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The U.S. is more dangerously divided than any other wealthy democracy. Is there a way back from the brink? (Yascha Mounk)
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In other words, he brought a reality TV/fake wrestling mindset to politics. That's not a good thing. It's not a vote for fucking prom king, it's a vote for who you think can best handle the challenges facing the country, and he clearly couldn't handle any of them.
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Wrong, that's what American Idol is for. People should be taking a vote for president more seriously, but Trump's loonies are incapable of that either due to lack of education or lack of morals and ethics. The only Republicans who can actually expect to get something in return for their vote are the ultra-wealthy.
Obviously the executive branch has to make some important decisions, yes. Not all the decisions of the federal government, but still.
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If you truly believe the president has zero power in the federal government, and that every town drunk is fit to become president, then that certainly goes a long way toward explaining Bolsonaro's election.
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The most outlandish thing about this is that Camacho is actually a better president than Trump, since he sought out the smartest person on Earth to try to solve problems. Trump would never admit that there's anybody smarter than him. I suppose that's the difference between just being plain stupid, and being a stupid narcissist.
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I have to say it's really funny looking back at screenshots of my old posts and seeing me arguing constantly with Xzi about stupid shit thinking I was a "centrist" while just arguing right wing talking points.
Glad to see that division doesn't have to last forever. We just need people on the right to learn what they're talking about and quit arguing from ego, and rather from logic.
Glad to see that division doesn't have to last forever. We just need people on the right to learn what they're talking about and quit arguing from ego, and rather from logic.
Trump is very smart. Smarter than a lot of people here. He's even more informed too. He has the documents to prove it. People calling him stupid should quit arguing from ego, and rather from logic.
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To be fair I'm not the best at "de-programming." There is some common ground to be found between leftists and conservatives, which is why Bernie Sanders always interviews so well on Fox News. They can correctly identify some of the problems with our system, it's just that their solutions to those problems are misguided at best, malicious and deranged at worst. Attacking already-marginalized groups and communities is never going to solve anything, it's the capitalist class that are leeching off of all of us.
Living in conservative majority towns and cities most of my life has made my fangs grow a bit sharper than they need to be.
We're talking about a man that, by his own admission, doesn't read or exercise. If he was even a tiny bit smarter and/or less narcissistic, he'd be able to understand that a person like him should never be in charge of the country's well being. And if he wasn't born rich, he'd be flipping burgers at McDonald's (not that there's anything wrong with that). He's the ultimate representation of affluent white privilege.
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Okay let's get real here (mister orange face):
- The only papers he's got are stolen papers.
- IQ is hard to say, i never caught him in something smart, i've seen him cheat/street smart:
- Blaming others for your failing isn't smart.
- Making a marter of yourself when losing an argument isn't smart..
- Using fake religious arguments to justify your doings isn't smart.
- Tax fraud isn't a smart thing.
- From logic he failed before beïng president.
- He is plain stupid, not a moment of thinking needed.
- He is though good at playing the game of politics, more than any before and after him:
- Just a waste he's using it to hide his taxes.
- Just a waste he's using it to take rights from the people.
- Just a waste he made climate change worse.
- Just a waste he made USA more a communistic like country, without the bennefits (just taking the rights to be who you are).
- Something about his friends is alarming: putin, Kim Jong-un...
- He can't even speak normal (forget about formal) english.
- He's not confident.
- Looks weak.
- Doesn't have a clear view on where to go.
As long as USA president candidates are as old as these candidates, you don't seem to seek seriously for a good candidate.
There's a reason for retirement:
- Not understanding the changes anymore.
- Slow learning.
- High chance on health issues.
- Depending on way too many people.
- Puting religous thinking back where it doesn't belong.
- He want his youth back, and abuses the people to get there.
You'll need a leader of the pack (so biden is out), with a brain that functions in resolving crisises (so Donald is out, for he didn't sole one but he created a lot of crisis).
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Let's get back on topic:
'Margaret Sullivan
One thing I’ve wondered about reading your book is how concerned you are about the current state of American democracy, and really the state of global democracy. You come at it from a different point of view, suggesting this is just what democracy looks like, but how worried are you?
