1. AkiraKurusu
    AkiraKurusu
    Wait...Manson was just "accused" of abuse? Did they have any, I dunno, evidence to back their claims up (and each claim should be investigated and considered separately - numbers alone don't necessarily help prove anything), or was it just online dogpiling on him?
    Why not take it to the police instead of posting it online?
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    Feb 2, 2021
  2. AkiraKurusu
    AkiraKurusu
    I always roll my eyes at online accusations, since they never uphold the presumption of innocence, nor do they allow the accused to defend himself (it's almost always "him"self, unfortunately). Ergo, they're annoying and worthless - if not *actively harmful*.
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    Feb 2, 2021
  3. Jayro
    Jayro
    Ask the abuse victim, she was there. That's proof enough.
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    Feb 2, 2021
  4. Scott_pilgrim
    Scott_pilgrim
    He's a WHAT
    Feb 2, 2021
  5. AkiraKurusu
    AkiraKurusu
    @Jayro And you could ask me if I was at Longueville Hotel ten months ago and consider that "proof" I was indeed abused by, say, my mother.
    That doesn't compute; that's just taking my word for it. If I could show you receipts from the pub there at the time, photos of bruises or whatnot (that weren't edited) and the pub's CCTV footage, then that would be "proof".
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    Feb 2, 2021
  6. AkiraKurusu
    AkiraKurusu
    None of that happened to me; that was just an example - and VERY FEW of these stupid online accusations have ANY of that stuff, and should thus be rightfully viewed with doubt in order to uphold the presumption of innocence.
    It shouldn't be up to the defense to prove their innocence; it's up to the prosecution to prove guilt beyond any reasonable doubt. That doesn't happen with these idiotic online accusations.
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    Feb 2, 2021
  7. AkiraKurusu
    AkiraKurusu
    As far as I'm concerned, unless actual evidence is released proving a man's (any man's) guilty of abusing women, he'll be innocent in my eyes. THAT is justice.
    Condemning an innocent man is utterly horrendous and unjust, since he cannot recover from that, and the loathsome women who condemned him often get off scot-free or with very minor punishments.
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    Feb 2, 2021
  8. Jayro
    Jayro
    Dude, she literally has nothing to gain from this. I tend to believe the victim over an abuser. It's very rare when someone makes up lies about somebody abusing them. You sound like a republican defending a rapist, and it's not cool. :/
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    Feb 2, 2021
  9. AkiraKurusu
    AkiraKurusu
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIf7w9f202c
    This video contains a lot of research, and clearly explains why it's better *not* to "believe" a supposed victim over a supposed abuser - or, as it's better put, accuser and accused, since nothing's been actually proven yet.
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    Feb 2, 2021