Another day of protests

[Bruinbaard]

Well you actually got to pice some schoolmoney and you've got to buy your own books. I'm at the moment on school from 8.30 to 15.00 regulary but when i get at home i still need to do a few hours of homework. So I ain't got much time for myself, freakin school.
That's why I don't want more hours however I don't protest if Laks doesn't organises it.

i never got that... you have to rent your own schoolbooks for a whole year and pay a shit load of money for them
i rememeber having to pay 250 gulden for mine
which is about 80-90 quid
which is about $160-180
and i never did homework except for classes where the teacher would actually check it

Well now it's more like 300-400 euro's to rent my books a year

freakin expensive

 

[Sc4rFac3d]

Man, am I going to be happy the day I GTFO of this country. 250 guilder (120 euros) is dirt cheap btw. I pay 500 euros.

 

[Linkiboy]

I pay 400USD for all of my books

 

[hollabackitsobi]

We go to school from 8:00 to 3:10 here, with a 30 minute lunch break. We go to school 180 days in the year, as mandated by the state of Florida. That comes out to 1260 hours. FUCK these kids, they shouldn't be bitching at ALL. Last year we had 6 periods, and this year they UPPED it to 7 because of the idiots failing that needed extra periods to make up credits.

That schedule change fucked me, since I take all AP and IB classes, I'm busy enough. My schedule now looks like this:
IB Chemistry II
AP US History
IB Psychology
IB Spanish 5
AP Biology
AP English Literature/IB English III
AP Music Theory (free class)
AP Calculus AB (online, because the schedules were so DAMN BAD)

That comes out to even MORE than 1260, since I have Calculus to do when I come back home from school. It SUCKS to say the LEAST, so these kids should shut the hell up and shove it up their asses.

 

[dakeyras]

Contrary to popular belief, most high school punks don't have so much of a problem with the extra hours. But they do have a problem with what they do in those extra hours. The government is enforcing a rule while not giving the school enough resources to live up to it.

There aren't enough teachers to fill these hours up with regular clas. What happens is that they find someone who is cheap, put him in a class with the kids, and tell the kids to do homework. Just to fill the quota. Basically, people are being kept at school while having nothing to do and are being 'taught' by someone who is not a teacher and doesn't know shit.

I was doing christmas shoppings in Amsterdam last monday, some kids were throwing stones at the police on the dam. I ate a rumrozijnenbol and watched it. It was amusing.

 

[Bruinbaard]

They should count our homework hours with the 1040 then we are far over it! Since I'm doing VWO which is the hardest direction here.

 

[Scorpei]

Geesh, I've made way more hours each year then 1040 (1 hour = 50 minutes in class) and only this year I might get under it because I'm the 6th form (meaning I have the 780 rule instead of the 1040).

As for school books, this year was around 550 euros, last year was pretty much the same.

 

[PBC]

Why can't these kids do the same thing as any american kid like myself??

Sure high school is a bitch...and no one wants to do homework (wahhhh)
but thats why you slack off IN COLLEGE. where no one can tell you to go, its your own choice. Now...if they don't make it out then thats their fault and they are to blame themselves. and if they don't want to go to college then why even go to high school.

Work hard now...so you can slack alittle later.

Ps. If you want to talk about a long school day. I lived in rural maine (new england) and rode the school bus. I was on the bus at 7am and wasn't off the bus until 4pm. 9 hour day. EVERYDAY except weekends. And yes, I'm sure our teachers were a wee bit shittier than theirs....plus an average of 2 hours of homework perday.
Discuss

 

[laminaatplaat]

I just like to add :

1040 hours are the hours of education, so it is 60min. There are alot off different sorts of time tables on schools; 45,50 and 60 min. it is all called 1 hour on different schools. but in this rule 1hour is 60min (duh)

 

[azotyp]

So now you understand why she is protesting against 1040 hours......... dont you?

But still that girl was funny, eaven if she would protest against abortion, she would be funny, her muther....er and rap gesticulations just killed me

 

[Fiddy101]

We have 6 hours of 70min every day and yes i do live in The Netherlands

 

[azotyp]

More learning, more chances for brighter future you have

 

[dakeyras]

and if they don't want to go to college then why even go to high school.

It's the law?

 

[xcalibur]

We have 6 hours of 70min every day and yes i do live in The Netherlands

70 minute hours?
where in holland do you live?
the twillight zone?
are you neighbours with the flying dutchman



@all the dutch students

i cant believe they raised the prices to such ridiculous heights
do you still get shitty copies that have been torn/written in?
a friend of mine was unlucky and got a copy that was puked in

seriously, school used to be so awesome in holland when compared to england
no uniforms, no assemblies, no teachers breathing down your neck all the time
you get the same amount of respect in secondary school in holland as you get in college in england (with the exception of some punishements)
did anyone else have to help with the janitor?
i hated doing that...

