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The same worker co-op that makes the government owner of your land and farm animals? God forbid you kill a cow in Cuba (cow that you raised yourself), you'll get double the sentence than killing a person.
Then it's not a co-op you dumbass. This is extremely simple conceptually and you are still twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to weasel out of the fact that you have no real objection to anything I said. Protip: Crying about Cuba is not crying about worker co-ops and democracy.

I'm still waiting on what the inherent flaw of worker co-ops are, and why you think businesses today should be ran by out of touch marketing divisions. If workers surrender their sovereignty to the government then it's not a fucking co-op. It's just a planned economy.

That's a bad thing. That's literally something I *oppose*.

This is literally what the communists do, written down in their manifesto, and it's how Lenin, Mao, Castro and every other communist country came to power.
It's very cute that the Laina kicking her feet up in your head right now is a communist, but I'm not. So quit arguing with the spooky ghost in your head and focus on what's actually being said, you outrage addict.
 

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yea... i thinl its about time
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I spend most of my time high as a kite so the eye strain is very important to minimize lmao
That explains everything...

Then it's not a co-op you dumbass.
Tell this to the socialists you defend, not me.

you have no real objection to anything I said.
Except I do and I have shown it time and time again, don't make me responsible for your inability to comprehend simple commentary.

I'm still waiting on what the inherent flaw of worker co-ops are
Government control, monopoly and big corpo. It only takes two brain cells to figure this out.

If workers surrender their sovereignty to the government then it's not a fucking co-op. It's just a planned economy.
You do know that "planned economy" is the literal definition of socialism, right? right? Please tell me you're not that retarded.

in your head right now is a communist, but I'm not.
Yeah I, and every other decent human being, have a very difficult time distinguishing between National-Socialists, Communists and what-the-fuck-ever you call "Socialism", they all look and feel like the same shit.
 
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Except I do and I have shown it time and time again, don't make me responsible for your inability to comprehend simple commentary.
Crying about cuba and pretending authoritarianism is socialism (so much for being a believer in freedom and democracy lmao) is not a rebuttal to anything I've said about worker co-ops.

You do know that "planned economy" is the literal definition of socialism, right? right? Please tell me you're not that retarded.
Slurs are a sign of intellectual weakness. You can articulate your positions better than just crying. Planned economies are more communist than socialist. It's why there's "Market socialism," and "Market abolitionist socialism," the two are completely different positions. If you're ignorant on theory, that's not my problem. Don't reply to me with whiny nonsense if you don't even know the difference between market and marketless systems.
 
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also lmao
Yeah I, and every other decent human being, have a very difficult time distinguishing between National-Socialists, Communists and what-the-fuck-ever you call "Socialism", they all look and feel like the same shit.
No you don't, you only adopt this position for identity politics and larping. No one is stupid enough to look at workers voting on how they use the means of production and go "WOW, THIS IS LITERALLY 1940S GERMANY" lmao. Don't sling insults when you openly admit you cannot tell the difference between five workers electing a manager from their ranks, a commanded economy with no system of currency, and a country literally built on the expulsion of an entire religion from Europe. If you believe these three things are the same, you do not believe anything.
 

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So you are saying that some people are evil and they shouldn't have money.
Why would I want an apology?
You fucking asked for one, you stupid butt hurt bastard.

Think it through, Desmond. I'm not the one complaining that "you violated my 'Buddhist' tenets".
You didn't violate anything accept yourself.

Now just fuck off.
 
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at this rate the economical model of communism MINUS the authoriatarian government that is 99% attached to it seems better than some dipshits on wall street betting our investments away while they get richer and we get jack, also when the AHCA was butchered by the GOP only to pin the blame on obama (he has some blame though for not reading that butchered mess and vetoing then if the GOP pass it by 2/3rds guess who's to blame then?)
 
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I didn't ask for one. I asked where it was. It is not typical for a zen master to flip out, do bad shit, and not apologize.
You are right. I am wrong.
You asked for an apology from me for being wrong about you never taking a stance on anything.
I still stand by that.

All of these personal attacks regarding the Buddhist religion make you a bigot at best.
 
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You are right. I am wrong.
You asked for an apology from me for being wrong about you never taking a stance on anything.
I still stand by that.

