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I have to say it's really funny looking back at screenshots of my old posts and seeing me arguing constantly with Xzi about stupid shit thinking I was a "centrist" while just arguing right wing talking points.

Glad to see that division doesn't have to last forever. We just need people on the right to learn what they're talking about and quit arguing from ego, and rather from logic.
Were you morvoran in the past life?
 

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Nah, I was an old user here. I can DM you my old profile if you want. I think I even argued with you specifically LMAO
Sure why not, I'm curious. I don't take politics seriously anymore tbh. I don’t care as much anymore. And my opinions changed like you.
 

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You really are going to make this argument?
The same 3 that got protested outside their homes as public officials?

Okay. Because NONE of them were threatening the supreme court. Justices.Don't believe me?



Are they carrying weapons?
No?
Chanting loudly must be a weapon then right?

You REALLY want to challenge this? People have the right to be angry that their rights are being taken away. and protest. They are doing that without getting armed, without threatening violence. If your telling me picket signs are violence then well all is lost on you.

Meanwhile here you are playing the game of "Well what about (enter smear here)"


How about actual death threats to FBI agents that Trump leaked?

You think THAT'S warranted?

Because Trump gave the the copy of the warrent to someone, which contained the evidence of who he was searched by. And now they doxed those people
You think that's warranted after WE KNOW what people's lives become when they become sicked by YOUR MOB.

Alex Jones, a person that is in the right, made peoples lives hell for those who he defamed in sandy hook for years
His fans made them move over, and over and over. His fans kept chasing after them, kept finding them, kept threatening violence to them.

All to keep grifting and getting money out of his followers. Until he finally reccently, after a trial, after YEARS he admits that he KNEW that it was false and wrong.

And YOU are going to play the card of "Threatening their lives"

No fuck off. And your facist bullshit. No amount of whataboutism is going to going to make removing womens rights okay. And no amount of playing the victim card is going to make people believe you. Because your not the victim, your playing as the aggressor.

I would say that I hate to call our your ignorance, but it is kinda fun.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/man-c...o-kill-supreme-court-justice-brett-kavanaugh/
 

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Seriously believe what you want but for your information I am 54 years old know both Joe Biden and Donald Trump are corrupt. First Joe has used a lot of people $ from a lot of places to finance his pocket. Donald has filled bancupy to much to name and both have lied to the people. I wish so much someone would step forward who at least could help us and tell the damn truth but I know it won't happen!
How is filing for bankruptcy being corrupt? Many companies do it year in and year out.
 

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I agree that DeSantis would be a better candidate that Trump. A better President too.
If 'better' you mean better at being an asshole to LGBTQ+ people, then yeah... he's already being quite the cunt about that.
 

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If 'better' you mean better at being an asshole to LGBTQ+ people, then yeah... he's already being quite the cunt about that.
I think all of his rhetoric and policy are pretty common sensical but I can see how someone within that deranged bubble might feel threatened by it.
 
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I think all of his rhetoric and policy are pretty common sensical but I can see how someone within that deranged bubble might feel threatened by it.
Nothing deranged about it, he's a prick of a republican... Nuff said.
 
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DeSantis is a a**kisser and careerclimber and will do anything that furthers his cause.
You just described every single politician. Take for example, Liz Cheney, whose net worth went from $7 million to over $44 million during her 6 years in the House.
 

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You just described every single politician. Take for example, Liz Cheney, whose net worth went from $7 million to over $44 million during her 6 years in the House.
Which is why you should support positions that eliminate both parties and maximize the liberty of individuals.
 
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I already do. It's called decentralization of power. You should look into it someday.
If you support states having the ability to take away civil liberties from its citizens, you do not support liberty. If you have any opposition to states not being able to make laws against gay marriage for example, liberty is not your concern, and you should quit trying to adopt its aesthetic.
 
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If you support states having the ability to take away civil liberties from its citizens, you do not support liberty. If you have any opposition to states not being able to make laws against gay marriage for example, liberty is not your concern, and you should quit trying to adopt its aesthetic.
If you support the federal government having the ability to take away civil liberties from its citizens, you do not support liberty.

I think states and the federal government should get out of the marriage business, but once again, you want the federal government involved in all aspects of our lives.
 

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If you support the federal government having the ability to take away civil liberties from its citizens, you do not support liberty.

I think states and the federal government should get out of the marriage business, but once again, you want the federal government involved in all aspects of our lives.
Lol so you're in agreement then. Marriage equality is granting civil liberties under law to a marginalized group. It doesn't take anything away from anybody.
 

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If you support the federal government having the ability to take away civil liberties from its citizens, you do not support liberty.

I think states and the federal government should get out of the marriage business, but once again, you want the federal government involved in all aspects of our lives.
So just to clarify, can you tell me what your problem is with a nationally protected right to marriage?
 

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Lol so you're in agreement then. Marriage equality is granting civil liberties under law to a marginalized group. It doesn't take anything away from anybody.
If the state and federal governments were not in the marriage business, there would be nothing for them to grant. A couple would just go find somebody to officiate the wedding and they'd go about their business.

But the left doesn't want that. They want the federal government to step in and control every aspect of our lives.

I personally do not care who gets married. I also do not care who turns down requests to officiate any kind of weddings.
 
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