Climate Crisis Fake & not the Cause of Fat Kids (Steve Watson, ZeroHedge) [Two Articles]

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'[...]

A study published in the journal Temperature has claimed that there is a correlation between rising temperatures and children becoming fatter and more unhealthy.

The study claims that climate change is causing more children to stay inside, eat more, and be generally less active.

[...]

The core argument of the study concerns “heat stress assessment” and claims that it is more ‘dangerous’ and less fun for children to be active if it’s warmer outside.

Critics have noted that the study uses stats recorded during the COVID lockdowns, and as such it may be skewed.

[...]

Perhaps the fact that children are becoming obese and unhealthy is more to do with the fact that their parents increasingly feed them unhealthy (more affordable) food, coupled with the fact that society encourages, protects and even celebrates unhealthy lifestyles.'

-Steve Watson

https://summit.news/2022/08/16/stud...-fat-and-unhealthy-because-of-global-warming/

'[...] the media is frantic over the current drought and “record temps” in Europe this summer, warning that it could become the “worst drought” in 500 years. Of course, this claim opens the door to a question that climate scientists and propagandists don't want to answer: What happened 500 years ago?

A similar level of global warming hysteria was present during a heat wave in Europe in 2003, as well as in 2018. The few climate scientists still not bought and paid for by governments and the UN have had to point out that these droughts are nothing compared to the living hell that was the drought of 1540. This event is often termed a “mega-drought” because the region suffered historically hot temps while receiving almost no rain for a year.

Temperatures that year averaged 5°C to 7° C above average temperatures in Europe in the 20th century. In US terms, that means daily summer temps of around 104° F. Hundreds of historic accounts written at the time describe around half a million deaths, along with vast wildfires and a winter in Italy that “felt like July.” Keep in mind that carbon levels in Europe in 1540 were 30% LOWER than they are today, yet, the region suffered perhaps the worst warming event in its recorded history.

Today's climate data is based on records held by the NOAA and other institutions, and these records only go back to 1880. So, whenever you hear the mainstream media rant about record temperatures, they are using a tiny sliver of global weather history going back a little over a century. Any honest scientist in this field will tell you that the Earth's climate record is vast compared to the limited data used by global warming ideologues, and the majority of destructive weather crises have occurred well before man-made carbon emissions.

It certainly wasn't carbon pollution from cars, farming and industry that caused the crisis in 1540.

[...]

Let's just say that carbon controls are a powerful tool for micromanaging the population and justifying authoritarianism in the name of the “greater good.” If the public is convinced to accept false climate change narratives, then government would have the ability to control every aspect of daily life, from the amount of electricity we use, to the food we eat, to the businesses we can run, to the level of production and the size of the population. This is not fiction this is reality, and it is happening much faster than many people realize, all in the name of saving the planet from a threat that doesn't exist.'

-ZeroHedge

https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/there-no-climate-crisis-history-shows-us-earth-has-seen-far-worse
 

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'[...]

A study published in the journal Temperature has claimed that there is a correlation between rising temperatures and children becoming fatter and more unhealthy.

The study claims that climate change is causing more children to stay inside, eat more, and be generally less active.

[...]

The core argument of the study concerns “heat stress assessment” and claims that it is more ‘dangerous’ and less fun for children to be active if it’s warmer outside.

Critics have noted that the study uses stats recorded during the COVID lockdowns, and as such it may be skewed.

[...]

Perhaps the fact that children are becoming obese and unhealthy is more to do with the fact that their parents increasingly feed them unhealthy (more affordable) food, coupled with the fact that society encourages, protects and even celebrates unhealthy lifestyles.'

-Steve Watson

https://summit.news/2022/08/16/stud...-fat-and-unhealthy-because-of-global-warming/

'[...] the media is frantic over the current drought and “record temps” in Europe this summer, warning that it could become the “worst drought” in 500 years. Of course, this claim opens the door to a question that climate scientists and propagandists don't want to answer: What happened 500 years ago?

A similar level of global warming hysteria was present during a heat wave in Europe in 2003, as well as in 2018. The few climate scientists still not bought and paid for by governments and the UN have had to point out that these droughts are nothing compared to the living hell that was the drought of 1540. This event is often termed a “mega-drought” because the region suffered historically hot temps while receiving almost no rain for a year.

Temperatures that year averaged 5°C to 7° C above average temperatures in Europe in the 20th century. In US terms, that means daily summer temps of around 104° F. Hundreds of historic accounts written at the time describe around half a million deaths, along with vast wildfires and a winter in Italy that “felt like July.” Keep in mind that carbon levels in Europe in 1540 were 30% LOWER than they are today, yet, the region suffered perhaps the worst warming event in its recorded history.