All of these personal attacks regarding the Buddhist religion make you a bigot at best.
Yeah tabzer isn't particularly open to ideas not approved by his billionaire overlords
 
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at this rate the economical model of communism MINUS the authoriatarian government that is 99% attached to it seems better than some dipshits on wall street betting our investments away while they get richer and we get jack, also when the AHCA was butchered by the GOP only to pin the blame on obama (he has some blame though for not reading that butchered mess and vetoing then if the GOP pass it by 2/3rds guess who's to blame then?)
The economic model of Communism always looks great. Until they get control, then the dead bodies start piling up, and the useful idiots are the first to go.
 
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The economic model of Communism always looks great. Until they get control, then the dead bodies start piling up, and the useful idiots are the first to go.
IDK. When you have (capitalism) willingly charge substantially higher costs on medications like insulin (for a month, it can be anywhere from 100+ dollars to far more (700))
Or a EpiPen, which the average cost is a whopping 700 bucks if your not insured (while in those crazy socialist countries who have removed a for profit healthcare system. Is a mezely 100 bucks for two)

Oh let's not forget the people dying to the exposed elements. Or the people starving. Or people dying to perfectly treatable illnesses.

And that's exluding factors like a for profit military system.
And this is excluding the type of government (authoritarian, or anarchistic)

Meanwhile communism, presuming that it's not a dictatorship (say idk. A direct democracy. So in other words anarcho communism)
You know what the deaths would be?
As little as possible. Because communists don't care about what's in your wallet. We care about other people's well being. There's no point forcing someone into a 40+ hour work grind, if their mental health is in shambles.
(hell that ignores the fact that we don't need the 40 hour work week at all. anything beyond 4 hours and our productivity has proven to tank.)
Hell conventional jobs would just be phased out, doing the same kind of work over and over day in and out is not healthy. It leads to burn out.
And it's not like no work would be done, someone still has to manage the sewers, someone still has to keep track of the electric grid. doctors are still needed.
But instead of some private business's manager handling shit. The community would handle it, aka, the people that fucking live there. Instead of relying on some private company who's just looking for the next set of massive profits.

Tl;dr Captalism has a fuck ton of blood on it's hands. From the Military, down to the United States horrible For profit healthcare system, which profits off of people's misfortunes, and kills through it's paywall. Anarcho communism is a more ethical way (or less radical views such as democratic socalism) would still be far better than Capitalism.
 
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IDK. When you have (capitalism) willingly charge substantially higher costs on medications like insulin (for a month, it can be anywhere from 100+ dollars to far more (700))
Or a EpiPen, which the average cost is a whopping 700 bucks if your not insured (while in those crazy socialist countries who have removed a for profit healthcare system. Is a mezely 100 bucks for two)

Oh let's not forget the people dying to the exposed elements. Or the people starving. Or people dying to perfectly treatable illnesses.

And that's exluding factors like a for profit military system.
And this is excluding the type of government (authoritarian, or anarchistic)

Meanwhile communism, presuming that it's not a dictatorship (say idk. A direct democracy. So in other words anarcho communism)
You know what the deaths would be?
As little as possible. Because communists don't care about what's in your wallet. We care about other people's well being. There's no point forcing someone into a 40+ hour work grind, if their mental health is in shambles.
(hell that ignores the fact that we don't need the 40 hour work week at all. anything beyond 4 hours and our productivity has proven to tank.)
Hell conventional jobs would just be phased out, doing the same kind of work over and over day in and out is not healthy. It leads to burn out.
And it's not like no work would be done, someone still has to manage the sewers, someone still has to keep track of the electric grid. doctors are still needed.
But instead of some private business's manager handling shit. The community would handle it, aka, the people that fucking live there. Instead of relying on some private company who's just looking for the next set of massive profits.

Tl;dr Captalism has a fuck ton of blood on it's hands. From the Military, down to the United States horrible For profit healthcare system, which profits off of people's misfortunes, and kills through it's paywall. Anarcho communism is a more ethical way (or less radical views such as democratic socalism) would still be far better than Capitalism.
Please go join a hippie communist commune. I want to see how long you last before you GTFO.
 
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Since you're already laughing. Let me ask you. How would you fix the for profit healthcare system killing people. How would you resolve having a for profit military system.

Since if your laughing, that must mean some other solution that you deem "better" is possible. So I'd like to hear it. Unless your just deciding to give a nothing burger and just whining about solutions.
 

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