Analogue Pocket announced; can play a variety of handheld systems' games through FPGA

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  1. FAST6191

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    Assuming they don't smoke all the crack and somehow make lag/ghosting with nearest neighbour scaling (for others playing along then for a 2x scale you copy the pixel to make a 4x4 grid of the same pixel, which is why you want clean multiple scaling) and the pixel aspect ratio is suitable then unless the subpixels have a different colour or are dead then I would say you see them in the same way someone with oxygen free copper hears better sound.
     
  2. Rahkeesh

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    At that high a resolution on a tiny screen, with a half-decent interpolation like retroarch's "sharp bilinear", you aren't going to need to stick to integer scaling. You can also get some very accurate filters to recreate the quirks of each display type. The individual dot matrix on your gameboys, the scratchy grid on your gameboy advance, etc. It really comes down to how much effort they put into the display scaling software to take advantage of this display.

    Also waiting to find if this has an SD card slot like every other analogue console, and the inevitable jailbreak that will follow to use it. Bringing over at least some 8-bit home console cores doesn't seem out of the question either.
     
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  3. PICTOCHAT

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    Will there be multiplayer capabilities?
     
  4. Sophie-bear

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    The difference is every other handheld device you own that you do this on which isn't a GameBoy is using software emulation. FPGAs create a perfect clone of the hardware so it'll play exactly like the original consoles, while including the modern benefits the system adds.
     
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  5. cearp

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    I was waiting for the email from them today - it will be an instant buy for me and I personally never do instant buys.

    I hope this gets 'jailbroken' like their other stuff :)
     
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  6. Sophie-bear

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    It supports GBA out of the box.
     
  7. cearp

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    yes I think it said there is a link port
     
  8. Sakitoshi

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    the ghosting is totally replicable to a believable extent, gambatte has an option called frame mixing that does just that and is very accurate (I have a gameboy light to compare).
    the thing with the subpixels is not that the color reproduction between pixels may fail, is that having two or more subpixels represent a single pixel doesn't look the same.

    look at this quick example of what happens when you represent pure colors with subpixels compared to native resolution.
    subpixels.
    at the left we have subpixels and to the right a single pixel.
    a red sprite would show evenly lit as opposed to have a space between pixels like the good old gameboy color/advance display it.

    thinking more about it this could benefit gameboy mono if they leave an intentional row of subpixels off between gameboy pixels, displaying things as blocks like the monochromatic screen does.
    but gameboy color will look different.
     
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  9. cearp

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    haha we just found out about this today.
    the supernt though can dump stuff, not sure about mega sg.
    this thing probably will be able to, plus you can see that they made it dev friendly, so... yeah I think lots of things will be possible for it.

    although if you really just want to dump and restore gb/a carts, you can buy cheap devices to do that.
     
  10. smilodon

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    I can see this unit becoming a good choice for chiptune artists, it is even DAC compatible.
     
  11. matthi321

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    its cool but defintly overpriced
     
  12. Clydefrosch

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    i mean i get that argument.
    but who can honestly tell the difference between a good emulator and the original? also, if someone demands the original, do they want accurate ghosting too?

    really, once crackling and screen tearing are off the table, 99.5% of the entire potential market for this is satisfied.
     
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    bUt It'S hArDwArE aCcUrAtE
     
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  14. Naendow

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    Well, the price is pretty heavy. But it seems to be a great handheld. I'll think about it.
    Edit: Well, I've just seen that it can't play ROMs. I can play my physical games on original consoles. I'll just stay with my GPD XD+ then.
     
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  15. Sophie-bear

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    The people who don't care about accuracy aren't the market the device is going for.
     
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    Comparing this device's insane resolution with the Switch's 720p display, and looking at Analogue's other products, I find the the $199 price tag surprisingly low.
     
  17. Naendow

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    Yea the screens resolution is great you're right. But for this price I also want some more features and not only the ability to play original games. I'd love to play Pokemon hacks on such a device, which I just can't do. And that is pretty bad if you think about the price.
     
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    Switch Mini, which undoubtedly will be hacked in the future. Costs 200 dollars, and will be able to emulate all of these games plus far beyond what this thing will be able to do. It can also play Switch games. The machine looks nice, but honestly I don't know why they keep making these devices.
     
  19. Veho

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    And when you're not gaming, it can mine bitcoins :ph34r:
     
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    If the Super NT and Mini NT are anything to go by, a jailbroken firmware could be released that allows roms to be running off the SD card.
     
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