1. ThoD
    ThoD
    B2W2 were just stylish with nothing good to go along with it, added a bunch of crap that was pointless (eg: the movie studio) and had a generic story of friend being a bad guy but not really... As for Sword and Shield, it's stylish, but empty as can be, you know it's lazy when instead of making unique locales they made one huge one with just the same thing over and over like Ubisoft games:P
    Jan 11, 2020
  2. Jiehfeng
    Jiehfeng
    I agree it's lazy and empty but that's all I can agree on haha.
    Jan 11, 2020
  3. AkiraKurusu
    AkiraKurusu
    ThoD
    I respectfully disagree; while forcing PokeStar Studios into plot progression is stupid, some of the later movies you can make there are pretty damn good for what they are. Also, while the story's obviously quite poor compared to other RPGs (e.g. Persona, Fire Emblem), it's quite good for Pokemon - backhanded insult, I guess, but the literal reading is still true.
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  4. AkiraKurusu
    AkiraKurusu
    My only real gripes are the mandatory PokeStar Studio, Pokemon Musical, and Iris being the Champion despite doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OF IMPORTANCE unlike her predecessor Alder (the ONLY thing Iris does is point out where Castelia Sewers is, when the player could've found that via exploration).
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  5. AkiraKurusu
    AkiraKurusu
    On the other hand, the later PokeStar Studios movies are quite good, PWT is awesome, Battle Subway's still as good as ever, Black Tower/White Treehollow are great fun, hidden grottoes allow for Hidden Abilities without Dream World, the Key System was ingenious, Challenge Mode was fantastic, seeing animated Trainer sprites was brilliant.
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  6. AkiraKurusu
    AkiraKurusu
    (the 420-character limit forced multiple comments; I apologise)
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  7. Jiehfeng
    Jiehfeng
    The two games are really one of my favourites of all time, it's hard to describe for me how much I like them.
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  8. ThoD
    ThoD
    Iris going from 8th Gym Leader to Champion was a bit extreme honestly, but hey, at least her champion theme is fairly good lol And I do agree that the whole mechanics around that gadget you got where you could join other people's game and so on were pretty amazing, but overall I hated the generic story of B2/W2, BW were MUCH better story-wise while a little worse in the mechanics department.
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  9. Jiehfeng
    Jiehfeng
    In that regard yeah, the first one definitely had the better story.
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  10. ThoD
    ThoD
    I wish we could get more story twists like the original BW with the league challenge being interrupted by the villains and all that, but nope, in all other games once you reach the league that's it, story's over, perhaps might unlock new areas, but no plot... USUM did have the Rainbow Rocket stuff but I don't consider that plot, just post-game stuff to do since it was basically just couple battles back to back.
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  11. Jiehfeng
    Jiehfeng
    I find that a problem with almost every game I come across sadly, motivation just magically vanishes the moment I complete the story, even though I do plenty of side content and powering up for fun. At that point it's just "what's the damn point...".
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