1. MaverickWellington

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    Incel means "involuntary celibate," however, the term has a lot more weight to it than just not having sex. Let me explain.

    In extremely simple terms, it just means that women don't want to fuck you and you feel betrayed by society because of it. If you don't have sex, that's honestly fine. A lot of people who have lost their virginity will be the first to tell you it's seriously not worth dedicating your life to. Incels as "people" are a movement of extremely misogynistic, anti-social shut-ins who loathe society as a whole because they feel like the world is cheating them out of the one thing they fixate upon: a sexual relationship.

    So basically, if you aren't a morbidly depressed misanthrope who blames his virginity like it's anything to be ashamed of, you are not an incel relative to the movement. The mere fact you have to even ask if you're an incel shows you are self aware, which means, you are not an incel by default. Don't worry about sex or any dumb shit like that. You'll find a mutual love and respect in a genuine relationship sooner or later, and believe me when I say this, that shit's way more preferable and wholesome than just blowing your load.
     
  2. mattytrog

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    Involuntary = "I did not choose to"
    Celibate = "Be without sex"

    = I did not choose to be without sex.

    Not hard is it?
     
  3. Priestiality

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    Incels don't exist. The very idea that someone could be "forced" into celibacy is complete nonsense, because no one is entitled to a partner, be it for sex, a relationship, or even just someone to play video games with. No offense OP but as someone on the spectrum, you need to be really careful around toxic subcultures. They prey on those with poor social skills, and autism spectrum disorders are literally "genetically predisposed to sucking at social queues". Incel communities like to present themselves as a place for like minded individuals to support each other, but they ultimately do the opposite. They reinforce the worst in each other and convince themselves that nothing is ever their fault and society has the problem. They live in a world of delusion, where "being nice" entitles them to sex, oblivious to the fact that if one is only being "nice" to attempt to gain favor, they aren't actually being nice at all.
     
  4. smf

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    Then you don't understand what voluntary means.

    Alcoholics don't drink voluntarily for example.
     
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    No but neckbeards treat women like garbage voluntarily. Which is the point they were making. Incels are a self-fulfilling prophecy. They're literal human garbage, a half-rung up on the ladder from rapists, with no desire to ever improve themselves, and they blame everyone else for it.
     
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    That depends on your point of view.
     
  7. Priestiality

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    Which goes back to my point about "living in a world of delusion".
     
  8. smf

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    Right, you are living in a world of delusion.

    Incel is either genetic, which means their thinking is certainly not voluntary.
    Or it's environmental & their thinking was create by their life experiences, which means it probably wasn't their choice either.

    Either way to them it's an entirely logical point of view. You may as well be criticising them for choosing to be gay or jewish.

    It's societies responsibility to deal with the problem, unless you live in the US in which case you pretend it's not and then wonder why there are so many gun deaths (all the time secretly enjoying the large number of gun deaths). You certainly don't solve this kind of problem by heaping even more shame on the sufferers.

    Most beliefs are based on some truth that has become distorted, what the incels don't see is that the women are also trapped in their own reality & aren't going to see the potential of someone who is broken. Most importantly they don't see that a relationship won't fix them either. It's more likely going to end in disaster and further reinforcing their original belief.
     
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  9. mattytrog

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    Just one thing...

    celibacy
    ˈsɛlɪbəsi/
    noun
    noun: celibacy
    the state of abstaining from marriage and sexual relations.
    "a priest who had taken a vow of celibacy"

    abstain
    əbˈsteɪn/
    verb
    gerund or present participle: abstaining
    1.
    restrain oneself from doing or enjoying something.

    ...

    So, therefore Incel, therefore means "I don`t choose to choose to go without sex". It is a contradiction.

    Its just a nonsense word for nonsense people. A bit like those who think there are more than 2 sexes. XX or XY... I`d like @mothernature to respond to this thread. It is just a nonsensical politically correct load of twaddle.

    I think it is actually a typo... Should have been "incest" - ie referring to the term-inventors parents...
     
  10. FGFlann

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    Ever since one of them decided to commit a high profile crime suddenly everyone and their mother is an expert on what constitutes a self-described "incel". And of course it's the least charitable explanation of their circumstances possible. Most of these people are lonely men with crippling anxiety, depression, sometimes physically repugnant and almost always with no romantic prospects. They are the bottom of the social barrel and absolutely pitiable but they are not defacto monsters who take their frustrations out on women or society. All they are, are sad people who need help getting their lives together. This new public perception of their self-described identity is only going to drive them further into an asocial spiral. Every person who is complicit in spreading this perception of them are creating the very monsters they're describing by *actually* turning society against them.
     
