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Trump Raid and the End of the United States (Padraig Martin)

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On average, with average medical care in the USA. A man his age will live to 87 (11 more years).

https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/longevity.cgi

But he is also very wealthy, not a smoker or alcohol user. He has a lot of factors that will likely mean living even longer than that.

I know he seems unhealthy, but from a doctor's perspective he is actually very well for someone his age. I wouldn't expect him to pass away anytime soon. All guys his age are eating unhealthy in my experience.
A heart attack can finish off someone much younger and in much better shape in an instant. By his own admission he doesn't exercise, and he needs a golf cart to move more than ten feet at a time.
 
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A heart attack can finish off someone much younger and in much better shape in an instant. By his own admission he doesn't exercise, and he needs a golf cart to move more than ten feet at a time.
yes however, as I shared, average for all comers his age is 11 years without taking into account any of his protective factors. I have a clinic with men his age (veteran's hospital) and I can tell you he has a great shot.

Also, heart attacks don't tend to come out of nowhere. And you can simply have a stent placed in most cases. Additionally - if he was going to have coronary disease it would have likely happened years ago already. By not smoking his chance of heart attack is already quite low.
 

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yes however, as I shared, average for all comers his age is 11 years without taking into account any of his protective factors. I have a clinic with men his age (veteran's hospital) and I can tell you he has a great shot.
Averages mean very little, because that would be assuming average weight and an average exercise routine, as well as an average diet. He's both shorter and considerably fatter than the data we have available from that quack doctor of his would lead you to believe. Dude is morbidly obese.

By not smoking his chance of heart attack is already quite low.
Sure, but then you gotta factor in that he blew out his sinuses decades ago by doing way too much cocaine, and that didn't help his cardiovascular health either. See: his ridiculously loud and lengthy "sniffs" during speeches that are necessary to catch his breath.
 
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Averages mean very little, because that would be assuming average weight and an average exercise routine, as well as an average diet. He's both shorter and considerably fatter than the data we have available from that quack doctor of his would lead you to believe. Dude is morbidly obese.


Sure, but then you gotta factor in that he blew out his sinuses decades ago by doing way too much cocaine, and that didn't help his cardiovascular health either. See: his ridiculously loud and lengthy "sniffs" during speeches that are necessary to catch his breath.
average americans over the age of 75 are overweight, with 50th percentile BMI 27.5. Less than half of americans over age 65 exercise regularly.

The best indicator for longevity is current age. I think you might have a skewed idea of the average american (as they are quite unhealthy). Anyhow I don't want to keep getting off topic but Trump is all things considered at least average for his cohort, but in my personal experience healthier than many people his age.
 

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average americans over the age of 75 are overweight, with 50th percentile BMI 27.5.
If I'm being generous and calling Trump 6 foot and 300 lbs, his BMI is 40.7.

Less than half of americans over age 65 exercise regularly.
Which means they're still weighting the average.

Anyhow I don't want to keep getting off topic but Trump is all things considered at least average for his cohort, but in my personal experience healthier than many people his age.
Depends on where you live I suppose, states where people stay inside almost constantly due to the heat see a lot more obesity I'm sure. Here in Colorado I'd say at least 85% of the elderly population are in much better shape than Trump.
 

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average americans over the age of 75 are overweight, with 50th percentile BMI 27.5. Less than half of americans over age 65 exercise regularly.

The best indicator for longevity is current age. I think you might have a skewed idea of the average american (as they are quite unhealthy). Anyhow I don't want to keep getting off topic but Trump is all things considered at least average for his cohort, but in my personal experience healthier than many people his age.
It's clear that Trump lives rent free in this guy's head. He'd drop hints about him wishing that he'd die soon even if he had the same body type as Schwarzenegger.
 

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He'd drop hints about him wishing that he'd die soon even if he had the same body type as Schwarzenegger.
Well yeah, being in better shape wouldn't instantly make him a better person, but it would drop his risk of instantaneous death by a whole lot. Hell would freeze over long before he decides to start and stick to an exercise routine, though, he has some dumbass beliefs about a "finite human battery."

It's all a moot point anyway, as half the expected sentence would still be about 16 years, and even by x65943's guesstimate he'll kick the bucket 11 years in.
 
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'Liz Cheney wants Americans to 'unite' across party lines to prevent Donald Trump from regaining the White House following her devastating defeat in Wyoming's primary on Tuesday.

[...]

"That’s a decision that I’m going to make in the coming months," she said, adding "It is something that I'm thinking about."

"I have said since Jan. 6 that I will do whatever it takes to ensure Donald Trump is never again anywhere near the Oval Office and I mean it."

In addition to her new PAC, Cheney will have a public forum for her campaign against Trump as vice chair of the committee investigating the former president’s role in the Capitol insurrection until she leaves Congress in January. Cheney was a rising Republican star until she stood up to Trump. After she voted to impeach Trump in the aftermath of the attack on the Capitol by a mob of his supporters, the political costs for Cheney’s defiance mounted. The Wyoming Republican Party voted to censure her and asked her to resign. Then she was removed as the third-ranking House Republican leader by her colleagues, who accused her of abandoning the party. That culminated in her loss Tuesday to Hageman by a two-to-one margin with half the votes counted. -Bloomberg

[...]'