Today's climate data is based on records held by the NOAA and other institutions, and these records only go back to 1880. So, whenever you hear the mainstream media rant about record temperatures, they are using a tiny sliver of global weather history going back a little over a century. Any honest scientist in this field will tell you that the Earth's climate record is vast compared to the limited data used by global warming ideologues, and the majority of destructive weather crises have occurred well before man-made carbon emissions.

It certainly wasn't carbon pollution from cars, farming and industry that caused the crisis in 1540.

[...]

Let's just say that carbon controls are a powerful tool for micromanaging the population and justifying authoritarianism in the name of the “greater good.” If the public is convinced to accept false climate change narratives, then government would have the ability to control every aspect of daily life, from the amount of electricity we use, to the food we eat, to the businesses we can run, to the level of production and the size of the population. This is not fiction this is reality, and it is happening much faster than many people realize, all in the name of saving the planet from a threat that doesn't exist.'

-ZeroHedge

https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/there-no-climate-crisis-history-shows-us-earth-has-seen-far-worse

I'm done. Congratulations Creamu. You've successfully broken me.

you've sucessfully dropped off so far into the deep end that I mentally cannot create an argument right now...
I could link all the sources in the world, every bit of data linking from polar icecaps and carbon dating methods, to the amount of dark spots on the sun dating back as early (or earlier) as 1800's since people measured those things. To the tree dating using the total amount of rings in them. Or the total amount of ice caps shrinking in total across the world more than they have gained. All using them in tandom to prove that you'd be wrong as our ppm of carbon has gone far above the standard freezing and heating phases of the planet through axial tilt combined with the drilling ice measurements and tree dating as a means to recreate the record of the planet dating as far back as 800,000 bce.

But why should I?
You'll just go back, link more bullshit that I'd have to sift through with absolutely nothing accomplished
 

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Even oil companies no longer dispute that climate change is real and largely caused by human activity. Doesn't mean they plan to change anything about the way they do business, but still, this is a losing argument on your part Creamu. ZeroHedge is and always has been an alt-reich tabloid.
 

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It's nice to see that I get so much feedback. There are alot of people here that seem to have much better ideas on how to OP a thread. Hope to see your threads in the future and learn by your example.
They already exist you aren't looking well enough.

@Acid_Snake you got something to add or you're being your usual useless self?
 

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@Acid_Snake you got something to add or you're being your usual useless self?
I don't like wasting my time with stupid discussions that seem to come out of an elementary school class.
If I wanted to learn something new about climate change I already know a lot of legit scientific sources, nevermind the fact that I work, professionally, on the sector of renewable energy sources and electric cars, what's your credentials for anything you have to say? Oh that's right, nothing.

You do your thing though.
 

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Ah climate change conspiracy theories, aren't these just the best /s

There's so many ways I could try to debunk this but I'm not even going to bother, you would probably just tell me they were made up by lizard people, or free masons, or the kabal, or who ever you think fabricates all science in the world. That's the nature of these conspiracy theories, people seek to prove them right long long after it stops making any sense.

Also yes I didn't fully read your post, I don't think that's necessary. if it's anything like the last one I read by you it's probably from one of the same garbage tabloids you always copy from and it's probably equally vile and repugnant as the last one I read.
 
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You see the ultimate redpill is realizing that the obligation to debunk nonsense is, in fact, fabricated and you are equally valid in poking fun at it and its delusional posters as you are in debunking it.

Climate change is real, the discussion is solved, as is the science, and until someone who isn't methodologically challenged provides evidence otherwise it remains that way.
 
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You see the ultimate redpill is realizing that the obligation to debunk nonsense is, in fact, fabricated and you are equally valid in poking fun at it and its delusional posters as you are in debunking it.

Climate change is real, the discussion is solved, as is the science, and until someone who isn't methodologically challenged provides evidence otherwise it remains that way.
So, its real and we cant deny it, i knew it..... Oh well... at least its better than living in San francisco
 

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So, its real and we cant deny it, i knew it..... Oh well... at least its better than living in San francisco
What isn't?
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I could link all the sources in the world, [...] But why should I?
I don't like wasting my time with stupid discussions
There's so many ways I could try to debunk this but I'm not even going to bother
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Okay, so the positions of the authors in OP are obviously bullshit right. I get a bingo! on how bullshit it is, but even though it is so obviously wrong no engagment with the substance. I don't know but it smells like there is weakness there.
 

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LOL - Fat kids are fat because the consumed more calories than they burned off,then stored those excess calories as fat - it's basic maths and even the thickest of people should be able to understand that reality.
 

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