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Couy Griffin is disqualified for holding office after actions relating to january 6th

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threaten to kill or forcefully remove democratically elected officials. Just one for thought. Idk, like... chanting kill mike pence.... idk. Looking to remove the current sitting speaker of the house? idk. Intentionally stopping the election certification process? idk. bringing weapons?
Your clown clothes are really revealing if you genuinely can't think that far. I also swear if I hear "but they didn't succeed so it's fine"
That's like saying that because I shot the gun at you, and it missed, that I shouldn't be convicted for attempted murder because it failed.
I mean the only reason anyone could possibly think that Jan 6th was anything other than a genuine attempt to overthrow an election that their precious tyrant wannabe lost is if they're either brain damaged, or they're coping and trying to deny the fact. These apes would be cheering if Trump managed to overthrow Biden lmao. I'd have more respect if they'd come out and say what they think instead of pretending.
 

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threaten to kill or forcefully remove democratically elected officials. Just one for thought. Idk, like... chanting kill mike pence.... idk. Looking to remove the current sitting speaker of the house? idk. Intentionally stopping the election certification process? idk. bringing weapons?
Your clown clothes are really revealing if you genuinely can't think that far. I also swear if I hear "but they didn't succeed so it's fine"
That's like saying that because I shot the gun at you, and it missed, that I shouldn't be convicted for attempted murder because it failed.
it's sadly ironic how this country came to be by rebelion do it today and you'll probably get shot or the needle
 

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it's sadlt ironic how this country came to be by rebelion
Not ironic. (I mean it can be if your just looking at it completely simplistically
Overthrow government (monarchy) to get new government.)
It rebelled against kings and queens. There was no method or means to check such a system. We live (or supposed to. be) a representative democracy. So there's supposed to more checks in place. And to some degree, it is better than a monarchy. Now if we could just get money of politics, that be great. better yet, get rid of the electoral collage.

People don't like bloodshed, it's the last resort. Or at least should be. Because it's not pretty.
 

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Shame we didn't bring it back for Jan 6th-ers.
They did, look at Ashley Babbitt, the difference was the insurrectionists were unarmed.

But I'm glad you were able to finally speak your mind about feeling that the government should murder political dissidents. I'm sure Xi approved +5 social credit points for that.
 
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They did, look at Ashley Babbitt, the difference was the insurrectionists were unarmed.

But I'm glad you were able to finally speak your mind about feeling that the government should murder political dissidents. I'm sure Xi approved +5 social credit points for that.
Yes I do think that people who want to shoot our officials and take over our government should be shot. Your grandstanding isn't working here, cultist.
 
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Yes I do think that people who want to shoot our officials and take over our government should be shot. Your grandstanding isn't working here, cultist.
More accurately, a group of people who don't represent the people, who are not liked by the majority of people (both in office and as a normal citizen), trying to overthrow the government.

IF the majority of people do it, then it's an agreed revolution. If a minority of people do it, and are dispised to put it lightly, then that's a coup attempt. A power grab that no one agreed to except themselves.
 

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threaten to kill or forcefully remove democratically elected officials. Just one for thought. Idk, like... chanting kill mike pence.... idk. Looking to remove the current sitting speaker of the house? idk. Intentionally stopping the election certification process? idk. bringing weapons?
Your clown clothes are really revealing if you genuinely can't think that far. I also swear if I hear "but they didn't succeed so it's fine"
That's like saying that because I shot the gun at you, and it missed, that I shouldn't be convicted for attempted murder because it failed.
I only can see that as a product of your "democracy". No matter how bad you want to frame it, those citizens are subjects; not foreign entities.

The democracy of Germany elected Hitler, and then things took a hard swing into fascism as its democracy committed seppuku.

I'm afraid that no matter who you "elect", that America is headed directly towards an authoritarian conclusion. It seems like everyone is trying to scramble to be on the inside of it.

Honestly, everyone should have seen it when it was Trump vs Clinton.
 
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I only can see that as a product of your "democracy". No matter how bad you want to frame it, those citizens are subjects of your democracy.
No it's a product of the constant continuous erosion of it.
And it's not "my" democracy. I already told you what I do and don't support. I do support "a democracy"
I don't support a representative democracy without proper insulation. Aka, get money the fuck out, and remove gerrymandering since it serves no purpose other than trying to gain the system.
And I'm a major supporter of a direct democracy system. Aka, remove representatives outright, and instead let laws be choose by people through entirely in merit through public support.

And the cause of that erosion?
By none other than the few powerful elites, capitalism.