Sean Illing
Oh, I’m worried. I think the failure to see this distinction is making it more difficult for us to defend the liberal democracy that we have. Many of us want democracy to be a battle of ideas and policies, rooted in facts and evidence-based discourse.
But I really do see democracy as a competition of communication styles, where every imaginable kind of rhetoric and bullshit artistry and demagoguery is allowed to flourish. And that means it’s a fight, not just between arguments but between clashing rhetorics, between ways of thinking. And it is always, whether we recognize it or not, a battle for power.
So one concern I have is that I don’t think the Democratic Party in this country gets this. I really don’t. Even when they hold power, they seem incapable of exercising it. Why is that? There are probably lots of reasons. But one is that they can’t stop believing that democracy should be practiced in a certain way, and in a certain manner, and in accordance with certain rules. And I think that’s because they’re devoted to liberal democracy.
The Republicans are not devoted to liberal democracy. They’re actually willing to play dice with democracy. Republicans are saying, Look, almost half the country will follow us no matter what we do. Many of them only consume media that affirms their biases anyway. So let’s just seize and exercise power by any means necessary. The overturning of Roe v. Wade is an obvious recent example.
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Trump’s great contribution was to show the Republican Party what’s actually possible if you stop caring about the liberal democratic game and just go after power. So Democrats accept the constraints of liberalism, and Republicans ruthlessly exploit the advantages our media and our political system afford them. They’re playing different games.
I’m not claiming that liberal democracy is dead. I would never claim that. I mean, it’s a possibility. But I am saying that the age of liberal democracy is over. And that means that this long postwar period of mostly stable liberal democracy was a period in which a gatekeeping media system managed a norms-driven discourse. And that is over.
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-Sean Illing
https://www.vox.com/vox-conversatio...rsations-the-paradox-of-democracy-sean-illing
'Margaret Sullivan
One thing I’ve wondered about reading your book is how concerned you are about the current state of American democracy, and really the state of global democracy. You come at it from a different point of view, suggesting this is just what democracy looks like, but how worried are you?
Sean Illing
Oh, I’m worried. I think the failure to see this distinction is making it more difficult for us to defend the liberal democracy that we have. Many of us want democracy to be a battle of ideas and policies, rooted in facts and evidence-based discourse.
But I really do see democracy as a competition of communication styles, where every imaginable kind of rhetoric and bullshit artistry and demagoguery is allowed to flourish. And that means it’s a fight, not just between arguments but between clashing rhetorics, between ways of thinking. And it is always, whether we recognize it or not, a battle for power.
So one concern I have is that I don’t think the Democratic Party in this country gets this. I really don’t. Even when they hold power, they seem incapable of exercising it. Why is that? There are probably lots of reasons. But one is that they can’t stop believing that democracy should be practiced in a certain way, and in a certain manner, and in accordance with certain rules. And I think that’s because they’re devoted to liberal democracy.
The Republicans are not devoted to liberal democracy. They’re actually willing to play dice with democracy. Republicans are saying, Look, almost half the country will follow us no matter what we do. Many of them only consume media that affirms their biases anyway. So let’s just seize and exercise power by any means necessary. The overturning of Roe v. Wade is an obvious recent example.
[...]
Trump’s great contribution was to show the Republican Party what’s actually possible if you stop caring about the liberal democratic game and just go after power. So Democrats accept the constraints of liberalism, and Republicans ruthlessly exploit the advantages our media and our political system afford them. They’re playing different games.
I’m not claiming that liberal democracy is dead. I would never claim that. I mean, it’s a possibility. But I am saying that the age of liberal democracy is over. And that means that this long postwar period of mostly stable liberal democracy was a period in which a gatekeeping media system managed a norms-driven discourse. And that is over.
[...]'
-Sean Illing
https://www.vox.com/vox-conversatio...rsations-the-paradox-of-democracy-sean-illing
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I mean, yeah, you'd have to be an idiot to not think the Republican party has gone off the deep end. They straight up do not value empiricism whatsoever anymore. Something doesn't have to be true or grounded in any reality, these guys will just make shit up and believe it. Did you see that shit MTG was preaching about, where she thinks solar generators just stop working at night, as if no one installs batteries with them?? No one in the audience dared to say "Hey, what the fuck are you talking about you moron?"
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