PAL PS2 phat, can I hack it?

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any help would be appreciated, thanks :)
 

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I personally recommend softmodding if you don't want to take risks of damaging your PS2 with installing a modchip, as those things are impossible to solder onto the motherboard.
 

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thanks

does anyone know if I'll be able to play PS1 games from the MX4SIO FMCB thing? And if so, will it run castlevania symphony of the night at 240p, like it does on PS1?
 
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does anyone know if I'll be able to play PS1 games from the MX4SIO FMCB thing? And if so, will it run castlevania symphony of the night at 240p, like it does on PS1?
There's the POPSTARTER emulator but it's far from perfect. There's a compatibility list that you can check if you just want to play a selection of titles.
Also, since you have a fat it would be a no-brainer to not get a SATA adapter and a hdd, with it you can play PS2 games with the best speed & compatibility. There's the Gamestar that comes with sata port, you just plug a sata hdd to it (though it doesn't have the ethernet port). Or you can get the original OEM network adapter from Sony, and swap the IDE board with a SATA adapter from Aliexpress, and it's easy to setup. It's your choice.
 
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Do these problems with "popstarter" only affect loading from memorycard/USB? if the PS1 game is burned to a CD-R, will it not have those problems?

do the PS1 games run from CD still launch with this popstarter?

I notice there are fixes, sometimes, if a game has problems:

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Do these problems with "popstarter" only affect loading from memorycard/USB?
As you can see in the pic that you've posted, issues can happen with all of them (USB, SMB, and internal HDD). It advises you to use a different POPSTARTER version, because with each new version something get fixed and other gets broken. Though i think the non beta versions are generally preferred but i don't really remember for sure..
You need to check for each game, now internal hdd has the best compatibility like i mentioned, though you'd still find some that works fine with usb and not hdd (albeit rare)..
And the emulator is not perfect (like i mentioned), and it's no longer an active project..
if the PS1 game is burned to a CD-R, will it not have those problems?
Yes. If you have a modchip and a functioning laser that reads CD-R's, it would play any ps1 game with perfect compatibility (because it's not emulation).
do the PS1 games run from CD still launch with this popstarter?
No, POPSTARTER is an emulator.. so when you use a PS1 disc, the PS1 hardware that's inside the PS2 will read from the disc just like a normal PS1.
 

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Since the others already answered that...

If you buy a component cable, don't buy those cheap ass $5 ones since the picture will go black when you least expect it and doesn't look anywhere near as good as it can.

A genuine Sony or HD Retrovision cable is pricey, but well worth it.
 
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arghh, so you're telling me there isn't really a proper loader to play PS1 games on PS2, after 22 years? and popstarter is an emulator, are you sure it's not a loader? why would sony make a PS1 emulator for PS2, when it can already natively play PS1 games?

I thought there would be something the equivalent of nintendont (like were you can play gamecube games on a wii) or nds bootstrap (where you can run DS roms on a 3DS)

:(:sad:
 

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arghh, so you're telling me there isn't really a proper loader to play PS1 games on PS2, after 22 years? and popstarter is an emulator, are you sure it's not a loader? why would sony make a PS1 emulator for PS2, when it can already natively play PS1 games?

I thought there would be something the equivalent of nintendont (like were you can play gamecube games on a wii) or nds bootstrap (where you can run DS roms on a 3DS)

:(:sad:
I believe when PS2 goes in PS1 mode when you put a CD it actually behave like a native PS1 so USB, ETH and HDD won't even be recognized.
Popstarter was abandonned by his creator but there is still one guy working on fixes on a spanish only forum, he is still producing fixes for games. A lot of games works correctly in this emulator and there is even cheats for 240p over component if your TV doesn't support it and you can also smooth textures and a lot more.
 
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Since I'm also a noob and I want to hack a PAL PS2, can I run US or Japanese PS2 games from HDD , on my PAL Fat PS2 without any problem ?
I'm asking this because I love to play Japanese shmups and I want to avoid the "50 Hz horror effect"....
 