 

[Rammoth]

We have 6 hours of 70min every day and yes i do live in The Netherlands


70 minute hours?
where in holland do you live?
the twillight zone?
are you neighbours with the flying dutchman



@all the dutch students

i cant believe they raised the prices to such ridiculous heights
do you still get shitty copies that have been torn/written in?
a friend of mine was unlucky and got a copy that was puked in

seriously, school used to be so awesome in holland when compared to england
no uniforms, no assemblies, no teachers breathing down your neck all the time
you get the same amount of respect in secondary school in holland as you get in college in england (with the exception of some punishements)
did anyone else have to help with the janitor?
i hated doing that...

lol, it still is, they've just become whiners. They think they want to RAISE the hours to 1040, but it's always BEEN 1040, except that not all schools managed to do it this way. In theory, I don't think a lot of people will even notice if it comes through.

The higher the education, the less free time, but the more chances once you're done. If you want to have loads of free time, drop to the bottom education, get loads of free time, get great grades with 2 fingers up your nose and fail in the future instead of whining at the government. It's what you make of it.

And prices? College is FREE until your 18th except for the books.
Once you're 18, you're gonna have to pay BUT, you'll get unlimited free public transport for as long as you're a student and you'll get 75 - 250 euro (depends on how much your parents earn) from the government EACH month without doing shit and if you don't live with your parents, another over 200 euro each month will be added.

Stop whining!

 

[Fiddy101]

I live in Dordrecht and our school is the only one having 70 Minutes and like the poster above me said it always have been 1040 hours they just want too get more strict and make sure every school does finish all of its 1040 hours and Yes books are still screwed up but i have all new ones just my luck

 

[Scorpei]

and if they don't want to go to college then why even go to high school.

It's the law?

Then why not go to the VMBO until your 18 (and if you're done before that time, chances are you will if you go the VMBO, go do something that is kinda your hobby, there has to be something at least slightly interesting on that level of education).

I mean I'm 18 now and in the 6th year of the Gymnasium, I ain't gonna quit! I plan to be doing veterinary science next year and well at least one would need atheneum. Again I've made way more hours then 1040 so I really don't get what people are crying about. Yes if it would be bad for the level of education the rule shouldn't be there however if it DOES premote better education stop whining and go to school kids

. The best thing I've seen so far was some kid saying 'we've got freedoms too you know' (and that is in proper English mind you). That is NOT the point of the demonstrations, it isn't so you have more free time for christ sake

. So funny they don't seem to understand that (and the same that they don't understand that breaking windows and etc. isn't helping their cause: "So yea breaking stuff may be a bit much, but it shows we are serious and want more free time"- qoute idiot protester).

 

[Rammoth]

Just wanted to add that I just checked the news and the State Secretary points out that 1040 hours is an average of 5.4 hours a day. So basically these would be days from 9 to 14:30 (that's even a calculated 5.5 hours a day) on every day.

They also pointed out that as a result due to the commotion, people have investigated how many hours a day a student would prefer on average, with the result being 6 hours a day. Can we stop the protests now and hug some teachers?

For the dutch people, you can read the article here yourself:
http://www.nu.nl/news/1334794/10/Meeste_le...er_dag_les.html

 

[Scorpei]

And prices? College is FREE until your 18th except for the books.
Once you're 18, you're gonna have to pay BUT, you'll get unlimited free public transport for as long as you're a student and you'll get 75 - 250 euro (depends on how much your parents earn) from the government EACH month without doing shit and if you don't live with your parents, another over 200 euro each month will be added.

Agreed until 18 it is free (but who on earth gets in college when he is 14 or something :S?). Unlimited free transport AND the basis beurs (which is what the general money you get from the state, taking into account what your parents make) are given HOWEVER they are LOANS. If you do not complete your study course you will not be getting any money and will have to pay back EVERYTHING. Financially it isn't really as interesting as you are saying here

. As for living at home or not, the money you get isn't really all that much as generally those amounts are also calculated with the parents income in mind and the amount of children (and no more children does not equal more money from the state

).


http://www.ib-groep.nl/particulier/Informa...dragen_2008.asp

 

[Scorpei]

Just wanted to add that I just checked the news and the State Secretary points out that 1040 hours is an average of 5.4 hours a day. So basically these would be days from 9 to 14:30 (that's even a calculated 5.5 hours a day) on every day.

They also pointed out that as a result due to the commotion, people have investigated how many hours a day a student would prefer on average, with the result being 6 hours a day. Can we stop the protests now and hug some teachers?

For the dutch people, you can read the article here yourself:
http://www.nu.nl/news/1334794/10/Meeste_le...er_dag_les.html

Haha, you have to agree with me that most people protesting won't understand your point

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