ACLU wants porn to be allowed for South Carolina inmates

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The American Civil Liberties Union is pushing for porn at a detention center in Moncks Corner, South Carolina.​

MONCKS CORNER, S.C. (KABC) -- The American Civil Liberties Union is pushing for porn at a detention center in Moncks Corner, South Carolina.

The move came after reports surfaced that the facility only allowed inmates to read the Bible. But prison officials said that isn't true and inmates have a wide variety of reading material at their disposal.[/p]

again, the story above contains copyrighted material and as such, you may read the remainder of the story here.

sure, why not just give them crack on the tax payers dime as well.
 

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Devin said:
What else are they supposed to do? Work? XD

they should all be working to build a fence on the border and several Alcatraz type prisons, thats what they should be doing.
 

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Why give them more pleasure than they deserve. They broke the law, they deserve to be punished. Who the hell deserves porn in the first place.
 

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smile72 said:
Why give them more pleasure than they deserve. They broke the law, they deserve to be punished. Who the hell deserves porn in the first place.

You do realize you are not the spokesperson for humanity right?
 

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Needs to be done.

I mean, as long as the budget is the same (or funded by private organizations), and nothing is being taken away from things like food or public service projects, what's the big deal?

While not true for everyone, a lot of people in prisons made just one big mistake. They're already having so many of their human dignities ignored for however long for just one thing, why not let them have a semblance of sexuality?
 

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monkat said:
Needs to be done.

I mean, as long as the budget is the same (or funded by private organizations), and nothing is being taken away from things like food or public service projects, what's the big deal?

While not true for everyone, a lot of people in prisons made just one big mistake. They're already having so many of their human dignities ignored for however long for just one thing, why not let them have a semblance of sexuality?
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Anyway, I agree. Plus it will calm their nerves and could ultimately prove to be a good thing.
 

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The only thing jails are good for is to lock away anyone with a different opinion than the most popular one.

Porn in jail is a brilliant idea, probably reduce the spread of aids amongst (wo)men, and keep them from having gay tendencies when they prefer straightness.
 

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The Living Shadow said:
Devin said:
What else are they supposed to do? Work? XD

they should all be working to build a fence on the border and several Alcatraz type prisons, thats what they should be doing.

Moron... I'm sorry but ignorant sheep like you are the reason this country has gone from the most upwardly mobile country on the planet to the least. We live in a police state, our government has suspended the constitution via the "patriot" act, we have 300 million people, a small percentage of the world population, yet somehow, we have 1/4 the ENTIRE WORLDS prison population in our jails! The richest 1% earn 40 percent of the wealth with the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer every day, the economic inequality in larger than it's been in a century, here in WA they "fixed" the 6 billion dollar budget gap by slashing aid to local low income/no income health clinics for the extremely poor, cutting the state health plan off to anyone new, cutting the paultry $369 we give to temporarily disabled people who were not injured at work to a UNREAL $150! Ya that's gonna get you by! when a studio appartment costs $700 here! So after doing their civic duty and once again crapping on the people who can LEAST afford to be crapped on they go to the next most OBVIOUS place to cut money to... our kids... slashing the SCHOOLS BUDGET by 3 billion, and many many more horrible horrible things (seriously you should see it...).

I'm sorry but you are truly stupid... when you think that throwing more of our people into prison (which by the way idiot TURNS people into criminals! I gaurantee you if you're not a criminal before going to prison you will learn to become one in there!) is a good thing it makes me think of how ignorant our society is at large. Our justice system is a factory, it produces jobs for cops (hence the police state where we have NO rights left) and generates money for the states ("we have lots of prisoners to keep YOU safe so we're gonna charge you more taxes"), prosecutors care NOTHING if someone is innocent or gulty unless it's in the media, the only way you get justice is if you can BUY it. I used to consider myself a democrat because I favor government help for the poor, but they are beyond corrupt now as well... this country has SOOO much money, but the rich, who pay off the politicians so they wont tax them or they spend it on this unjust war on drugs, just keep getting richer while I can't even get a fricking checkup without going into banckruptcy!