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Since I'm also a noob and I want to hack a PAL PS2, can I run US or Japanese PS2 games from HDD , on my PAL Fat PS2 without any problem ?
I'm asking this because I love to play Japanese shmups and I want to avoid the "50 Hz horror effect"....

PAL PS2 is fine for 60hz PS2 jap/US games. imo, simple to install ESR and ESR patch the PS2 ISO and burn it to DVD-R (only FMCB card is needed for this)

only the PS1 games are a pain
 

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If you care about it at all, your console should be compatible with MechaPwn, which can allow playing backups and out of regions discs easily and without patching.
https://github.com/MechaResearch/MechaPwn

This is one of the benefits of having an SCPH-50000 series over the older revisions.
However, DVD playback will likely break if you do this, and can only be reliably fixed by putting a DVD Player update file on the memory card.
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I personally recommend softmodding if you don't want to take risks of damaging your PS2 with installing a modchip, as those things are impossible to solder onto the motherboard.
With MechaPwn + FreeMCBoot, there's really no good reason to chip a SCPH-50000+ model PS2, imo.
 
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As an addendum to my post, there are some quirks with playing out of region discs on PAL consoles w/ MechaPwn. Read the github for more info. Technically the best fat PS2 is the NTSC-U version of the 50000 series (SCPH-50001) because it doesn't suffer from the same issues.

Still, you should be able to launch PAL copies of games on burnt discs if that's something you care about, and without a modchip.

This might also be fixed in one of the beta builds, but I'm not positive.
 
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arghh, so you're telling me there isn't really a proper loader to play PS1 games on PS2, after 22 years? and popstarter is an emulator, are you sure it's not a loader? why would sony make a PS1 emulator for PS2, when it can already natively play PS1 games?

I thought there would be something the equivalent of nintendont (like were you can play gamecube games on a wii) or nds bootstrap (where you can run DS roms on a 3DS)

:(:sad:
The actual reasoning is FMCB uses a fault on PS1 memory card retrocompatiblity layer for PS2. Once you get FMCB setted up there is no way to reliably run PS1 games BUT! If you have a working laser and get the FMCB memory card out you can use a PS1 exploit (tonyhax is a great example) to run PS1 games from there at full compatibilty, no modchip.
 
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The actual reasoning is FMCB uses a fault on PS1 memory card retrocompatiblity layer for PS2. Once you get FMCB setted up there is no way to reliably run PS1 games BUT! If you have a working laser and get the FMCB memory card out you can use a PS1 exploit (tonyhax is a great example) to run PS1 games from there at full compatibilty, no modchip.

I think tonyhax doesn't work on later PS2, it's not compatible with mine.

I did initially try to use POPS, which is terrible for castlevania SOTN (tried beta 17, cheats.txt, $afemode, compat 1/2, the whole nine yards). crashes all the time. wouldn't trust POPS as far as I could code it myself)

then I bought a real PAL PS1 game and disabled autoboot, and used launchelf to stop the disk and a slide card with a burned CD-R, then launch PS2DISK from MISC. This works for playing PAL games at 50hz, totally (but you can't force 60hz 240p with GSM with SOTN or else you have half the screen blank)

honestly? I never imagined it was so much trouble to do a simple thing as run a PS1 game on a PS2. but at least now I can run SOTN on my PS2, natively, albeit in 50hz mode on my PVM CRT. oh, but I can't save my game, it turns out you need an original PS1 memory card for that, naturally :rofl2:

if any european is reading this, and is starting a fresh, and just wanna play PS1 in 60hz 240p? let me save you a lot of time....make damn sure you get either original american PS1 and use tonyhax, or get american PS2 (SCPH-7500X and above) and use mechapwn with DEX

edit- after trying out the mechapwn DEX option, it seems the PAL 50003 PS2 does work with PS1 backups, no real PS1 game needed as a swap-out and no slide card (manual sneaky removal of the disk) needed to boot the game.

I wonder if I can now switch the region of my console with the CEX option, then install the DEX option for that region afterwards, in order to play the USA region PS1 CD-R?

or would that brick the console?
 
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