3DS Custom Firmware by Smealum

Discussion in '3DS - Flashcards & Custom Firmwares' started by mainframe004, Oct 13, 2013.

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  1. the_randomizer

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    The more people that hack the 3DS the better
     
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  2. SifJar

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    No, that just happens to be how smealum runs DS-mode code to alter the DS profile name. A 3DS-compatible DS-mode flash card will be perfectly sufficient. (smealum just doesn't have one, so he uses an exploit he wrote for Bangai-O). After that is done (one time thing), everything else is loaded from SD card.

    No altered ROM required for smealum's stuff, just a piece of DS-mode homebrew to modify the DS profile name. I was under the impression this was the same as Gateway, so perhaps you are just using slightly inaccurate terminology. "altered ROM" would imply a commercial game which has been modified somehow, and I don't think that is involved or necessary for Gateway, and it certainly isn't for smealum's version of the exploit.
     
  3. weatMod

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    seriously you people have no idea what expensive is ,my first backup device was a bung gamedoctor sf for snes i got the 32 gidabit version it was like 4 or 5 hundred
    80 is not that expensive
     
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  4. kyogre123

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    I was indeed wrong with the altered ROM part, Gateway uses a code disguised as a DS ROM, so it can be freely loaded with any DSi Flashcard.
     
  5. OldClassicGamer

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    Not all people have same amount of money. While I can pay 80 of course, I do agree that it would be better if there was cheaper or free alternative. I would pay 80 for GateWay if it could work on all firmwares though.
     
  6. the_randomizer

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    More people that hack the system, the better in the long run. Not to mention more will understand it as time goes on and the potentiality for other firmwares would open up too. So maybe it's good that there are clones after all...?
     
  7. Dartz150

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    There is something that I don't undersatand very clearly... How did the Hacker teams, let's say for example, the staff behinf the PSP scene to find new exploits in newer firmwares? Did they used some sort of RAM testing or monitoring every second of executable official code in order to catch any flaw? If so, is there a possibiility of this to be done on the 3DS in order to find a new exploit on 6.3?
     
  8. Duo8

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  9. the_randomizer

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    I'll just omit that part and mention only that "the more people that hack, the better"
     
  10. Boy12

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    I (think) i read somewhere, that when they have full Kernel Acces (which they did have with the PSP), you can basically look through the programming code. So finding exploits is MUCH easier this way. But don't take this info for a 100%, this is just what i remember reading somewhere.
     
  11. FAST6191

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    Methods vary wildly. There are those that would spend hours playing with hardware that costs more than most make in a year, or spend equally large amounts of time to build said hardware that usually would cost the silly money to do the same, there are those that would analyse software on a step by step basis, there are those that would figure out what it is based on (if a flaw in linux is discovered it might well apply to android or any of the embedded devices that run linux -- bam you have root, control and more) and there are those that would analyse software using more static methods. You can and probably will build on what came before and you probably will also get to pass the torch on after your talent* or enthusiasm runs dry. Net advantages to any one method are difficult to call other than more knowledge usually works well, about the only times it does not is when you convince yourself something can not be done because of what came before (RGH on the 360 had something like this, there are several examples in general maths, tech and science over the years). Likewise once you have an in you can often keep the hole open, even if it requires that initial hole to get in there.

    *the one to observe a bunch of assembly and figure out entry points may not be the same the ports/makes various libraries dealing with hardware for the system which in turn may not be the ones that port higher level libraries like SDL.

    There is a hacking concepts and links thread, it is not quite a gentle entry into it as much as a glossary and some slightly more in depth explanations at times though.
    http://gbatemp.net/threads/some-hacking-concepts-and-links.287721/
     
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  12. spinal_cord

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    My 3DS is currently up -to-date and theres no way I'm going out and buying another one in hopes of creating 3DS homebrew one day. If ever a 6.x exploit is figured out and homebrew coding libs released then I might jump on board, but until then, I'm happy coding for other devices.
    Did I not read someplace that it was illegal to stop homebrew on a system, or have I misread something or other?
     
  13. Quincy

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    I think you are confused with the whole PS3 "OtherOS" situation. Sony removed that feature, and got into a lawsuit because of that, because they removed a feature that was advertised and that people payed for. People seem to think that they got sued for removing "homebrew" instead of the earlier. Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  14. spinal_cord

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    I think it was more along the lines of Nintendo (and others of course) cant legally stop unlicensed software from being run on their consoles, so they incorporate copywrited material in the security checks so that although you can legally write software for a system, you cant install it on the system without including copywrited material. Something like that anyway. eg any gameboy software has to include the copywrited (Gameboy) logo in the rom for it to run, but you can really do that because its protected.
     
  15. SifJar

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    There are interoperability laws, which is how stuff like action replay devices etc exist and are sold legally. Not sure of the full ramifications, but it's not illegal for them to remove homebrew, or they'd have gotten in trouble for removing HBC in wii updates
     
  16. smealum

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    what the fuck are you talking about
     
  17. Filous

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    this guy said the same thing in another thread. just your regular attention whore troll.
     
  18. DJ91990

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    I think it's cool that the 3DS is gaining some interest in the hacking community. I don't think I'd apply said hacks to my system mainly because I don't want to be inconvienced by having an update that is required to play a spicific game block the hacks and render my system a brick. Perhaps if these hacks actually amount to something useful (like playing 3DS ROMs outside of a given region code) I'll apply the hacks when the 3DS is towards the end of it's lifespan.

    I could hack the 3DS, I'll I need as a 3DS that nobody cares about, and a hammer. The results: $200.00 well spent *cough* *snicker* *burst out laughing* and a "hacked" 3DS...that is, hacked into pieces. LOL.
     
  19. kalimero

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    You can't use the hack if you update your 3DS now or later. But with the hack you can disable updates and Region Lock and still play newer games.
     
  20. Filous

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    Question : with your hack, smealum, can we put japanese or european firmware on an american 3ds ?
     
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