GOP Traffics illegal immigrant into washington

LainaGabranth · Sep 29, 2022

sombrerosonic said:
Stupid question but is there any proof for it? sry if im asking to much, using most of my CPU power for other things like helping a guy with his 3DS

https://www.wionews.com/world/democ...tive-to-trump-wall-in-shutdown-impasse-192380
Similar to the previous article I linked, it mentions at the bottom that Trump would repeatedly refuse to pay attention to any bills that came to him that weren't related to funding his meme wall. He refused to budge when Democrats actively tried to work with him, and because of his temper tantrum over it there is now no wall.

The Catboy · Sep 29, 2022

Neo Draven said:
But that is NOT what we are talking about, ma'am. What we are talking about is the false accusation that the GOP broke a law by "trafficking humans".

I would love to sit here and discuss solutions to the ILLEGAL immigration crisis that we are facing, but I don't think you have any solutions besides, "Make it easier".

Glass houses, sister. It's easy for YOU to say because you live here. What are your solutions? All I've heard are recriminations.

And there we go again, disrespecting me. You don’t want to have a conversation, you just want to be an asshole and expect to be treated with respect

CraddaPoosta · Sep 29, 2022

The Catboy said:
And there we go again, disrespecting me. You don’t want to have a conversation, you just want to be an asshole and expect to be treated with respect

I didn't treat you with disrespect. Every term I used was either one of respect or one of endearment.

LainaGabranth · Sep 29, 2022

The Catboy said:
And there we go again, disrespecting me. You don’t want to have a conversation, you just want to be an asshole and expect to be treated with respect

Which is why the only correct position is not to be respectful. No one pretends to hold a position like "I want minorities shot at the border" for attention without being a bad person.

Xzi · Sep 29, 2022

LainaGabranth said:
https://www.wionews.com/world/democ...tive-to-trump-wall-in-shutdown-impasse-192380
Similar to the previous article I linked, it mentions at the bottom that Trump would repeatedly refuse to pay attention to any bills that came to him that weren't related to funding his meme wall. He refused to budge when Democrats actively tried to work with him, and because of his temper tantrum over it there is now no wall.

Well, there is SOME wall, but that's because Trump took funds earmarked for emergency response from the military to build it. The irony of Republicans defunding the military for a vanity project is pretty damn tasty, IMO.

CraddaPoosta · Sep 29, 2022

Xzi said:
What the fuck are you on about now? I already told you, whether they crossed legally or illegally is irrelevant, it doesn't change how the crime of human trafficking is defined.

No they were fucking not. The states they were sent to had no clue they were coming, and they were dropped off in random neighborhoods, not immigrant processing centers. Complete randos rallied around them to help take care of them until they could be taken to the right place, but that changes nothing about the crimes committed by Abbott and DeSantis. Just admit that you're a hypocrite who's fine with crime as long as it's being committed by Republican big-wigs.

It IS relevant when you have SANCTUARY CITIES AND SANCTUARY STATES.

Any designation declaring themselves to be such should be more than well-equipped to handle any criminals who are sent their way. The only reason Martha's Vineyard declared itself to be a sanctuary city is because there isn't a horde of illegal criminal immigrants showing up at their doorstep...

Until there WAS one. And now you see your true colors, shining through. Ship 'em off, right? No lobster for YOU. YOU get to go to a military base, because WE have no jobs or housing for you.

Tee to the motherfucking hee. I am sitting back and loving watching you self destruct from your own hypocrisy.

The Catboy · Sep 29, 2022

Neo Draven said:
I didn't treat you with disrespect. Every term I used was either one of respect or one of endearment.

Cute that you think that but it’s obvious what the intentions are. Pretending that they are “terms of endearment,” doesn’t change the obvious reason why you used them. But I am not shocked, you can pretend to be the good person here but you aren’t. You are an asshole

CraddaPoosta · Sep 29, 2022

Xzi said:
Well, there is SOME wall, but that's because Trump took funds earmarked for emergency response from the military to build it. The irony of Republicans defunding the military for a vanity project is pretty damn tasty, IMO.

$801 billion budget. They can give up a few bucks. Maybe some of the BILLIONS we uselessly sent to Ukraine could have gone towards border defense.

That money ( at least $54 billion, wasn't it?) would have built hundreds of hospitals in America to help disabled veterans. Thousands of high schools. But, feelings.

Xzi · Sep 29, 2022

Neo Draven said:
It IS relevant when you have SANCTUARY CITIES AND SANCTUARY STATES.

That would only be relevant if the migrants traveled there by their own means and of their own free will. Abbott and DeSantis funded the journey on a bus across state lines, thus making them felons. End of story. All there is left to discuss is whether or not you support that kind of criminality, and based on how long you've chosen to draw this out, I think we can all assume that yes, you do.

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Frank Wilhoit

CraddaPoosta · Sep 29, 2022

The Catboy said:
Cute that you think that but it’s obvious what the intentions are. Pretending that they are “terms of endearment,” doesn’t change the obvious reason why you used them. But I am not shocked, you can pretend to be the good person here but you aren’t. You are an asshole

I was raised in the South, properly. I was raised to refer to all women as "Ma'am" and all men as "Sir".

If I feel comfortable enough around you, I will call you "brother" or "sister".