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    Look up mexican andy and you'll know what an incel is
     
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    Erm...no offense but I already explained what I meant. I'll try again, but I'm unsure where I'm unclear. Sorry if I'm missing the point.:unsure:

    Let's look again at the "proverb" :

    "No matter how good looking she is, someone, somewhere is tired of her shit"

    Let's try it like this : is 'someone somewhere' tired of your shit? Or mine? The answer is no. The ironical reason is that's only true because we're male, ugly or both We still have some privacy. I've been an active member of a kinky community for years, visited meetings, engaged in discussions, wrote stuff and so on. After, say, five years I had 200 (online) friends. Then I met someone who would become my girlfriend. In less than 2 months in the community, she had more 'friends' than me.
    That in itself is already an indication : with this sort of behavior and a feed that relays everything you say, women already have a larger voice in the community than men.

    Before pick up artists showed up, this wouldn't be so bad Unfortunate enough, (single) men started to realize this situation in a rather perverse way and started acting on it Compliment a women and you'll end up in the 'friend zone' (which is apparently no sex, despite my own personal experience).but complain about women and you've got their attention. And man... This has some weird consequences online.

    But I digress My main point is that women are living under microscopes. They can rarely DO something without being judged for it. And that proverb you made up plays into that. It assumes that women can just be judged at will 'just because'.
     
  13. mattytrog

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    Erm, no offense, but it was meant as a JOKE. You know, those things you laugh at.

    IT isn`t meant to be taken literally. And it is about as Chinese as I am.

    Proverb, adjective, pronoun, proclamation, whatever. Doesn`t matter. It is taken in jest.

    We are all judged. Just some more obviously than others. The human race, by its very nature, judges. Ever looked at a womans arse? t*ts? Has a woman ever looked at a mans eyes / pecs / cleanliness / attire / car / accomodation? Yes they have. It is about not having prejudice and taking people as you find them.

    I am prejudiced, but sadly I am normally correct. Will people think I am an idiot? Definitely. Some of them. Will I lose any sleep over it? Absolutely not.

    It is how you let those who judge you affect you and influence you. Id sooner be hated for what I am and tell you to fuck off, rather than liked for whatever front I choose to show them. For example, I can`t stand parents who want to bring up their kids as "non-binary". What are they trying to do to the kids? I am prejudiced against them, because they are idiots. This isn`t about gender reassignment or intersex individuals.

    The term "incel" doesn`t exist. Or it does to the terminally stupid. See my definitions of the word above.

    I agree what you say, compliment a woman and they think "urrrrgggghhh". But start off cheeky and you are normally OK. It worked for me in my younger days! Ladies know when someone is buttering them up. They aren`t stupid. They are like us. Equal.

    Friendzone doesn`t exist either. You are either "in there" or not. This is society nowadays.

    If you think you are "incel" around women or whatever nonsense term they come up with next, the ladies either think you are a tool, slimeball, wimp or a woofter or desperate.

    If you stop blokes being blokes or women being women, what are you left with? A bunch of politically correct social justice warriors. And hard-left socialism where people are afraid to say it like it really is. We are half way there already.
     
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    problem with "incels" is that they focus on sex instead of focusing on the human being that they're interacting with. Here's a list of things you might want to try.
    1. Stop watching porn.
    The first step is going to help you with the next step.
    2. Stop objectifying women.
    women don't exist so that you can get laid.
    3. Become a conscious human being.
    All your thoughts and actions have real life consequences.

    Incels are really just Volcels because you're choosing to be the kind of person that doesn't attract another person of the opposite sex to want to get to know you. Sex is the last piece of the puzzle in a relationship.

    TL:DR
    Check yourself.
     
  15. JiveTheTurkey

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    So by definition it would be someone like that Elliot Rodger guy who blamed women for not wanting to be with him?
     
  16. Glyptofane

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    Both groups consist largely of losers, so there is naturally some overlap. I've never found alt-right views themselves to be a major factor in driving women away, at least not all of them. Sometimes they end up expressing positions even further to the right than myself.
     
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    No, it really doesn't. Try spending 5 minutes on r/incel and tell me that these people aren't shooting themselves in the foot at best, making excuses for rape and misogyny at worst

    — Posts automatically merged - Please don't double post! —

    You sound rude
     
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    Do you believe that you are unable to ever be in a relationship due to reasons outside of your control? Then congratulations, you're an incel. That's really all there is to it. Anything beyond that is extraneous, relevant only to how such people conduct themselves and to how society perceives them. It doesn't sound like you think that though, so by definition you aren't an incel. In my opinion you sound like you might be someone with a low sex drive, if anything. Nothing wrong with that.
     
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    Basically. Incels are defined by their general tendency of treating women like objects, and harbor resentment towards them as a result of their antisocial tendencies. The whole term "incel" stands for "involuntary celibate."

    Re-reading OP's post, however, it looks like he's not an incel; he just doesn't hold an interest in sexual interactions. And that's fine. I would say that makes him a voluntary celibate, however, it looks like there's a distinction between celibacy and asexuality, in that celibacy implies sexual drives.
     
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    Those traits are common among incels, but not required. One could easily believe that they are so repulsive in some way that nobody would ever want them and simultaneously treat women like people. That is pretty uncommon though, at least in these online communities. Whether that's because such people are actually rare or because they're less likely to join such a community, I don't know.
     
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    So much cringe in this thread.
    GBAtemp should have a 16+ year olds rule.
     
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