So ya... I'm real proud to be a fricken citizen of the united states of shat! Where people like you rule... *spit*

we're so overdue for a revolution... our country is so unbelievably broken, it makes me so angry when i see how blind people are to it... sorry for the rant i just get so mad when people can live in the same society as mee and not see this stuff too! It's right in fornt of our faces! I play a LOT of video games, i mean a LOT... but i still take the time to look around every now and then. I fear for the future... my generating and younger are so apathetic and neutered. Our parents and grandparents fought to keep our country great and in the span of 30 years we've managed to destroy evrything! my grandparents would be turning int heir graves knowing this country is what they fought for... my generation is going to be the FIRST generation of americans to not do better than their parents. ever. however i believe that to be mostly due to the greed of our parents generation.

In the 50's, if you made more than 2 million in todays money they taxed you 91%! Can you tell me we were not doing well in the 50's!!?!?! yet now we have these mega rich hoarding all the wealth and it's WRONG! But they are BUYING our politicians off! anything over a few million should be taxed to the hilt! no one needs so much money when there's people homeless in our streets and so many of us (EVEN WITH JOBS!) can't get halthcare! omg i'm ranting so hard lol. i'll stop. I'm sounding nutty... god i hate it here... why couldn't i have been born in france or the netherlands or something. crap... this is a gaming website isn't it lol, wow... kinda flew off the handle there, ohh well I stand by it! hehehe
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The Living Shadow said:
Devin said:
What else are they supposed to do? Work? XD

they should all be working to build a fence on the border and several Alcatraz type prisons, thats what they should be doing.

YES! For god's sake, YES! There is a massive labor force that can manufacture goods and build infrastructure that is not currently utilized at all!

My idea is - make them work for their own upbringing. As of now, we pay for their food, we pay for the roof over their heads, we pay for their entertainment. ENTERTAINMENT. In a DETENTION CENTER. Are you people INSANE?

It's not just the U.S, it's happening all around the world. Crime rates are high because prisons become less and less of a punishment and more and more a bore between different crimes. The inmates are supposed to be resocialized - understand the value of a given currency and understand how society works. What you're doing is giving them bloody pass time, this is completely unacceptable.

A prisoner who does not agree to work should be given the absolute minimum of privilages. Everything else should be available to them via "credits" - a virtual currency that is usable only within the prison to prevent embezzlement while their actual "income" would go 50% to the prison and 50% for the inmate's "outside" account. If the inmate has a family, it should be 50%/25%/25%.

It's not a matter of being a humane person or not - it's a matter of supporting the "allow them to do whatever" politics or not. EVERY privilage, every meal that is over the standard, disgusting minimum, every video/dvd/other types of fun should NOT be free. If they want free entertainment, they can go for a bloody walk.

I've personally heard stories of people commiting crimes JUST TO GET CAUGHT so that they can head back to prison and live a carefree life. HOW is this possible in a modern society? And WHY is this even an option?
 

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kenpachi said:
The Living Shadow said:
Devin said:
What else are they supposed to do? Work? XD

they should all be working to build a fence on the border and several Alcatraz type prisons, thats what they should be doing.

Moron... I'm sorry but ignorant sheep like you are the reason this country has gone from the most upwardly mobile country on the planet to the least. We live in a police state, our government has suspended the constitution via the "patriot" act, we have 300 million people, a small percentage of the world population, yet somehow, we have 1/4 the ENTIRE WORLDS prison population in our jails! The richest 1% earn 40 percent of the wealth with the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer every day, the economic inequality in larger than it's been in a century, here in WA they "fixed" the 6 billion dollar budget gap by slashing aid to local low income/no income health clinics for the extremely poor, cutting the state health plan off to anyone new, cutting the paultry $369 we give to temporarily disabled people who were not injured at work to a UNREAL $150! Ya that's gonna get you by! when a studio appartment costs $700 here! So after doing their civic duty and once again crapping on the people who can LEAST afford to be crapped on they go to the next most OBVIOUS place to cut money to... our kids... slashing the SCHOOLS BUDGET by 3 billion, and many many more horrible horrible things (seriously you should see it...).

