal daily posts about random gaming things are all well and good though, I enjoy reading those. As long as I don't have to read through something that sounds like an advertorial like their Cyclowiz bullshit.

    Maxconsole is paid by Divineo. And rumour has it that Divineo is the main distributor of Cyclowiz. I haven't heard it from the horse's mouth so I don't know if it's true, but recent events point to yes.
     
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    the drama [​IMG] looks like maxconsole reputation is going down the drain
     
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    Great topic.. this remember me of Ps2nfo (ps3news now) when PSP got homebrews running...

    its like the same thing all over again...

    Oh btw, just posted this great timeline on the MC forums [​IMG]
     
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    Good points. Never been a MaxConsole person myself, but I have frequented their hardware repair sections. They've helped me with PSP and PS2 repair issues in the past. So oh well.

    I have ... um ... 5 posts there, and now over 100 here. And I've been a member there three times as long as here. So who wins that?
     
  9. Warm Woolly Shee
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    They must have deleted it already, I don't see it.
     
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    WarmWoollySheep, your name makes me feel good about life. It also makes me very sleepy. [​IMG]
     
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    They deleted:

     
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    MaxConsole is full of nubblets...
     
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    LOL, nice.
     
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    Global Moderator Veho The man who cried "Ni".

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    It would be going down the drain if they ever had a good reputation to begin with...

    You can't be objective in their line of business. If you want to be objective and can't favour the best paying company, you won't recieve free/prerelease items, you won't have exclusive reviews or interviews, and you'll lose readers to another site that is willing to tweak their review in exchange for having products to review (favourably, of course) before the rest.

    I guess the Wiinja team didn't pay them enough. [irony] Well, that will teach them to try and use the fact that they were here first and the word of mouth (or text of forum) as their only promotion. [/irony] [​IMG]
     
  15. Warm Woolly Shee
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    veho:
    Would you trust a maxconsole review?


    I'm not going to argue what is and isn't possible in this specific line of business as I'm not part of it, but here's what I do know: if there's a trustworthy site, that's the one I check everyday. I prefer useful information to lies.
     
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    I didn't even know Maxconsole...
     
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    I used to check MaxConsole daily until I discovered GBAtemp. Since that point, I don't think that I've gone back. GBAtemp is just a better place for information, as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    Haha taken from wiinewz

    "MaxCuntzl reports that the CycloWiz has begun shipping to retailers. This leaves users scratching their heads since chips are being shipped and the developer website still is not open and no install pictures are available. Nice support, Team Cyclops!!!"
     
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    Global Moderator Veho The man who cried "Ni".

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    I wouldn't trust any single review. I would trust a bunch of good reviews of a product by several sites and magazines, if the appraisal (or critique) is unanimous, or at least the majority, but I don't trust single reviews. Be it a difference in personal taste, or personal opinion, or the main thing that makes one-sided reviews so bad, subjectivity, any one isolated review is never enough.

    But that's beside the point.
     
  20. TheVirus

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    GBATemp gets review samples, sometimes early, and their reviews aren't biased. If a website is popular and can prove it to companies, then they can get review samples without issue. Most companies, especially new ones, are fairly easy to get review samples from. They are usually willing to get as much press as possible, so I'm sure MC could have just asked both companies for a comparison review.
     

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