Hacking Any way to block updates on Sysnand? Even with hardware mod?

[Chrushev]

I'm streetpassing with the whole world
I got a raspberry PI modelB with spillpass v1.6 on it as streetpas relay, it cycles every 8-10 minutes between 12 known mac's of Nintendo Zones, i get people from USA, till China etc....
(Ow, and yes the few kids i know in town with a 3DS, when they pass my house with there 3DS can streetpass with me it's not myself between my 3ds systems)



[EDIT]
When streetpassing outside, when you meet real people, you don't have to be affraid to get an update! it connects to other systems, but not to Internet, unless you configure the internet settings to make connection with your 3DS, you don't need internet to streetpass.
Just check it yourself in the top left corner of your system, when the WiFi switch is on and you are connected to your internet, it says "Internet", when you leave your house and it loses the WiFi signal, it switches to "Streetpass"
Assuming, like you say, you want to go out and meet real people with 3DS systems so you can streetpass, your first question is not needed, as long as you don't configure other WiFi AP's in your 3DS from outside (public WiFi)

HomePass is dumb, it takes any fun out of streetpassing. I can get every country/region/puzzle piece in a few days with HomePass... whats the point of that? Just hack the game to have 99999999 streetpasses and all puzzle pieces and all regions... same difference.

Completely wrong on leaving the house. I dunno about Belgium, but in USA we have a NintendoZone.. its everywhere... like on every corner... if you read any of the posts above you would see that I already said that if you have no Wifi configured your 3DS will connect and download the update when you are out and about the town. Every corner has Nintendo Zone... literally every corner. Every McDonnalds, every Starbucks, every Cellular store, almost every chain retaurant/store has it. So you delete all WiFi settings, turn on Wifi and go outside... 5 minutes later you will have the update.

Even if you delete the nag, you will have to do it again in 5 minutes...

 

[apoptygma]

Nintendo Wifi locations, aka every starbucks, or mobile carrier store, or McDonnalds or one of other 100 other chains/stores that have free wifi... 3DS auto connects to those and grabs any updates/news etc etc, its like connecting to a WiFi but it does it automatically even if you have no WiFi set up.

WOAH! screw that. so do these companies cooperate with Nintendo or is it just 'any open Wifi' or what? I don't live in the US but this sounds like terrible idea.

 

[apoptygma]

WOAH! screw that. so do these companies cooperate with Nintendo or is it just 'any open Wifi' or what? I don't live in the US but this sounds like terrible idea.

This is really worrying does anyone have any more information about what differentiates a random open wifi network from a 'spot pass'?

 

[Chrushev]

WOAH! screw that. so do these companies cooperate with Nintendo or is it just 'any open Wifi' or what? I don't live in the US but this sounds like terrible idea.

This is really worrying does anyone have any more information about what differentiates a random open wifi network from a 'spot pass'?

I cant believe you guys dont know about this. its been around for years. And yes its a special network, usually a hotspot provided by ATT (major cell network carrier here) that works with Nintendo. They also call it "Nintendo Zone"... but these hostpots are everywhere...

I believe it connect by searching for specific SSIDs from these partners.. so if we can change 3DS (with a cia or some other hack) to search for [email protected]#[email protected]# SSID, then it will never find it. so it wont connect to these...

Here is a quote from Nintendo's site about it - Bring any system in the Nintendo 3DS family to any of over 29,000 locations to receive an automatic and free connection to Wi-Fi.


more info - http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/nintendozone
Partners

To find a Nintendo Zone hotspot near you, please use our partners' links below:
AT&T WiFi Services (except Hilton Hotels)
http://www.att.com/maps/wifi.html

Best Buy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat12090&type=page

McDonald's
http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/services/free_wifi.html

Boingo (Airports Only)
http://wifi.boingo.com/

Nintendo World Store in New York City
http://www.nintendoworldstore.com/

 

[Aliahan]

I dunno about Belgium, but in USA we have a NintendoZone.. its everywhere... like on every corner... if you read any of the posts above you would see that I already said that if you have no Wifi configured your 3DS will connect and download the update when you are out and about the town. Every corner has Nintendo Zone... literally every corner. Every McDonnalds, every Starbucks, every Cellular store, almost every chain retaurant/store has it. So you delete all WiFi settings, turn on Wifi and go outside... 5 minutes later you will have the update.

I don't think this is a problem if you're Streetpassing while running an up-to-date emuNAND. Just stay out of sysNAND. When you need to launch the exploit keep the WiFi switch off and only turn it on after opening the browser. It won't have time to download any updates.

Oh, and if by chance you do accidentally download the update in sysNAND, delete it. Power off, hold L+R+Up+A, then power on. Hit cancel when it asks to update and poof, update data gone.

 

[Chrushev]

I don't think this is a problem if you're Streetpassing while running an up-to-date emuNAND. Just stay out of sysNAND. When you need to launch the exploit keep the WiFi switch off and only turn it on after opening the browser. It won't have time to download any updates.

Oh, and if by chance you do accidentally download the update in sysNAND, delete it. Power off, hold L+R+Up+A, then power on. Hit cancel when it asks to update and poof, update data gone.

/facepalm... dude do you not read? i specifically said i know you can do this in emunand... question about sysnand... NOT emunand.

 

[apoptygma]

I cant believe you guys dont know about this. its been around for years. And yes its a special network, usually a hotspot provided by ATT (major cell network carrier here) that works with Nintendo. They also call it "Nintendo Zone"... but these hostpots are everywhere...