I'm sorry but you are truly stupid... when you think that throwing more of our people into prison (which by the way idiot TURNS people into criminals! I gaurantee you if you're not a criminal before going to prison you will learn to become one in there!) is a good thing it makes me think of how ignorant our society is at large. Our justice system is a factory, it produces jobs for cops (hence the police state where we have NO rights left) and generates money for the states ("we have lots of prisoners to keep YOU safe so we're gonna charge you more taxes"), prosecutors care NOTHING if someone is innocent or gulty unless it's in the media, the only way you get justice is if you can BUY it. I used to consider myself a democrat because I favor government help for the poor, but they are beyond corrupt now as well... this country has SOOO much money, but the rich, who pay off the politicians so they wont tax them or they spend it on this unjust war on drugs, just keep getting richer while I can't even get a fricking checkup without going into banckruptcy!

So ya... I'm real proud to be a fricken citizen of the united states of shat! Where people like you rule... *spit*

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Anyways, I say go for it. Nothing wrong with porn anyways. It will probably prevent some fights and everything going on in the shower (if you know what I mean). Hell, they already get tv, and they get amazing dinners, and they get access to a gym, porn wouldn't do any bad to them.
 

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Anyways, I say go for it. Nothing wrong with porn anyways. It will probably prevent some fights and everything going on in the shower (if you know what I mean). Hell, they already get tv, and they get amazing dinners, and they get access to a gym, porn wouldn't do any bad to them.

This is the attitude that scares me the most. "They already have *stuff*, we can give them more *stuff*." No, we can't give them more stuff, they have too much stuff to begin with! It's a prison for god's sake - if you need to fap, fap to the bloody concrete wall because you are a prisoner in a detention center because you've been a NAUGHTY PERSON. They should NOT get anything unless they work towards getting it.
 

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Foxi4 said:
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Anyways, I say go for it. Nothing wrong with porn anyways. It will probably prevent some fights and everything going on in the shower (if you know what I mean). Hell, they already get tv, and they get amazing dinners, and they get access to a gym, porn wouldn't do any bad to them.

This is the attitude that scares me the most. "They already have *stuff*, we can give them more *stuff*." No, we can't give them more stuff, they have too much stuff to begin with! It's a prison for god's sake - if you need to fap, fap to the bloody concrete wall because you are a prisoner in a detention center because you've been a NAUGHTY PERSON. They should NOT get anything unless they work towards getting it.

I agree. Also, we don't want to reward them too much as that may lead to people wanting to be there? Or have we already reached that point?
 

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"Stupid idea they don't deserve the right to porn when you go to jail. "

I assume you do not mean right in the sense one has a right to air. This would certainly be on a privilege basis and maybe filtered according to the prison you end up in (see various security levels). Also see the term "conjugal visits".

I will echo the others; prison, however ineffective it might ultimately be (a different debate for a different thread), is about rehabilitation and to attempt to curtail sexuality to serious degrees rarely ends well (see various religions).

I should also say something that would be reminiscent of the "when I were a lad if you found a scrap of volup porn in a bush somewhere you considered it a great find...... kids today" line you might have heard bandied about by those that grew up before the internet.

@Zetta_x forgive me for twisting words but lesbianism acts as a good conduit for AIDS now? Can't say I know a great about the AIDS transmission rates in US prisons though and I would not like to compare it against the UK situations. This says nothing of other STI/STD type things as well as well as drug use (another more than viable vector).
Certainly though a five knuckle shuffle is safer than most forms of sexual contact.
 

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