Gaming A not-so-positive impressions

[M[u]ddy]

The 3DS uses (auto)stereoscopy, which is the same method all 3D movies use, so there is no reason why objects couldn't come out of the screen.
There are several reasons, why most of the time the games only have "aquarium 3D", though.
Some examples would be:

-pop out objects can cause problems with the gui
-landscape could get cut off by the screen borders
-pop up objects waste a lot of the limited screen space

 

[Slyakin]

I'm kind of wondering about the "aquarium" 3D. Shouldn't it pop out?

Not necessarily. Old red/cyan 3D popped out. Now they focus mainly on depth.

But wait...

They've been advertising puppies that jump out at you, and feeling as if you're in the game...?

Unless of course, it differs from game to game. Now THAT would be nice.

 

[KingVamp]

I'm kind of wondering about the "aquarium" 3D. Shouldn't it pop out?

Not necessarily. Old red/cyan 3D popped out. Now they focus mainly on depth.

But wait...

They've been advertising puppies that jump out at you, and feeling as if you're in the game...?

Unless of course, it differs from game to game. Now THAT would be nice.

I do think it differs game to game. Hey, a game may be built to do 1/2 and 1/2?

I see a 3D Tv demo at Sam Club and the depth was fantastic!!!

 

[Ikki]

Of course, how the devs use the 3D capabilities is up to themselves.

 

[Slyakin]

Of course, how the devs use the 3D capabilities is up to themselves.

Okay, that settles it.

I MUST HAS 3DS NAOW,

 

[Midna]

Yeah, the devs can do 3D however they want. true. The main barrier to pop out 3D is the size of the object popping out. If it's bigger then the screen, it will be sharply cut off and look horrible. Additionally, pop out 3D adds almost nothing to games. Depth is far more useful.

 

[Slyakin]

Yeah, the devs can do 3D however they want. true. The main barrier to pop out 3D is the size of the object popping out. If it's bigger then the screen, it will be sharply cut off and look horrible. Additionally, pop out 3D adds almost nothing to games. Depth is far more useful.

Yeah, that's very understandable.

I haven't seen 3D in AGES. The last time was about 7-8 years ago, with those red-cyan glasses. The depth must be pretty damn awesome.

 

[Nollog]

ddy]
The 3DS uses (auto)stereoscopy, which is the same method all 3D movies use, so there is no reason why objects couldn't come out of the screen.

Autostereoscopy is when your not wearing glasses.
Same thing, just people are lead to believe since Sony keep pushing glasses, that it's inferior.

 

[croagunk.master]

http://www.skizo.org/forum/index.php?showt...mp;#entry249440

I've found these not-so-positive impressions on 3DS from a closed event on this Polish handheld forum.

Main points:

The 3D effect:
- is of the "aquarium" type - brings depth as opposed to popping out of the screen

I'm reconsidering my purchase due to this. Can somebody confirm if this is true or not?

 

[KingVamp]

I'm reconsidering my purchase due to this. Can somebody confirm if this is true or not?

QUOTE(Ramonra @ Feb 14 2011, 09:14 PM) Of course, how the devs use the 3D capabilities is up to themselves.

We was just talking about this above your post.

Read the posts.

btw it is both...

 

[croagunk.master]

I'm reconsidering my purchase due to this. Can somebody confirm if this is true or not?

QUOTE(Ramonra @ Feb 14 2011, 09:14 PM) Of course, how the devs use the 3D capabilities is up to themselves.

We was just talking about this above your post.

Read the posts.

btw it is both...

Oops didn't see that. If that is true, I'm definitely buying it.

 

[Midna]

...Cheap pop out effects make or break the purchase for you?

 

[croagunk.master]

...Cheap pop out effects make or break the purchase for you?

It's for me to decide how they are. They make the purchase for me.

 

[Midna]

Mmkay, whatever. Depth is far more important for me. The real value to 3D gaming is you can actually see distance into the screen on the z-axis, rather than just having things get bigger as they get closer.

 

[8BitWalugi]

Mmkay, whatever. Depth is far more important for me. The real value to 3D gaming is you can actually see distance into the screen on the z-axis, rather than just having things get bigger as they get closer.

Yeah. Pop-out is lame now.

 

[croagunk.master]

snip. Posted in the wrong forum.

 

[DiscostewSM]

Mmkay, whatever. Depth is far more important for me. The real value to 3D gaming is you can actually see distance into the screen on the z-axis, rather than just having things get bigger as they get closer.

Yeah. Pop-out is lame now.

I remember back during the good ol' SNES days with SMW. First time getting to Bowser in his flying clown contraption, and after you hit him a few times, he'd fly into the background with the audio growing silent, then he'd fly forward, audio getting louder, as he came closer like he would come out of the screen. I thought it was one of the coolest effects at the time.

 

[heartgold]

3DS is very capable of creating pop out effects, the thing is your right eye has to look left part of the screen and left eye to the right, which is basically crossed eye and yeah that's very difficult for a long amount of time and straining. Didn't the MGS developer say for pop out effects he didn't want to create something that'd be painful to view.

 

[pachura]

I've just went through the whole 3DS impressions from Euro events thread at NeoGaf.

The feelings are very, VERY mixed. For some people the 3D effect works great. Some people loose the focus all the time. Some have problems in Kid Icarus, some in Pilotwings, some in other games. Some cannot even see it(!) despite having no problems going to 3D cinemas(!)...

The same goes for the color of 3DS. Some people say the blue one is better, some say it is ugly.

Therefore, it seems that it is absolutely necessary to check if 3DS works for you personally. Including specific games you want to buy. Or else you can be very disappointed... or forced to use the 2D mode.

Kid Icarus. Game is really beautiful but too fast, and it is thus difficult to "see" and to focus your eyes once and for all, especially when you're up in the sky (same configuration that PW) since you have Pit really near and the rest that's quite far. You focus your eyes on the background, but by doing so you don't see Pit, and then you want to check where he is, you have to focus on him, but can't really see the enemies coming at you. Maybe it is intended, maybe you need to get used to it, but it is quite strange to experience. The best way for such things I think will be the 1st person view, as you just have to care about where are the enemies to shoot, and you are already conscious about where you are without having to check your character.

I think 3D is really suited when everything is about equally as far and/or no object are too close from the camera (that's what makes some games' 3D "work"). As soon as something stands out by being too close, you have to focus each time you're moving your eyes from the close subject to the background and vice-versa, and that's when people think the 3D doesn't "work". Well to me it is a normal thing, and I think that developer should avoid using close objects except if they want the player to focus on it and to emphasize this object.

QUOTE

In Kid Icarus (which was the best game there for me) where you're holding it with one hand and frantically using the touch screen with the other, when you accidentally tilt it it's pretty annoying.

 

[ds_atisfied]

There are a bunch of question marks over the 3D on this thing:


[url=http://www.illinformed.co.uk/2011/03/nintendo-3ds-%E2%80%93-hands-on-impressions/]http://www.illinformed.co.uk/2011/03/ninte...on-impressions/[/url]

I don't remember ever becoming less excited about a Nintendo product the closer we got to launch :-(