I believe it connect by searching for specific SSIDs from these partners.. so if we can change 3DS (with a cia or some other hack) to search for [email protected]#[email protected]# SSID, then it will never find it. so it wont connect to these...

Here is a quote from Nintendo's site about it - Bring any system in the Nintendo 3DS family to any of over 29,000 locations to receive an automatic and free connection to Wi-Fi.


more info - http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/nintendozone
Partners
To find a Nintendo Zone hotspot near you, please use our partners' links below:
AT&T WiFi Services (except Hilton Hotels)
http://www.att.com/maps/wifi.html

Best Buy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat12090&type=page

McDonald's
http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/services/free_wifi.html

Boingo (Airports Only)
http://wifi.boingo.com/

Nintendo World Store in New York City
http://www.nintendoworldstore.com/

My concern was that if someone were to change their SSID to match one of these they could easily MITM 3DS web traffic. I mean doing your online banking on a 3DS is probably a shit idea in the first place but the idea that you can trick a system into auto-connecting to a compromised access point makes it infinity worse!

 

[TotalInsanity4]

/facepalm... dude do you not read? i specifically said i know you can do this in emunand... question about sysnand... NOT emunand.

But... It doesn't force-update... It just prompts... And we've established that the prompt is easily removable...

 

[TotalInsanity4]

My concern was that if someone were to change their SSID to match one of these they could easily MITM 3DS web traffic. I mean doing your online banking on a 3DS is probably a shit idea in the first place but the idea that you can trick a system into auto-connecting to a compromised access point makes it infinity worse!

This was done with an Android app to launch the Go! Gateway exploit. It's not difficult to do at all, unfortunately

 

[apoptygma]

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This was done with an Android app to launch the Go! Gateway exploit. It's not difficult to do at all, unfortunately

I've got that app, I had to manually join the AP. perhaps I was using the wrong settings.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I've got that app, I had to manually join the AP. perhaps I was using the wrong settings.

Hm... Maybe we're thinking about different apps (since there are a few). The one I'm thinking of creates a Nintendo Zone that the 3DS auto-connects to through wifi tethering

 

[apoptygma]

Hm... Maybe we're thinking about different apps (since there are a few). The one I'm thinking of creates a Nintendo Zone that the 3DS auto-connects to through wifi tethering

3DS X-Loader by Ivan Garcia?

 

[TotalInsanity4]

3DS X-Loader by Ivan Garcia?

Pshhhhhhh maybe. Actually, that sounds right

 

[apoptygma]

Pshhhhhhh maybe. Actually, that sounds right

I just had a look and it sets the SSID to attwifi - so that's it, the 3DS is hard-coded to auto-connect to APs with the SSID of attwifi ?!? wtf kind of security is that. This is 2015 Nintendo! please tell me there is at least a setting somewhere to disable this...

 

[Aliahan]

/facepalm... dude do you not read? i specifically said i know you can do this in emunand... question about sysnand... NOT emunand.

Apparently you don't read, since like 3 of us said how easy it is to remove the prompt in sysNAND and you didn't acknowledge it at all. I was responding specifically to the issue of NintendoZone updates, which are easily avoidable by staying in emuNAND when you're out of the house. And if for some reason you need to be Streetpassing with sysNAND, big whoop, delete the update.

 

[oji]

It's impossible atm. You have two ways to solve your issue - remove update's nag as it's said before using hotkey trick or learn coding, hacking & make your own CFW where turn off updates functionality. The last one is not worth effort, imho.

 

[DjoeN]

HomePass is dumb, it takes any fun out of streetpassing. I can get every country/region/puzzle piece in a few days with HomePass... whats the point of that? Just hack the game to have 99999999 streetpasses and all puzzle pieces and all regions... same difference.

Completely wrong on leaving the house. I dunno about Belgium, but in USA we have a NintendoZone.. its everywhere... like on every corner... ..
.

It's not about the 99999999 and all puzzle pieces...
In Belgium we have like 12 Nintendo hotspots in the country and 1 in my province, that's miles away from me, so you can say, i have like 0 Nintendo hotspots around me.
So a streetpass relay is the only descent option to get to meet people.

 

[Chrushev]

Apparently you don't read, since like 3 of us said how easy it is to remove the prompt in sysNAND and you didn't acknowledge it at all. I was responding specifically to the issue of NintendoZone updates, which are easily avoidable by staying in emuNAND when you're out of the house. And if for some reason you need to be Streetpassing with sysNAND, big whoop, delete the update.

Aparently you do not read.. I did adress it.. and im adressing it again (below)

But... It doesn't force-update... It just prompts... And we've established that the prompt is easily removable...

Yes, that is true... however once you think about it... you will get the prompt... delete it... 5 minutes later when you come across another NitnendoZone/Spotpass location you will get it again.. over and over again.... idea of deleting it multiple times a day is not fun to me...

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Yes, that is true... however once you think about it... you will get the prompt... delete it... 5 minutes later when you come across another NitnendoZone/Spotpass location you will get it again.. over and over again.... idea of deleting it multiple times a day is not fun to me...

Then just wait until you get home. It will only nag you once per power cycle. It's when you pull it out of sleep for an extended time or power it off and then on that it asks to update

 

[gamesquest1]

or you know, people could do what they like without people moaning at them because they aren't doing it how they would.....if people want to use homepass enjoy, if people think homepass isnt good for them, dont use it