Aka, including, Republicans and Democrats who represent those powerful elites to varying degrees. With Republicans going straight off the cliff to authoritarianism.

I've gone through this how many times now?

Tl;dr capitalism is an authoritarian based system, it's inherit structure is top to bottom. The boss is the boss, and you get no say in it. Just like how the king is the king, and you cannot go against his words.

Capitalism and democracy are as opposites as oil and water. They don't mix. You can mix it around as much as you want, you might even get it to mix a tiny bit, but it'll separate in the end.
The democracy of Germany elected Hitler, and then things took a hard swing into fascism as its democracy committed seppuku.
The reason Hitler got elected is for the same reasons the United States is on it's last swing point. I give it 2023 or 2024 that the entire system may come completely undone:

Economic down turn/people's needs not being met
Misinformation (aka, fox news, and anything to the right of it.)
Leftism comes as answer to further and further right wing politics. Something we've seen as rights of people have been removed, or continuation of make acting in a democracy harder. Aka, banning trans, aka trying to ban gay marriage, aka trying to prevent people means of voting. (aka blocking mail in ballots) making women's lives miserable.

The only difference is between then and now. Is that fascism to that degree has been seen. And so leftists have the tool set more readily viable to fight against fascist movements.

And the reason I suspect 2023 is because the supreme court wants to rule on independent legislature theory. Which effectively makes it possible for the state to just, not check in with the voter populous. Something Republicans have been heavily pushing.
 
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I only can see that as a product of your "democracy". No matter how bad you want to frame it, those citizens are subjects; not foreign entities.

The democracy of Germany elected Hitler, and then things took a hard swing into fascism as its democracy committed seppuku.

I'm afraid that no matter who you "elect", that America is headed directly towards an authoritarian conclusion. It seems like everyone is trying to scramble to be on the inside of it.

Honestly, everyone should have seen it when it was Trump vs Clinton.
So in other words, you want an dictatorship, and just trying to hide behind it with "well that's just what's going to happen anyways"
You have been very loud and vocal about your support of the Republican Party.
sorry that you don't pull the wool over people's eyes as you hope.
 
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So in other words, you want an dictatorship, and just trying to hide behind it with "well that's just what's going to happen anyways"
You have been very loud and vocal about your support of the Republican Party.
sorry that you don't pull the wool over people's eyes as you hope.
I don't think he has anyone convinced, least of all himself. People who support the Republican party in the modern era either are stupid enough to believe their propaganda, or maliciously support authoritarianism that seeks to oppress everyone who doesn't fall in line with the status quo.
 

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https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/...and-assaulting-law-enforcement-officers-jan-6
here's one. straight from the horses mouth and plead guilty.
We going to dance for another 1,000 pages again of denial or what?
Where are the weapon charges in the trials? I believe only one person had been charged so far.

I already covered that but you failed to quote it to try to make a point.

But you're right that's the most embarrassing insurrection ever when only Mark remembered to bring his gun with the hundreds of thousand of others forgetting.
 

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Where are the weapon charges in the trials? I believe only one person had been charged so far.

I already covered that but you failed to quote it to try to make a point.

But you're right that's the most embarrassing insurrection ever when only Mark remembered to bring his gun with the hundreds of thousand of others forgetting.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/22/man-charged-loaded-firearm-capitol-riot-523178
have several
"Mark Mazza, 56, is the latest of about half a dozen Jan. 6 defendants charged with bringing a gun to the Capitol. In this case"
you asked for charges, you get more charges.
 

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It's cool that you want to claim that it's not your democracy. Voting for Biden seems to contradict that.

The point I'm making about your "democracy" is that it has a centralizing trajectory. It's either left or right that's going to assume the throne, and both are bad outcomes. The result would be indistinguishable, whether it was a leftists or a righty.

So in other words, you want an dictatorship, and just trying to hide behind it with "well that's just what's going to happen anyways"

Me being cynical about America is not the same as saying I want a dictatorship. I want more decentralization and communities to be localized, tbh. I've said so.

You have been very loud and vocal about your support of the Republican Party.

I don't support the Republican party. I have spoken on concerns that the Republican party uses as talking points. I've never encouraged trusting either party. I've vocalized incentive to start a new one, but people just want to vote for lesser corruption, as the corruption escalates between both parties every term. Meh.
 

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Where are the weapon charges in the trials? I believe only one person had been charged so far.

I already covered that but you failed to quote it to try to make a point.

But you're right that's the most embarrassing insurrection ever when only Mark remembered to bring his gun with the hundreds of thousand of others forgetting.
You know what, scratch that
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases
have the entire list.
 
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