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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/neocon-gone-liz-cheney-battles-seat-wyoming-primary

'The recent raid by the FBI on former President Donald Trump’s residence has solidified Trump’s hold on the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, according to conservatives and analysts.

The raid of Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s house in Palm Beach, Florida, was aimed at preventing the former president from gaining office again, they told The Epoch Times.

If anything, however, the raid has had the opposite effect, they said, as the belief grows that Trump will announce a new presidential run sooner rather than later.

[...]

Taken together, the results mark a ten-point swing for Trump over his nearest competitor, and seem to solidify what conservative analysts have told The Epoch Times—that the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago has made Trump more powerful in the GOP as voters become clearer with what’s at stake in 2024.


What Victory Means

For Blackwell, the raid is galvanizing Republicans into action.

“I think people smell what victory for the GOP means,” said Blackwell referring to the 2022 elections as well as 2024.

What it means, he said, is an attempt to take the House, the Senate, and the presidency for a president in Trump who has a bonafide track record as a conservative.

The raid is a reminder of all that is at stake, not just for Donald Trump, but for the country as well.

“I see candidates and donors and voters not just bound by their optimism, but fueled by their concerns as well,” concluded Blackwell.

The Epoch Times has reached out to the White House, DOJ, and FBI for comment.'

-John Ransom

https://www.theepochtimes.com/fbi-r...-expected-2024-run-observers-say_4666287.html

'“Yes, it’s possible [but] I don’t think it’s going to happen,” Alan Dershowitz told Newsmax on Tuesday about whether Trump would be arrested. People who believe that prosecution and an indictment would keep Trump away from the 2024 campaign are “dead wrong,” he remarked.

“He can run for president even if he’s indicted, convicted, and wearing striped shirts, prison garb,” he added to the channel. “The Constitution provides only four bases for disqualification for president, and being convicted of a crime is not one of them. Congress can’t change the criteria that are in the Constitution for the election of the president.”

[...]

The former president on Monday said that FBI agents took three passports from him before a spokesperson confirmed that a Department of Justice official said they were returned. Hours later, he called for the Justice Department to release the affidavit, which would provide insight into why the Department of Justice believes it is justified in trying to obtain the search warrant.

“There is no way to justify the unannounced RAID of Mar-a-Lago, the home of the 45th President of the United States … in the interest of TRANSPARENCY, I call for the immediate release of the completely Unredacted Affidavit pertaining to this horrible and shocking BREAK-IN. Also, the Judge on this case should recuse!” Trump wrote on Truth Social.'

-Jack Phillips

https://www.theepochtimes.com/alan-...p-wont-keep-him-out-of-2024-race_4668498.html
 
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@Creamu how you gonna like a post about sticking to the topic of the raid and then immediately post something not at all related? Cheney sucks and I'm sure her replacement will suck too, Wyoming doesn't get to have nice things because it's one big truck stop. Their main export is meth and/or heroin.
 

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'“Yes, it’s possible [but] I don’t think it’s going to happen,” Alan Dershowitz told Newsmax
Bruh, you might as well be asking Tucker Carlson. WTF you think he's gonna say?

All your sources are hot garbage, btw. Newsmax, epoch, and zerohedge. If you could post any actual news instead of opinion pieces for once, that'd be great.
 

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I merged your previous posts, because you posted back to back. If we can't stick to topic or be civil here this thread will be locked. Let's try to have a civil discussion.
 

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He's facing up to 33 years in prison, according to legal experts. The lard ass has maybe 5 years left to live before the Big Macs finish him off. So there's a lot of wiggle room there.
I´ve read the best predictor of near death in old people is the difficulty standing up, i.e. speed strength, not stamina. Technically, Bic Macs extend life, unlike smoking, which contains no protein or vitamines.
Your comment sounds a bit age-ist and if he was black, racist. :(

Should his arrest really spark a lot of property damage and loss of life, then we could call it a reverse-Floyd (i.e. people defending and idealizing a criminal)
 

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I merged your previous posts, because you posted back to back. If we can't stick to topic or be civil here this thread will be locked. Let's try to have a civil discussion.
Okay, just letting you know that on my end I don't immediatly get what is going on if you do this. I worked under the assumption that I did something I didn't intended to do. Just FYI
 

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Technically, Bic Macs extend life, unlike smoking, which contains no protein or vitamines.
You think cow anus contains vitamins? I guess maybe very trace amounts. The bun probably has more than the meat.

Your comment sounds a bit age-ist and if he was black, racist. :(
Bro lmaooo. It's neither. Anybody is capable of taking better care of themselves into their 70s and 80s than Trump has. "If he was black..." killing me over here. :rofl:
 

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I merged your previous posts, because you posted back to back. If we can't stick to topic or be civil here this thread will be locked. Let's try to have a civil discussion.
You do understand that it's just two users that have been flaming and calling everyone names, right? No need to lock a thread for those two unhinged users.
 

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