I am sorry for overstepping my boundaries. "Ma'am" it is.

sombrerosonic · Sep 29, 2022

LainaGabranth said:
https://www.wionews.com/world/democ...tive-to-trump-wall-in-shutdown-impasse-192380
Similar to the previous article I linked, it mentions at the bottom that Trump would repeatedly refuse to pay attention to any bills that came to him that weren't related to funding his meme wall. He refused to budge when Democrats actively tried to work with him, and because of his temper tantrum over it there is now no wall.

Well, partially there IS one but was never completed due to the biden administration shutting it down

CraddaPoosta · Sep 29, 2022

Xzi said:
That would only be relevant if the migrants traveled there by their own means and of their own free will. Abbott and DeSantis funded the journey on a bus across state lines, thus making them felons. End of story. All there is left to discuss is whether or not you support that kind of criminality, and based on how long you've chosen to draw this out, I think we can all assume that yes, you do.

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Frank Wilhoit

They DID travel there by their own means, by their own free will.

Had they not illegally invaded a sovereign nation as criminals, they would have wherewithal to go where they pleased. But they didn't. Because they are all entitled criminals who didn't want to come here the right way.

They are not worthy to be Americans. They need to GO HOME. But you would have bitched about that, too.

I notice you ignored my question about what would happen to you and your daughter if you got busted for DUI. That did not slip by me. That was not a rhetorical question, and you still dodged it.

The Catboy · Sep 29, 2022

Neo Draven said:
I was raised in the South, properly. I was raised to refer to all women as "Ma'am" and all men as "Sir".

If I feel comfortable enough around you, I will call you "brother" or "sister".

I am sorry for overstepping my boundaries. "Ma'am" it is.

Considering the fact that I am not a woman, I would say this just thinly veiled disrespect that’s piggybacking off Southern hospitality. Regardless, you are being disrespectful towards me.

LainaGabranth · Sep 29, 2022

Xzi said:
Well, there is SOME wall, but that's because Trump took funds earmarked for emergency response from the military to build it. The irony of Republicans defunding the military for a vanity project is pretty damn tasty, IMO.

Republicans don't give a shit about our servicemen beyond how many can be sent into meatgrinders for Israel or the military industrial complex. At the end of the day it's all the same shit. Republicans will larp and posture about the "crisis at the border" but there isn't one, they just beat the fucking drum by doing publicity stunts like this trafficking shit just to get racists and fascists or fascist sympathizers to agree with them. Ghoul behavior.

Deleted member 586536 · Sep 29, 2022

Neo Draven said:
They DID travel there by their own means, by their own free will.

Your stretching free by like 8 miles, if you think being mislead to hell and back is "free will"

LainaGabranth · Sep 29, 2022

sombrerosonic said:
Well, partially there IS one but was never completed due to the biden administration shutting it down

GOOD. It literally would have taken at least three terms to even complete, and it would have wasted billions upon billions of tax payer dollars for something that literally doesn't even work.

Xzi · Sep 29, 2022

Nothereed said:
Your stretching free by like 8 miles, if you think being mislead to hell and back is "free will"

He also said it was "by their own means." Does he think the migrants own the bus they traveled on? No, he just has nothing but bad faith arguments left in him. Like still clinging to the lie that he's "not a Republican," despite arguing on their behalf for six straight pages (plus several other threads). What a clown.

sombrerosonic · Sep 29, 2022

LainaGabranth said:
GOOD. It literally would have taken at least three terms to even complete, and it would have wasted billions upon billions of tax payer dollars for something that literally doesn't even work.

It seems like everyone in this thread is overheating, Make sure to cool down as hate and stress can overheat your prossesor, make sure you cool down. with a pepsi However, it seems like it could of worked or was a political stance by him to get even more support

LainaGabranth · Sep 29, 2022

sombrerosonic said:
It seems like everyone in this thread is overheating, Make sure to cool down as hate and stress can overheat your prossesor, make sure you cool down. with a pepsi However, it seems like it could of worked or was a political stance by him to get even more support

It doesn't work, because contrary to the myths of the right, most people in the country aren't here because they snuck over the border. The vast majority of "illegal" immigration is from people who come here on visas, and then just don't leave. Whether that's because they refuse to, or because they don't even know it's expired (a common issue as well), that's up for sociologists to study. Here's some studies on the topic if you want more info.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...anging-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/

The whole outrage over "illegal" immigration is wholly manufactured. These people still pay taxes, put in their labor, and so on and so forth. I say just fuckin' naturalize em all. They contribute more to the country than people mad about brown people do.

Deleted member 114266 · Sep 29, 2022

LainaGabranth said:
It doesn't work, because contrary to the myths of the right, most people in the country aren't here because they snuck over the border. The vast majority of "illegal" immigration is from people who come here on visas, and then just don't leave. Whether that's because they refuse to, or because they don't even know it's expired (a common issue as well), that's up for sociologists to study. Here's some studies on the topic if you want more info.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...anging-u-s-unauthorized-immigrant-population/

The whole outrage over "illegal" immigration is wholly manufactured. These people still pay taxes, put in their labor, and so on and so forth. I say just fuckin' naturalize em all. They contribute more to the country than people mad about brown people do.

But weren't you complaining they were being paid below minimum wage? Many, many of the jobs are get paid in cash and never reported or taxed.

We also tried the naturalize them all approach before. But a country can't continue doing that every few years. The promised immigration reforms never appeared.

I also have to question that pew research article stating 10-11 million. Newer numbers are now saying it is likely closer to 20 million though there will never be a way to get a 100% accurate count. That means perhaps 6% of people living in the US are here illegally.

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