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Question, With the new law in place, wouldn't they move all immigrants to sanctuary states? also i thought that the problem was HUGE

I believe ICE started it in 2002? i think?
2003 and I am talking more about the most recent issues like the literal concentration camps and putting kids in cages. They apparently didn’t do all of that until the Obama era.
 

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You know, I may have been wrong about you. You DO play fair.

Most of the time, these topics derail immediately as soon as a conservative shows up, and they get roundly bashed by everyone, and no one gets checked. It's usually the same culprits. It's actually always the same culprits. Always.

Anyway, thanks for proving me wrong. Perception altered.

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Never judge a book by its cover.
I LOVE being proven wrong.

The cool thing is, once someone proves you wrong once about a specific topic or issue, you can never be proven wrong again because you own the truth. I consider it a gift to be proven wrong, not a blow to the ego.

Thank you for that gift.
 

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Small correction, this was started under the Obama administration but was amped up under Trump and still happening under Biden. None of them are free of sin on this one
Correct, but the blame for the amping lies with Trump where it was at its most unethical, which was moreso the point of my post. The dems are complicit with evil of course.

Question, With the new law in place, wouldn't they move all immigrants to sanctuary states? also i thought that the problem was HUGE
To my knowledge there's a lot of red tape involved with people, mainly psychos on the right, trying to obstruct it and keep them in camps instead. Like, words cannot describe the human rights nightmare that our border is right now because of these incredibly racist policies.
 

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Correct, but the blame for the amping lies with Trump where it was at its most unethical, which was moreso the point of my post. The dems are complicit with evil of course.
That’s why small correction UωU I often find people putting the blame squarely on Trump. He is to blame for the current state of affairs but can’t ignore where it started or where it’s going. Plus, kids are still in cages and it’s frustrating and fucked up that Biden hasn’t done shit and most people have stopped talking about that. Seriously, these distractions with obvious fake immigration problem is contributing to kids still being in cages.
 

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That’s why small correction UωU I often find people putting the blame squarely on Trump. He is to blame for the current state of affairs but can’t ignore where it started or where it’s going. Plus, kids are still in cages and it’s frustrating and fucked up that Biden hasn’t done shit and most people have stopped talking about that. Seriously, these distractions with obvious fake immigration problem is contributing to kids still being in cages.
I imagine that in a few months once the Roe shit is no longer milkable by Pelosi she'll move to some moronic shit like "DONATE TO THE DNC TO GET THE KIDS OUT OF CAGES!!!" when the kids are in cages...because the DNC isn't getting rid of them.
 

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That’s why small correction UωU I often find people putting the blame squarely on Trump. He is to blame for the current state of affairs but can’t ignore where it started or where it’s going. Plus, kids are still in cages and it’s frustrating and fucked up that Biden hasn’t done shit and most people have stopped talking about that. Seriously, these distractions with obvious fake immigration problem is contributing to kids still being in cages.
Obama put those kids in cages, sooo...

Biden/Barry Hussein 2.0 has done nothing about it. And his cackling cuckold has not handled a single bit of the problem she was assigned to take care of. Why? Why does she not care until they are in HER yard?
 

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I imagine that in a few months once the Roe shit is no longer milkable by Pelosi she'll move to some moronic shit like "DONATE TO THE DNC TO GET THE KIDS OUT OF CAGES!!!" when the kids are in cages...because the DNC isn't getting rid of them.
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Obama put those kids in cages, sooo...

Biden/Barry Hussein 2.0 has done nothing about it. And his cackling cuckold has not handled a single bit of the problem she was assigned to take care of. Why? Why does she not care until they are in HER yard?
Did you not read my post? This feels like you didn’t read my post. Either that or you are agree with me on questioning why Biden hasn’t done anything about the kids in cages. Why is the very issue I am am bringing up and would like people to draw their attention towards and away from distractions
 
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The illegal immigration problems are vastly overstated to drum up support from boomers and nationalists. Normally the policy was to just arrest em and then turn em around back into Mexico, but under Trump they were incarcerated in concentration camps under ICE, where'd they stay there for significant periods of time because we didn't have enough judges to handle illegal immigration cases, so they just kinda...rotted in camps. Their conditions are well documented but highly distressing if you're sensitive to that level of human suffering.

Only the GOP could look at an eager workforce and tax bracket and go "Hmm, sorry, wrong skin color, you gotta suffer now."
Not entirely, Trump did fight for the remain in Mexico policy.

