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Ordering a Gateway 3DS. What size and brand of microSD should I get? Also, I'm on version 8.1.0 -19U. Will my card work perfectly right after getting it or will I need certain software or hardware? Finally, what are the pros and cons of either downgrading to 4.5 or updating to 9.2? Thanks.

One more thing, how would I download cubic ninja without updating to the latest version? Can I use a ROM? I don't know anybody who owns the cart and I heard they're getting expensive.
 

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Ordering a Gateway 3DS. What size and brand of microSD should I get? Also, I'm on version 8.1.0 -19U. Will my card work perfectly right after getting it or will I need certain software or hardware? Finally, what are the pros and cons of either downgrading to 4.5 or updating to 9.2? Thanks.

One more thing, how would I download cubic ninja without updating to the latest version? Can I use a ROM? I don't know anybody who owns the cart and I heard they're getting expensive.

Microsd size is up to how many games you want at any given point. 32gb is officially supported but higher is doable with 3rd party sd card formatting tools. If you're on an old 3ds you don't need any other games( cubic ninja or ocarina of time) to get gateway working. If you're on a new 3ds you do need one of those 2 and cubic ninja is the game of choice due to a plethora of other homebrew functionality it brings to the table. downgrading to 4.5 on an o3ds gives you the ability to get into gateway mode without an active internet connection and the ability to block system update prompts. 9.2 gives you greater compatibility with games when you aren't using your gateway.
 
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Ordering a Gateway 3DS. What size and brand of microSD should I get? Also, I'm on version 8.1.0 -19U. Will my card work perfectly right after getting it or will I need certain software or hardware? Finally, what are the pros and cons of either downgrading to 4.5 or updating to 9.2? Thanks.

One more thing, how would I download cubic ninja without updating to the latest version? Can I use a ROM? I don't know anybody who owns the cart and I heard they're getting expensive.
Is this a New 3DS, or an Old 3DS? For a New 3DS, you will need a retail copy of Zelda: OoT (and someone to upload the save to it somehow) or Cubic Ninja, at least for the initial setup. I saw a copy of CN in a local Target for $20, so they do exist, and with the availability of the DS Profile Exploit for New 3DS, I imagine the price of second-hand copies would be falling. Aside from that, there is at least one thread of people offering to install the NVRAM Profile exploit for owners of a New 3DS who do not own either of the required games.

Once you've used Zelda/CN to reach the Gateway launcher, you're able to install an older version of the System Settings app, allowing you to use the DS Profile Exploit (also known as NVRAM Profile Exploit or other similar names), as well as install the provided "Blue Card Fix" which will allow you to use the Blue Card (included with the Gateway) to both reinstall the NVRAM profile as needed, as well as play DS games. The downside is that while you're in sysNand, you lose advanced features such as Super Stable 3D and Wifi SD card management, but you'll still have them while in emuNand (which is a separate copy of the internal system files that runs off the SD card, so you can update it to a newer version without worrying about being locked out of the Gateway.)

If you have an Old 3DS, you can use the Browser exploit, and from there decide whether or not to downgrade to 4.x. Doing so does break the encryption of certain games, causing their save files to be seen as corrupted, however. If you don't have the affected games (or don't mind losing your progress), then there's not much of a downside there. There is more information available in the relevant threads.

I hope I was able to give you a brief overview of the initial process, enough to help make sense of the threads that go into more detail. If you still have questions, feel free to ask.
 
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I haven't been into the 3ds scene for a while, and am lost at all the new things even after reading a bunch of stuff. I have a 3DS running 4.4 and a gateway I just updated to 3.2.1. I can run some old games, but newer games just stay stuck on the loading screen. I'm guessing my firmware is too low? What's the recommended way for running newer games?

Also, I can't seem to boot into the gateway menu anymore. I usually go to settings->DS profile, which worked once when I placed the 3.2.1 launcher.dat into my sd card. but now, clicking DS profile just reboots the 3ds into gateway mode. Is there a new way to access the gateway menu?
 

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I haven't been into the 3ds scene for a while, and am lost at all the new things even after reading a bunch of stuff. I have a 3DS running 4.4 and a gateway I just updated to 3.2.1. I can run some old games, but newer games just stay stuck on the loading screen. I'm guessing my firmware is too low? What's the recommended way for running newer games?

