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Yes and yes. I will leave the answers to others that know more but the consensus seems to be Gateway is favored due to many more options. If you just wanted simple plug and play and don't mind taking awhile to cycle through the roms (you have to press a button each time to switch), Sky3DS does seems pretty easy to use.

I sort of enjoy all the more advanced stuff and homebrew though so Gateway was the choice for me.

YMMV.


What options does Gateway have that Sky3DS doesn't?

Also, how difficult is Gateway to setup and use?
 

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What options does Gateway have that Sky3DS doesn't?

Also, how difficult is Gateway to setup and use?


I just know that you can install cia's, you have emunand, and other options....

And as far as sky, it doesnt have the ability to do emunand... but it does work with the current firmware. whereas with gateway, you have to be 9.2 or lower

sky is as easy as inserting your cartridge in the console....

with gateway, you have to run the exploit, but thats also easy to do.
 

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I just know that you can install cia's, you have emunand, and other options....

And as far as sky, it doesnt have the ability to do emunand... but it does work with the current firmware. whereas with gateway, you have to be 9.2 or lower

sky is as easy as inserting your cartridge in the console....

with gateway, you have to run the exploit, but thats also easy to do.


What are CIAs?

I just bought a *new* 3DS XL from Walmart (got it bundled with Monster Hunter 4 for a $20 discount)

Does Gateway work with the New 3DS XL?

When you say 9.2 or lower, are you talking about firmware version or retail version?

Sorry for the questions, but I am new to DS/3DS/etc stuff. I haven't owned a Nintendo handheld since GBA color. I am more of a PSP/PSV guy, but NDS has a bunch of games I want to play.
 

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What are CIAs?

I just bought a *new* 3DS XL from Walmart (got it bundled with Monster Hunter 4 for a $20 discount)

Does Gateway work with the New 3DS XL?

When you say 9.2 or lower, are you talking about firmware version or retail version?

Sorry for the questions, but I am new to DS/3DS/etc stuff. I haven't owned a Nintendo handheld since GBA color. I am more of a PSP/PSV guy, but NDS has a bunch of games I want to play.


Good deal.

Yes gateway works on the new 3ds xl.

9.2 firmware or lower. - Go to settings and it will be on the upper screen on bottom right side.
 

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Alright I finally was able to update to Gateway 3.1.1. Also I updated my emunand via the rom method. Now STEAM actually loads! The only thing I did differently, to trigger the ability to update, was pressing up when loading an icon in the gateway menu. What does pressing up do to effect the system?
GW has FW spoofing so roms can actual run on lower FW than the game requires, as sometimes the requiremnt is artificial. By default GW prevents the automatic upgrading of the FW that would normally occure with retail carts. Pressing up on the Dpad disables that function so you can update emunand from the rom.

is there a way to install eshop stuff to sysnand for people who have a gateway and oot on a 9.0 u n3ds ll
Yes you can install cia (eshop) to sysnad but in general it is better to install them to emunand. dev menu/bigbluemenu is the tool.

What are CIAs?

I just bought a *new* 3DS XL from Walmart (got it bundled with Monster Hunter 4 for a $20 discount)

Does Gateway work with the New 3DS XL?

When you say 9.2 or lower, are you talking about firmware version or retail version?

Sorry for the questions, but I am new to DS/3DS/etc stuff. I haven't owned a Nintendo handheld since GBA color. I am more of a PSP/PSV guy, but NDS has a bunch of games I want to play.
Cia is the file format for eshop titles, updates, DLC. Basically programs that run from the internal mSD card rather than a cart.

As MWG said check your firmware version if it is 9.2 or below you are good for gateway, if not take it back and look for a different one or your only choice is Sky.

What options does Gateway have that Sky3DS doesn't?

Also, how difficult is Gateway to setup and use?
Gateway is simple to set up and use in its basic intended configuration. It gets complicated when you move to more advanced setups for things like homebrew, save game editing, custom firmware (CFW) etc. it probably takes an hour or so to set it up mostly just formatting emunand and backing things up, copying roms etc. Take a look at the usermanual in the downloads section of gateways web site.

Sky plays games and that is it, nothing else. No rom dumping, homebrew, save editing rom hacking and probably a bunch of other stuff the hardcore propeller heads get into. :)
 

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not what I meant, I want to download eshop software updates so they work on sysnand without going to classic mode
Do so at your own risk. :)

Remove the mSD from the 3ds then boot Gateway mode as you normally would. You are now in Gateway mode and sysnand without emunand. Put the mSD card back in and then install your content. Optionally some people use a second Sd card for this, though it is a pain taking plate off a n3ds everytime you want to switch.
 

