Any disadvantages of A9LH+Sysnand only (no Emunand/Rednand)

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  1. dabu-sapper
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    Dear gbatemp friends,

    are there any real disadvantages of A9LH loader+Luma+Sysnand without creating/keeping an emunand?
     
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  3. sj33

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    Not really anymore, not now that we can boot Decrypt9 straight from A9LH.

    You lose the ability to load anything that relies on 9.2 exploits or 9.x native firm, but in reality that's not really going to affect anyone. If you have to ask the question, then you probably don't need 9.2 EmuNAND.
     
  4. Psi-hate

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    It saves you 1-2gb of your SD. There are other advantages I'm sure. :]
     
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    There's only that you save 1-2 gb of space, but its always better to have a EmuNAND just in case. I'm planning to move from Updated SysNAND to EmuNAND myself.
     
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    I read somewhere that some homebrew also need 9.x native firm. Is that true?
     
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    Only Homebrew apps that needs ARM9 to execute.
     
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    I guess if you want to still use your Gateway card in conjunction with Luma3DS/an updated sysNAND that that's an utter bitch to set up, but non of that headache is inherent with Luma3DS/using an updated sysNAND so I guess that wouldn't count as a real disadvantage towards it but instead counts as another disadvantage towards using anything Gateway.
     
  9. tony_2018

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    It is possible to load emunand from cold boot correct?
     
  10. sj33

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    There's nothing stopping you from making a 9.2 EmuNAND later anyway. It's not an irreversible decision.
     
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    That would only be ARM9 payloads, but those are inherently loadable from ARM9loaderhax so it's a moot point.
     
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    The only disadvantage I can think of is if your backup(s) of sysNAND turns out to be faulty/corrupted and you'd ever need them you're screwed. If updates only happened on emuNAND on the other hand and that breaks you could always create a new emuNAND from your still working sysNAND.
     
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    The only read disadventage will be the slower restore of the nand(which is only needed of you broke something), because you can't use a sd reader on your pc with higher speed. Also you will need a 9.2 EmuNAND for some ARM9 Applications, like GWs launcher or some older ones, but the arm9 homebrews that are needed the most are updated for a9lh, so you will be able to directly boot them.

    If you want to use the Emunand instead of the Sysnand as your main NAND, you need to keep in mind that you need to install DSi and GBA Title to both Nands, and you need to boot into Sysnand every time after you played a GBA game, otherwise you save will be lost.
     
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    On an o3DS, can you still install the 9.2 browser for ARCodes and SpiderHax?
     
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    Even in this case you are not totaly screwed with a9lh. You should be able to rebuild the NAND with XORPADS and much help, and if you have a 9.2 Emunand you can simply copy it to sysnand.
     
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  16. Tenshi_Okami

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    Yep, but it will ask for an update if you leave the 3DS in sleep mode while you are in the internet
     
  17. 3DSPoet

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    I thought a9 blocked update checks?
     
  18. Tenshi_Okami

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    Nope, it blocks the Frim0/1 updates itself when a new update comes out.
     
  19. 4gionz

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    No op also please use updated sysnand you'll be doing yourself and the community a favour, emunand is USELESSSSSS I get irrationally angry when I see people suggest it for noobs. The only people that should be using emunand are advanced users who need to test apps or homebrew and don't feel like bricking and restoring sysnand. Emunand does nothing but confuse noobs. Recommending emunand on a 3ds is like recommending emunand on a wii..basically completely useless

    Also the argument of flashing a corrupted NAND backup is also gone with @doke new tool hourglass9 so seriously nobody should be using emunand anymore unless you absolutely NEED it. IMO at least
     
  20. Noroxus

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    emuNAND is not safer than updated sysNAND. Switching from updated sysNAND to emuNAND is 100% waste of space and time.

    If you dont believe me ask a dev.
     
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  21. Lush

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    RIP emunand. You had a good run. But updated sysnand is the new prom queen around here...