A law firm has begun an investigation for a class action lawsuit on Nintendo over Joy-Con drift

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  1. Foxi4

    Foxi4 On the hunt...

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    After all the fake prototypes and various Youtubers shilling the numerous iterations of the device over the years I can't help but be skeptical until this thing is actually on store shelves, if it's ever mass produced to that extent. They've only just switched APU's *again* to a Ryzen, they keep messing with the device.

    EDIT: Actually, it seems like they switched APU's last year... God, it's been a while since they started building this thing, I lost track of all the announcements.

    I can assure you that the PS3 and PS4 suffer from the same issue, and in addition they also suffer from drift if a resistor on the foil PCB fails. The PlayStation controllers use a resistor as a voltage divider for the shoulder buttons, if it fails, you can experience drift on the stick when pressing them and the reverse, you can experience unintentional button presses when using the stick (at least that's my theory based on the symptoms, they do use the same supply) although this issue is revision-dependent. This particular problem is endemic to the technology used, it's more or less prominent depending on the user, the shape of the assembly and even some factors that are outside of the user's or even Sony's control, like the resin hardness. I can't imagine Xbox One controllers suffering from this problem more than DualShock ones considering the fact that they use the exact same sticks.
     
  2. sawao_yama

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    Not everybody treats their crap like hot trash. Mine started drifting two months into owning them. How did it start? Mario party. So screw off with your entitled bs.
     
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  3. FAST6191

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    I am somewhat surprised the nintendo defence force was not out in force on this one.

    That said no objections to some company that should know better being taken to task for engineering failures.
     
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  4. Torina

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    Lol
    And the SUPER UNLUCKY GAMER award goes to....
     
  5. Zeldaplayer67

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    At this point they deserve this.
     
  6. MasterZoilus

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    ahaha Can't wait for all those fanboys who gotta get that switch lite, to start running into these problems because its the same mechanism in the lite as it is in the regular switch. This is a very common problem.
     
  7. KingVamp

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    So odd that it had to come to this, when they fixed the connection issues pretty quickly.
     
  8. Glyptofane

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    Same. I almost always use the Pro Controller which has its own issues. We have two sets of joycon with no problems so far, but really they've barely been used. This does seem to be a ridiculously common problem though.
     
  9. Enryx25

    Enryx25 GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    I love Nintendo but I fully support this.
     
  10. Clydefrosch

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    Actually, that's not really sure yet.
    One reason the joycons use this type of stick is cause of the battery taking up very valuable space.

    The lite, even if they enlarged the battery, would have more space for a different stick setup
     
  11. Badgerx

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    "emulation scene", "karma".
    you mean you hope they get payback for not making it easy for attic dwellers to illegally play their games and not getting the money they often deserve?
    And cheap ass sticks?

    It's clear that you're not a Nintendo fan and highly assuming your an edgy xbox/fortnite minor, because so over the top grumpy and lashing out. You don't seem to know that Nintendo has had the best run of controllers (excluding N64) and that they're still a lot better than the clunky bad xbox controllers.
     
  12. Waywatcher

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    Such drama....

    I bought my Switch while traveling in the US two years ago. Last month I sent my Joy-Cons to the Nintendo HQ here in Sweden and got them back after about a week, repaired, and with two small packaged of candy. Oh, and a dust cloth as well. Free of charge, of course. I didn't even mind the wait since I have a pro controller...
     
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  13. MasterZoilus

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    it is sure...100%. And this lawsuit actually doesn't have anything to do with the drift! its completely misleading buuuuut now that we are on the subject.....

    I guarantee any amounts of money that they have NOT changed on the lite version....the dimensions of the thumbsticks look exactly the same, even the height, the top rubber pattern is the same and they're not going to spend $$$ on R&D and production on new thumbstick mechanisms that will cut into the large profits of the lite units. since its the same tech and just a less featured stripped down version of the OG switch. ... so yeah no changes, same thumbsticks/mechanisms, you'll see.
     
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  14. ShadowOne333

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    Quite the opposite, kiddo.

    Just because Nintendo's analog sticks have been quite decent since after the N64 doesn't mean that they get a free pass just because of previous console runs.

    The fact that they fucked up this badly with the Switch and still haven't addressed the situation is a huge redflag. I don't suport their each and every move like other sheep followers, because boy do they fuck up, a lot more recently.

    The analog sticks work like it should...
    For a couple months. After that, good luck playing anything that requires precision with it. If that doesn't mean cheap construction and poor design of the sticks, I don't know what will.
     
  15. Foxi4

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    Are you going to send them to be serviced the same way in 5 years time? 10? They should be a little sturdier than they are. Just because it's a big engineering challenge doesn't mean they shouldn't try.
     
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  16. Waywatcher

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    I'll definitely try, but by then I will probably be too busy with the next generation anyway. B-)
     
  17. Teletron1

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    what took so long for this to happen? my launch Switch has this issue and Big N tried to cover it up by saying it was a software glitch well 2019 and now everyone is starting to complain, well hopefully they just fix the problem or let's keep the fingers crossed they did with the new Switches that are coming

    Launch Switch left Joy-Con drift and thumb stick is defective
    2nd pair of Joy-Cons less than 3 months old started drifting

    has anyone found a reliable company for replacement parts? or is everyone producing parts with issues
     
  18. Foxi4

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    Perhaps I'm biased, but I expect my hardware not to break if I look at it funny. There's a lot of technical hurdles for Nintendo here, I outlined them throughout this thread, but they should address the problem. Do I think they did it on purpose as a planned obsolescence failure mode? No, I don't think that's the case. Is it lawsuit-worthy? No, I think Nintendo gave customers good customer service when it comes to faulty Joycons. Can they fix it? Probably - swapping the resin for a harder formula or bending the wiper leads to a less sharp angle should extend the life cycle of the controllers, perhaps significantly. The problem is that the design is fundamentally flawed - there's just not a lot of "meat" there to hold it together, so even if the joycons stop drifting, they will snap soon enough - the price we pay for low profile components nobody asked for.
     
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  19. banjo2

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    I don't have this issue, but a friend of mine did. I hope they figure this out, I fear the day mine start to drift.
     
  20. boomerang42

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    They haven't had an analog design so flawed since the N64, but this time the failure happens so much quicker when it goes that it's ridiculous.

    I can't see myself ever getting a Switch until they get rid of the drift problem. If they don't ever fix it... I guess I won't ever be getting a Switch. And when Switch first came out I was 100% certain I would be getting one someday.
     
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