What is going on is that NGOs in the US and providing support for the caravans of migrants, as well as documentation on what to say to claim to apply for asylum. The remain in Mexico policy would have the people apply, and then they would stay in Mexico while they wait for their asylum hearing.

Prior to this policy, they would apply for asylum, and then be released in the US to go wherever they wished and they just had to show up for their asylum hearing. If they showed up for their hearing. The remain in Mexico policy grew the same backlash from Mexican as US border states have. This caused Mexico to mobilize their military and prevent some of the caravans at Mexico's southern border.

But of course with many other things Biden signed away the policy day one and it was challenged. With the Supreme Court recently siding with Biden that he had the authority to do so.

After they applied they were free to return home and wait for their date, no one was forcing them to remain in the camps. They just wouldn't be released to go wherever they wished in the US.
 

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Did you not read my post? This feels like you didn’t read my post. Either that or you are agree with me on questioning why Biden hasn’t done anything about the kids in cages. Why is the very issue I am am bringing up and would like people to draw their attention towards and away from distractions
I guess am sorry? I DO agree that the DNC needs to do more to actually pay for the votes that they offered succor for.

You have not exactly ever treated me with even the slightest modicum of dignity or respect. Please forgive me that I didn't provide you the attention that you feel that you deserve. I can't even list the amount of insults you have hurled at me, and you are on my ignore list. I don't think we will ever truly be able to engage in intellectual intercourse due to your bigotry.
 
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Hauling around hundreds of pounds for an industrial cutter, generator and fuel, or plasma torch with propane tank is just as easy as carrying around a pair of bolt cutters that got through the previously existing fence.

Oh I know, the migrants are coming with heavy construction to tunnel under the wall. Checkmate, I guess the wall doesn't work.
Or they could just use a circular saw. Or a ladder and some rope. Point is, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone in the modern world who can't outsmart a wall. That money would've been better spent on literally anything else. What little money actually went toward the wall and not into Trump's pocket, anyway.

I don't know, border crossing were down to almost nothing compared to where they are today when Trump was in office.
And yet he was claiming mass migration was still a major problem during his 2020 campaign. Almost like Republicans only bring this topic up close to election time. :unsure:

But yes their should be penalties for knowingly hiring people who aren't eligible to work. However, many are using SSNs to attempt to bypass the checks.
So they're using SSNs that don't match their identities and corporations just aren't bothering to check? I don't buy it. Most know full well that they're hiring migrants who illegally crossed the border, because they pay them under the table and less than minimum wage.

BTW, you used that dirty term "illegal immigrants" be sure to report to reeducation camp in the next 48 hours for your firmware update to fix the coding bug that allowed that to slip through.
I used the term "illegal immigration" to specify that it's the act which is illegal, not the people themselves. Asking for asylum is not illegal, OTOH, but the Trump administration treated it as a crime nonetheless.
 
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I used the term "illegal immigration" to specify that it's the act which is illegal, not the people themselves. Asking for asylum is not illegal, OTOH, but the Trump administration treated it as a crime nonetheless.
If the ACT is illegal, then why are you supporting criminals? You literally just admitted that the ACT is illegal, which any logical person would take to mean that you understand that NONE of the fifty who were sent to Martha's Vineyard were actually asylum seekers, and ALL were committing, as you said, as CRIMINAL ACT.

What do you call someone who commits a criminal act? I'll give you three guesses. The first two don't even count.

Say it with me. CRI-MI-NALS.

Thanks for playing.
 

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That’s why small correction UωU I often find people putting the blame squarely on Trump. He is to blame for the current state of affairs but can’t ignore where it started or where it’s going. Plus, kids are still in cages and it’s frustrating and fucked up that Biden hasn’t done shit and most people have stopped talking about that. Seriously, these distractions with obvious fake immigration problem is contributing to kids still being in cages.
An important thing to remember is why the kids are "in cages". They are being separated by the people they are traveling with until it can be verified they are traveling with guardians. There have been many documented cases of people having children that they weren't guardians of in an attempt to get preferential treatment and speed through the system.

Add in all the unaccompanied minors in many of caravans and the majority of them even down to pre-teen children have been raped on their journey. It really makes me question their parents on sending their children to be abused and trafficked.
 