Also, I can't seem to boot into the gateway menu anymore. I usually go to settings->DS profile, which worked once when I placed the 3.2.1 launcher.dat into my sd card. but now, clicking DS profile just reboots the 3ds into gateway mode. Is there a new way to access the gateway menu?

Hold L to get gateway menu, sounds like you are auto booting.

What version emunand are you running?.
 

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Is this a New 3DS, or an Old 3DS? For a New 3DS, you will need a retail copy of Zelda: OoT (and someone to upload the save to it somehow) or Cubic Ninja, at least for the initial setup. I saw a copy of CN in a local Target for $20, so they do exist, and with the availability of the DS Profile Exploit for New 3DS, I imagine the price of second-hand copies would be falling. Aside from that, there is at least one thread of people offering to install the NVRAM Profile exploit for owners of a New 3DS who do not own either of the required games.

Once you've used Zelda/CN to reach the Gateway launcher, you're able to install an older version of the System Settings app, allowing you to use the DS Profile Exploit (also known as NVRAM Profile Exploit or other similar names), as well as install the provided "Blue Card Fix" which will allow you to use the Blue Card (included with the Gateway) to both reinstall the NVRAM profile as needed, as well as play DS games. The downside is that while you're in sysNand, you lose advanced features such as Super Stable 3D and Wifi SD card management, but you'll still have them while in emuNand (which is a separate copy of the internal system files that runs off the SD card, so you can update it to a newer version without worrying about being locked out of the Gateway.)

If you have an Old 3DS, you can use the Browser exploit, and from there decide whether or not to downgrade to 4.x. Doing so does break the encryption of certain games, causing their save files to be seen as corrupted, however. If you don't have the affected games (or don't mind losing your progress), then there's not much of a downside there. There is more information available in the relevant threads.

I hope I was able to give you a brief overview of the initial process, enough to help make sense of the threads that go into more detail. If you still have questions, feel free to ask.

Thanks! I have an old 3DS, probably should have mentioned that. On a separate note, what brand of micro SD is recommended? I've heard about Kingstons being awful, and the one that came with my DSTWO a while back didn't work properly either.

Would this (http://www.amazon.ca/Transcend-MicroSDHC-Memory-Adapter-TS32GUSDU1/dp/B00APCMMDG) card work fine?
 

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On a separate note, what brand of micro SD is recommended? I've heard about Kingstons being awful, and the one that came with my DSTWO a while back didn't work properly either.
I have always use Sandisk. I use this brand for everything; mobile phones, camera, M3 Real, 3DS, etc... and I have never have problem with any of them.
The oldest one I have from 2009 still works perfectly.
However, Sandisk brand is one of the most counterfeited brands. So, try to buy from official/reputable resellers.

Some of my friends, however, prefer Samsung EVO since there are not as many fake Samsung cards as Sandisk.
Samsung EVO performance seem to be on par with Sandisk.
http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_32gb_evo_microsd_memory_card_review_mbmp32d
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-microsd-card/
 
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it is possible to create 2 ds profile for not relaunch ropmultiloader after playing a dsiware?a guy on 3dsiso say yes
 

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I don't think I'm running emunand. Is that what people use to boot new games?
On an Old 3DS, you can run the latest System Version by using emuNand. Using the Gateway menu, select "Setup Emunand", and it will reformat the card along with a 1GB partition, and copy your sysNand to that partition. Then you can update the emuNand to be on the latest firmware while not locking yourself out of the Gateway menu. There are several threads about emuNands, but I'd be happy to explain anything if you still have any questions.
 

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If you downgrade you loose your saves. If you want to go to the trouble you can use SDF to back up the aves first and then inject them back after downgrading.

There is a solution using android as a host for the exploit so wifi access is not required. iPhone user here so I can't recall its name. Other than that there is nothing new. If you want to upgrade your Emnand you can install the latest GW launcher. In fact I would make a backup of your current Emuand and get 9.7 now before it is unavailable. If you don't want to use it right now you can back it up and revert to your old Emnand.

Btw, I was able to deduce you have an old 3DS But you should make that clear in future posts.

