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Nordic countries have said they are not socialist countries. Cuba and Venezuela have called themselves socialist countries. You can tell the difference because nobody flees Nordic countries. People risk their lives to flee socialist countries. I know weird, right?
I thinking the issue is you are refusing to acknowledge that there's a spectrum. IT is not 100% socialism or nothing ....Not even the USA is 100% Capitalism and has a lot of Socialist Programs in the wood work. Nordic Countries have ALOT More Socialist Programs and better overall quality of life/ Happiness.. that is why there is a legit Economist word for it "Nordic model".
and of course Socialist Programs can go too far and Create Failed states ,( but the same notion can be applied for Capitalism.). but if you look at Failed states the issue was Authoritarian behind one party or one PERSON (HINT HINT).
Places that Did not focus on Authoritarianism and actually focused on the population (Nordic model) are Thriving
 

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Nordic countries have said they are not socialist countries. Cuba and Venezuela have called themselves socialist countries. You can tell the difference because nobody flees Nordic countries. People risk their lives to flee socialist countries. I know weird, right?
Hey quick question, is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea a Democratic Republic?
 

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Playing both sides only works when you don't play the whataboutism, and when you don't try to equal a literal coup d'etat to put a tryrant in power with protestors who riot because their rights are being trampled.
Lmao are you referring to the 2020 riots? Where a global pandemic was going on but americans thought it was appropriate to protest for a drug addict and make him a saint despite pointing a gun at a pregnant woman? Or about all the other countless riots over false information of "unharmed black victims" just to realize that they were, in fact, armed and ready to kill?

Oh but it's ok because the scientists in the US said that the 2020 riots did not help spread COVID. Meanwhile regular people were forced to wear masks, gloves and social distancing. Something I've never cared about, because a pandemic is a pandemic, but that situation and that alone proved that the US is a clown state. And it's even funnier that you people will bash any criticism with "you're just a right winger/russian tool". Meanwhile, on websites like Reddit, people set up subreddits where they celebrate people's deaths due to COVID.
 

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Lmao are you referring to the 2020 riots? Where a global pandemic was going on but americans thought it was appropriate to protest for a drug addict and make him a saint despite pointing a gun at a pregnant woman? Or about all the other countless riots over false information of "unharmed black victims" just to realize that they were, in fact, armed and ready to kill?

Oh but it's ok because the scientists in the US said that the 2020 riots did not help spread COVID. Meanwhile regular people were forced to wear masks, gloves and social distancing. Something I've never cared about, because a pandemic is a pandemic, but that situation and that alone proved that the US is a clown state. And it's even funnier that you people will bash any criticism with "you're just a right winger/russian tool". Meanwhile, on websites like Reddit, people set up subreddits where they celebrate people's deaths due to COVID.
How mad does it make you that black people are tired of being killed by cops
 

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"Back the blue...unless they enforce the laws that we're breaking, then FUCKING KILL 'EM!" - Every conservative

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: there must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” - Frank Wilhoit
 

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"Back the blue...unless they enforce the laws that we're breaking, then FUCKING KILL 'EM!" - Every conservative

“Conservatism Consists of Exactly One Proposition, to Wit: There Must Be In-Groups Whom the Law Protects but Does Not Bind, Alongside Out-Groups Whom the Law Binds but Does Not Protect.” - Frank Wilhoit
For real, watching the party of blue lives matter immediately turn around to being anti-government as soon as it bit their asses was so fucking funny.

I cannot imagine still being a right winger after all the constant Ls.
 

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"Back the blue...unless they enforce the laws that we're breaking, then FUCKING KILL 'EM!" - Every conservative

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: there must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” - Frank Wilhoit
Is this coming from the ACAB people or...?
 

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Nordic countries have said they are not socialist countries. Cuba and Venezuela have called themselves socialist countries. You can tell the difference because nobody flees Nordic countries. People risk their lives to flee socialist countries. I know weird, right?
Good thing I said social democracy and not socialist then.
 

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please keep it civil lads, you can disagree but don't go about calling each other bootlickers or other direct attacks

edit: and please stick to the topic
 

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LegalEagle released a neat little primer about the alleged crimes Trump may have committed based on the released search warrant parts, and what the allegedly broken laws actually mean:

Other highlights include going over the legal basis of classification and declassification of documents, how the presidents powers factor into that, and what documents the president can't actually declassify by himself and who must actually sign off on the declassification instead. As well as the process of declassification that may have "accidentally" been skipped by Trump before he wheeled a truck load of documents out of the white house.

The important TL;DR is that Trump can't declassify everything at will, and even if he declares something to be declassified it actually has to be physically declassified by the agency that those documents belong to first. All classified documents stay classified until the document has been properly marked and signed off as declassified by that agency and not a second earlier. If Trump skipped having those documents properly marked as declassified they still are legally considered to be classified, and thus the felonies would start piling in.
 
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Trump broke a shitton of laws, and I mean a shitton, in doing so, violated a shitton of procedure, and put the country that he larps about being a patriot for at severe risk. There's a reason why the arguments are "MUH HILLARY, MUH HUNTER BIDEN" and not "UHHH HE DIDN'T BREAK ANY LAWS AT ALL, ACTUALLY"
 

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If Trump skipped having those documents properly marked as declassified they still are legally considered to be classified, and thus the felonies would start piling in.
By all reports he was manically shoveling the documents into boxes to take with him during his final hours in the White House, after finally admitting to himself that he lost the election and wasn't going to be able to con his way into a second term. No chance he had the time to go through the proper channels to get them declassified, not that he's the type to follow protocol even if he had thought about doing it months prior.

He's facing up to 33 years in prison, according to legal experts. The lard ass has maybe 5 years left to live before the Big Macs finish him off. So there's a lot of wiggle room there.
 

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By all reports he was manically shoveling the documents into boxes to take with him during his final hours in the White House, after finally admitting to himself that he lost the election and wasn't going to be able to con his way into a second term. No chance he had the time to go through the proper channels to get them declassified, not that he's the type to follow protocol even if he had thought about doing it months prior.

He's facing up to 33 years in prison, according to legal experts. The lard ass has maybe 5 years left to live before the Big Macs finish him off. So there's a lot of wiggle room there.
On average, with average medical care in the USA. A man his age will live to 87 (11 more years).

https://www.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/longevity.cgi

But he is also very wealthy, not a smoker or alcohol user. He has a lot of factors that will likely mean living even longer than that.

I know he seems unhealthy, but from a doctor's perspective he is actually very well for someone his age. I wouldn't expect him to pass away anytime soon. All guys his age are eating unhealthy in my experience.
 

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