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If the ACT is illegal, then why are you supporting criminals? You literally just admitted that the ACT is illegal, which any logical person would take to mean that you understand that NONE of the fifty who were sent to Martha's Vineyard were actually asylum seekers, and ALL were committing, as you said, as CRIMINAL ACT.
Two wrongs don't make a right, DeSantis and Abbott also committed the criminal act of human trafficking rather than turning the migrants over to ICE or immigration services.
 
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Two wrongs don't make a right, DeSantis and Abbott also committed the criminal act of human trafficking rather than turning the migrants over to ICE or immigration services.
There aren't two wrongs to compare, here, though. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with incarcerating criminals.

If you break the law in crossing the border into a sovereign nation, you are, by definition, a criminal.

Transporting a CRIMINAL to a jurisdiction that has promised to offer sanctuary to CRIMINALS is not an illegal act, and is definitely not human trafficking, considering that 100% of the people dumped in Martha's Vineyard agreed to go there, because at least that meant that they wouldn't be sent back HOME. Where THEY BELONG. This is NOT their home, and they are NOT entitled to anything except a bus ride back to wherever they came from.

Not my pig, not my farm.

I do not CARE about the welfare or well-being of criminals, to be completely frank. They aren't Americans. They aren't my countrymen. They aren't trying to contribute to the betterment of this country. They are selfish lawbreakers who think the laws do not apply to them.

There is nothing at all morally wrong or even questionable about upholding the rule of law. The LAW is that you cannot illegally invade this country just because your life sucks. It's sad, but it's true. And I simply do not care about criminals. Which is what all of these people are, except for the innocent children being carted across the border by coyotes.

Man, woman and child, they should all simply be sent back home. They can try again, the right way. The legal way.

No one has a problem with LEGAL immigration. Let me say that again, in case it didn't sink in.

NO ONE, REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT, HAS ANY PROBLEM WITH LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

But that's not what we're talking about, is it?
 
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There aren't two wrongs to compare, here, though. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with incarcerating criminals.
They weren't incarcerated. They were bussed by individuals to a different state, which is the very definition of human trafficking. You can't pretend to be "tough on crime" if you're only concerned about crimes committed by brown people.

I do not CARE about the welfare or well-being of criminals, to be completely frank. They aren't Americans. They aren't my countrymen. They aren't trying to contribute to the betterment of this country. They are selfish lawbreakers who think the laws do not apply to them.
Whether you care about their welfare or not is irrelevant, as is any sterotyping you might choose to engage in. They're still human beings, not political campaign flyers you can ship via USPS.
 
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Man, woman and child, they should all simply be sent back home. They can try again, the right way. The legal way.

No one has a problem with LEGAL immigration. Let me say that again, in case it didn't sink in.

NO ONE, REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT, HAS ANY PROBLEM WITH LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

But that's not what we're talking about, is it?
I'd argue we need to kill off lotteries and chain immigration before claiming there are no issues with legal immigration.

But yes legal immigration at a whole makes the country better, but some of the current polices are very questionable.
 
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They weren't incarcerated. They were bussed by individuals to a different state, which is the very definition of human trafficking. You can't pretend to be "tough on crime" if you're only concerned about crimes committed by brown people.


Whether you care about their welfare or not is irrelevant, as is any sterotyping you might choose to engage in. They're still human beings, not political campaign flyers you can ship via USPS.
You keep bringing up "brown people". Feels like you have some kind of fixation on skin color.

Again, the leftists and Democrats are the only people bringing up race. NO ONE who is a conservative ever even brings up race.

It's about the criminal ACT of which you spoke. Not their ethnicity or nation of origin. You need and desperately WANT it to be about race, because then you can move the goalpost, and turn it into something about racism.

Conduct a quick thought experiment with me, though. Imagine that there are people out there who actually care about the rule of law, and want it applied blindly to everyone, regardless of race, religion or gender (of which there are only two, which cannot be chosen or changed based on feelings).

In that instance, these people are all criminals, and none of them deserve to be here.

What is your argument against THAT?
 

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They weren't incarcerated. They were bussed by individuals to a different state, which is the very definition of human trafficking. You can't pretend to be "tough on crime" if you're only concerned about crimes committed by brown people.


Whether you care about their welfare or not is irrelevant, as is any sterotyping you might choose to engage in. They're still human beings, not political campaign flyers you can ship via USPS.
Why are you only respectful once a moderator has stepped in and warned you?

Just wondering. You had an awful lot to say before, and before this.

I just find that interesting. I have never once attacked you. You can't say the same.

Combat ideas, not people. I hope you can learn something from that philosophy.
 
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