Sorry for not mentioning that. Old 3DS XL is what im currently using.
Ok, so the SDF, im not 100% familiar with what method this is. From what your saying I can inject my saves into say "backup" version of my game on my Gateway. Basicially I have 3 or 4 physical cartridge based games (Bravely, Smash, Pokemon, Zelda ALBW) that I would love to have running on my Gateway with the saves intack, all while being on a version of Gateway (3+, with the 4.5 downgrade inplace)

Is this possible, if so, what exactly is the SDF?
 

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Sorry for not mentioning that. Old 3DS XL is what im currently using.
Ok, so the SDF, im not 100% familiar with what method this is. From what your saying I can inject my saves into say "backup" version of my game on my Gateway. Basicially I have 3 or 4 physical cartridge based games (Bravely, Smash, Pokemon, Zelda ALBW) that I would love to have running on my Gateway with the saves intack, all while being on a version of Gateway (3+, with the 4.5 downgrade inplace)

Is this possible, if so, what exactly is the SDF?
SDF is savedatafiler, it is part of the dev tools. It extracts/injects saves in unencrypted format. There are guides in the tutorials section on using it. However it does not work with cartridges directly so that is going to be a problem since you are on the old 3ds, the new 3ds can use NTR CFW with cartridges.

I have not been following the scene closely the past couple of weeks so it is possible there is a method with the old 3DS I don't know about. If not then your cartridge saves are toast is you downgrade. Unless, you have access to an exploitable N3DS to extract the saves. That said, Pokemon is a different story as there are tools to work with it, but I am not familiar with their usage. Just look for posts with Pokemon in the title.
 

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just installed GATEWAY 3.2.1 ULTRA PUBLIC BETA,
is it safe to update the emunand so i can use the eshop/ play online again?

srry but i missed the scene a few months....
 

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This is more related to homebrew, but would the 3DS be powerful enough to emulate N64 games? I know the PSP was able to do that, although not too well, but to my knowledge the 3DS is a more powerful system.
 

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On an Old 3DS, you can run the latest System Version by using emuNand. Using the Gateway menu, select "Setup Emunand", and it will reformat the card along with a 1GB partition, and copy your sysNand to that partition. Then you can update the emuNand to be on the latest firmware while not locking yourself out of the Gateway menu. There are several threads about emuNands, but I'd be happy to explain anything if you still have any questions.

Thanks, I think I got emunand up and running now. I do have questions about CIA files though. I was reading a guide which said I could format my 3ds without the SD card in it, (and then reinstall the blue card exploit) which will "seperate" sysnand and emunand which would then fix the gift box bug and let me go to data management without deleting everything I installed. What's the gift box bug and is this procedure recommended?

Also, do I need to customize each cia file for my system? Or are CIA files universal for each 3ds without modification?
Lastly, since CIA files are installed on the SD card, I think I might need to upgrade my current one. Is it ok to just drag and drop everything from my old SD card to my new one? Or since emunand is on a different partition, I'm guessing I need to reinstall emunand on a new SD card?
 

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just installed GATEWAY 3.2.1 ULTRA PUBLIC BETA,
is it safe to update the emunand so i can use the eshop/ play online again?

srry but i missed the scene a few months....
It is not safe unless you give us more information about your system to go on so we can give you an informed answer.

I have a 4.x console, already installed gateway 3.2.1 and did the update through the settings menu. Now when i enter the eshop it asks again for an update. Is it safe to update the eshop?
What version number is settings menu showing for emunand? Are you sure you were in emunand when you entered eshop?

If I want to upgrade a microSD with installed CIA using PastaCFW, do I just copy all the files to the new microSD?
That is only part of the process. You need to get Emnand on the new card as well.
There are two ways to go about this. Option one is to format emunand on the new card. Then backup up the old emuand with Emunand Tool then inject it into the new card. Then copy over the contents.
Option two is use the methods described in the sticky in the same section as this thread.

Is there a public way to dump dev cartridges?
I don't know what a dev cartridge is. Gateway can dump cartridges, if there is a non flashcart method you might want to ask in one of the other subs.
 

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I have a 4.x console, already installed gateway 3.2.1 and did the update through the settings menu. Now when i enter the eshop it asks again for an update. Is it safe to update the eshop?
 

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If I want to upgrade a microSD with installed CIA using PastaCFW, do I just copy all the files to the new microSD?
 
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