Hacking A9LH vs Menuhax - Is the risk worth it?

[Baggy Scraggy]

Yes. Very much possible. If you follow the guide.. everything currently installed on Emunand will be present on your Sysnand.
I was worried about this too. But even my save games are intact - without even a backup of those. I was surprised.

That's odd. I know you back-up your emunand, but I always thought emunand was just the partition where the system was stored, not where the game are located.

It may be because the emunand loads the Nintendo 3DS folder that had the games in it, but I'm probably wrong.

 

[toto621]

I got interesting informations here but I will need some clarifications before try it myself :
I actually have an O3DS XL with sysNAND 4.4.0-10E and a Gateway with emuNAND 9.7.0-25E (didn't use it since a while now). Can I use GW emuNAND for downgrades and OTP retrieval without issue? I want to ditch emuNAND and use AuReiNand to keep my sysNAND safe and updated, will I be able to boot into Gateway without issue from AuReiNand sysNAND or I must keep emuNAND for GW to work ?

 

[nickwhit]

It may be because the emunand loads the Nintendo 3DS folder that had the games in it, but I'm probably wrong.

Im thinking this is probably right actually. I figured at least my saved games would be gone, since I didnt use the tools to make backups.
In fact I even managed to keep a save backup made by the 3DS system. Still waiting to be restored one day lol. Have no fear - Youre not gonna lose anything.

All Ive done since doing all this is gain quick, quiet, perfect boots.. with no funny splash or debug screens. Oh and the ability to change my theme without breaking my hax/entry

 

[Baggy Scraggy]

Im thinking this is probably right actually. I figured at least my saved games would be gone, since I didnt use the tools to make backups.
In fact I even managed to keep a save backup made by the 3DS system. Still waiting to be restored one day lol. Have no fear - Youre not gonna lose anything.

All Ive done since doing all this is gain quick, quiet, perfect boots.. with no funny splash or debug screens. Oh and the ability to change my theme without breaking my hax/entry

So using TinyFormat on my emunand will NOT delete my games when I reach the end of the format?

 

[temper999]

If you format your emuNAND the games still exisit on the SD, but you are not able to play them anymore since they where locked to your emuNAND.

If you restore a emuNAND backup you are able to play them again, of course.

 

[nickwhit]

So using TinyFormat on my emunand will NOT delete my games when I reach the end of the format?

Correct. I had the same exact fear a few hours ago lol
Follow the guide 100% - dont skip anything - and youll be golden

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If you format your emuNAND the games still exisit on the SD, but you are not able to play them anymore since they where locked to your emuNAND.

For what hes asking - no. Formating through tinyformat will NOT harm your games in anyway.
All the games I had on my Emu are currently sitting and operable on my Sys now.

 

[Baggy Scraggy]

If you format your emuNAND the games still exisit on the SD, but you are not able to play them anymore since they where locked to your emuNAND.

TinyFormat works differently from System Formatting, so I believe restoring your emunand after formatting will cause the games to be playable again, but I'll need more than one person's confirmation on this before I attempt it.

Correct. I had the same exact fear a few hours ago lol
Follow the guide 100% - dont skip anything - and youll be golden

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For what hes asking - no. Formating through tinyformat will NOT harm your games in anyway.
All the games I had on my Emu are currently sitting and operable on my Sys now.

I already have a CFW set up and it cold boots through CTRBootManager, so I hope that doesn't screw up the entire process. Otherwise I'll just start at Part 4.

 

[nickwhit]

TinyFormat works differently from System Formatting, so I believe restoring your emunand after formatting will cause the games to be playable again, but I'll need more than one person's confirmation on this before I attempt it.



I already have a CFW set up and it cold boots through CTRBootManager, so I hope that doesn't screw up the entire process. Otherwise I'll just start at Part 4.

This is exactly what I did. Went from rxTools booting through CTR.. to this now.
The guide suggests changing your menuhax to type 1 with the dpad down as the trigger.. then starting at part 4 like you said.
Thats what I did, and it worked beautifully.. although I was scared throughout the process Id lose or break my menuhax and be locked out of brew for a while.

 

[Jiro2]

>lesshax. lol
Anyway, it can freeze in three places; menuhax splash, boot manager, or the CFW loader (.dat or .3dsx). Three chances of failing, so a low boot rate is expected.