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Cia is the file format for eshop titles, updates, DLC. Basically programs that run from the internal mSD card rather than a cart.

As MWG said check your firmware version if it is 9.2 or below you are good for gateway, if not take it back and look for a different one or your only choice is Sky.


Gateway is simple to set up and use in its basic intended configuration. It gets complicated when you move to more advanced setups for things like homebrew, save game editing, custom firmware (CFW) etc. it probably takes an hour or so to set it up mostly just formatting emunand and backing things up, copying roms etc. Take a look at the usermanual in the downloads section of gateways web site.

Sky plays games and that is it, nothing else. No rom dumping, homebrew, save editing rom hacking and probably a bunch of other stuff the hardcore propeller heads get into. :)


Hm. Well, I don't much care for homebrews (I know, blasphemy!). However, you got me interested in the DLC aspect.

I ordered my N3DS online, so when I get it next week I will see what my options are.
 

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Do so at your own risk. :)

Remove the mSD from the 3ds then boot Gateway mode as you normally would. You are now in Gateway mode and sysnand without emunand. Put the mSD card back in and then install your content. Optionally some people use a second Sd card for this, though it is a pain taking plate off a n3ds everytime you want to switch.
no I just want to actualy download stuff from e-shop chanell like dlc on a regular or new 3ds and the stuff I download from the e-shop is usable in sysnand
 

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no I just want to actualy download stuff from e-shop chanell like dlc on a regular or new 3ds and the stuff I download from the e-shop is usable in sysnand
Then Gateway is not for you. In order to access the eshop you must be on the current firmware (right now 9.6) GW is only compatible with 9.2 sysnand and 9.5 emunand.

Hm. Well, I don't much care for homebrews (I know, blasphemy!). However, you got me interested in the DLC aspect.

I ordered my N3DS online, so when I get it next week I will see what my options are.
For the most part homebrew has kind of lost its appeal over time for me as well. My phone is much better at a lot those functions.
 

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I just want to double check before I go for the plunge, I think I'm right but I want to make sure.

So with a 3DSXL, on firmware 8.0.0-18E, if I buy a gateway 3DS, I can play 3DS roms, from any region right? With just that, gateway 3ds and an SD card?

And http://www.gateway-3ds.com/ is the official gateway sight right? Some of it's out dated just want to make sure.

Cheers.
 

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I know that but im just asking if there is a way to theoricaly do it now (like if emunand 9.6 is supported) because when I was using my gateway in the beginning stuff I downloaded from emunad e-shop worked on sysnand
You can check out RxTools, they have 9.6 running but I recall it is limited. In theory if you had a functioning 9.6 emunand with eshop access and your emuand and sysnand were linked all the content would be accessible, in theory. I dont use sysnand for anything so I have never tried.

Why is this so important to you?
 

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I'm trying to move an Animal Crossing: NL save from a N3DS to an original 3DS. Both are updated to 9.6 (so no GW) and both have the eShop version, not the retail cart. I currently have the desired save data sitting on my PC. I think the Anti-Savegame Restore "feature" is my last hurdle. Am I missing some way to fool it into accepting the data? Because I'm really quite stuck.
 

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I'm trying to move an Animal Crossing: NL save from a N3DS to an original 3DS. Both are updated to 9.6 (so no GW) and both have the eShop version, not the retail cart. I currently have the desired save data sitting on my PC. I think the Anti-Savegame Restore "feature" is my last hurdle. Am I missing some way to fool it into accepting the data? Because I'm really quite stuck.


You can't.
 

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im just trying to see if there is a way I can play retail games with latest software updates on sysnand without the need to switch carts 3 times especialy for the mewtwo update that's coming up for smash
I would check out the threads on "legitimate cias" and see if the games you want to play can be installed.

If you want to use a retail cart as long as it does not require a higher firmware than your sysnand it will play. I told you how to install updates and DLC to sysnand via cia. I do not understand your insistence on downloading that content directly from the eshop. I don't think that is possibe but you could start a thread and ask.

Also my family has 3 n3ds and each console generally goes for a few days before we have to rerun the exploit and usually that is by choice as we want to play a DS game from an r4. I don't really understand your card switching issue.
 
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