At least lesshax doesn't use boot.3dsx and require that I hexedit the payload myself.

Anyway, I have ctrbootmanager set to let me manually choose from the menu. My failure rate is without ever getting to that menu. The failures can't be as a result of the CFW loader, because no CFW has been loaded. I suppose they could be a result of the boot manager, but the boot manager isn't using any exploits--why would it ever be failing?

 

[Expliciate]

TinyFormat works differently from System Formatting, so I believe restoring your emunand after formatting will cause the games to be playable again, but I'll need more than one person's confirmation on this before I attempt it.



I already have a CFW set up and it cold boots through CTRBootManager, so I hope that doesn't screw up the entire process. Otherwise I'll just start at Part 4.

Why don't you run it on sysNAND instead?
The idea of tinyformat formatting a NAND is so that it wipes the NNID, so that there will be a new one. If you were to wipe your emuNAND, it will generate a new NNID on the emuNAND thus rendering the current one you have with all the games useless.

 

[Baggy Scraggy]

How would I access the HBL

Why don't you run it on sysNAND instead?
The idea of tinyformat formatting a NAND is so that it wipes the NNID, so that there will be a new one. If you were to wipe your emuNAND, it will generate a new NNID on the emuNAND thus rendering the current one you have with all the games useless.

A big part of the guide is not registering your NNID. It also says to format emunand in the guide.

 

[Expliciate]

How would I access the HBL


A big part of the guide is not registering your NNID. It also says to format emunand in the guide.

It doesn't matter which one you format. The idea is so that there are two separate NNIDs that don't conflict each other.

 

[Raylight]

yep it was totally worth it lol

 

[Baggy Scraggy]

It doesn't matter which one you format. The idea is so that there are two separate NNIDs that don't conflict each other.

You are incorrect. It does create a new partition in the Nintendo 3DS folder when you format with TinyFormat, but it does not delete the original partition from before you formatted. Since that's the case, when you restore the emunand it uses the previous folder from before you used tinyformat so you keep all your games, files and such.

I would say it was worth it to install, it was exciting.

 

[Expliciate]

You are incorrect. It does create a new partition in the Nintendo 3DS folder when you format with TinyFormat, but it does not delete the original partition from before you formatted. Since that's the case, when you restore the emunand it uses the previous folder from before you used tinyformat so you keep all your games, files and such.

I would say it was worth it to install, it was exciting.

When did I ever say it would be deleted?
NNID is tied to NAND partition, irrelevant to SD storage.

If you were to wipe your emuNAND, it will generate a new NNID on the emuNAND thus rendering the current one you have with all the games useless.

Perhaps you should learn to read before jumping to conclusions.

 

[hausa51]

Here a9lh with a o3DS_XL. At first I was skeptical: Such an extensive wiki.
But the tutorial took me safely to the hand. And everything went very smoothly.
A great tutorial (thank you so much, Plailect)!
And yes, I think, it was absolutely worth it.

 

[toto621]

Done and keep it too on my O3DS XL, my N3DS XL was flashed back to stock 9.2 because I use Gateway with this one.
A9LH definitly worth it if you do not have flashcard, want a safety net for possible brick (Decrypt9/EmuNAND9 possibility from cold boot) and want to keep you console from unwanted upgrade as AuReiNand (confirmed) and CakeFW (not sure it was fully tested) prevent Firm0/Firm1 to be updated on SysNand (if you ditched emuNand) so you will keep your entrypoint forever (technically).

 

[guitarheroknight]

Its actually worth the risk, I mean there is no risk you just have to follow a proper tutorial.

1. Follow this up to the 27th minute where you restore your sysnand.



2. Drag and drop your OTP file here and it will automatically compile your OTP file.

3. Install A9LH via the HBM.

4. Profit.

 

[Baggy Scraggy]

When did I ever say it would be deleted?
NNID is tied to NAND partition, irrelevant to SD storage.




Perhaps you should learn to read before jumping to conclusions.

I never mentioned NNID in any of my posts. Take your own advice brother man.

Considering that my NNID is still functional, and I retained all of my games, you post is incorrect.

 

[Mazamin]

I think that the risk is worth it on o3ds, but not on new 3ds as it costs much more and you have a larger probability of bricking it as you even need to unbrick the emunand, and even as the new 3ds was never intended to have a <8.1 fw ver.