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@Dakitten, @LainaGabranth, @Xzi, @Dark_Ansem and yourself have nothing of value to say. All you have are insults. Zero substance.
Is that better, sport?
If you want to know who rules, look at who we are not allowed to call out on social media without getting banned.
Really?
Okay, I too can play that game. I wanted to know who is in power of the next 23-25 years of what counts as constitutional, that be the supreme court right?
Oh wait. 3 of those members were appointed by a single president. Revoking people's rights. Golly.
It's almost like this argument your making is incredibly stupid.
Oh by the way, you know truth social? Yeah leftists (the very few ones who tried anyways) got banned there for providing evidence that countered that right wing hell hole. While here? I mean are you getting banned?
You mean the 3 Supreme Court members who just had their lives threatened by a crazed leftist? Those three?
You know the exact reason why leftists are getting banned from Truth Social? You know all of their stories? Do tell. I'm sure it will be fascinating reading.
I'm not calling anybody in positions of power out for their misdeeds here, so why would I be banned from here? As far as I know, I follow all the rules of this forum. I'm actually nicer to people than others are towards me. I don't even curse here.
You really are going to make this argument?
The same 3 that got protested outside their homes as public officials?
Okay. Because NONE of them were threatening the supreme court. Justices.Don't believe me?
Are they carrying weapons?
No?
Chanting loudly must be a weapon then right?
You REALLY want to challenge this? People have the right to be angry that their rights are being taken away. and protest. They are doing that without getting armed, without threatening violence. If your telling me picket signs are violence then well all is lost on you.
Meanwhile here you are playing the game of "Well what about (enter smear here)"
How about actual death threats to FBI agents that Trump leaked?
You think THAT'S warranted?
Because Trump gave the the copy of the warrent to someone, which contained the evidence of who he was searched by. And now they doxed those people
You think that's warranted after WE KNOW what people's lives become when they become sicked by YOUR MOB.
Alex Jones, a person that is in the right, made peoples lives hell for those who he defamed in sandy hook for years
His fans made them move over, and over and over. His fans kept chasing after them, kept finding them, kept threatening violence to them.
All to keep grifting and getting money out of his followers. Until he finally reccently, after a trial, after YEARS he admits that he KNEW that it was false and wrong.
And YOU are going to play the card of "Threatening their lives"
No fuck off. And your facist bullshit. No amount of whataboutism is going to going to make removing womens rights okay. And no amount of playing the victim card is going to make people believe you. Because your not the victim, your playing as the aggressor.
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Oh and remember the time on jan6th that the rioters there were armed and chanting kill mike pence?
But a bunch of protests with picket signs chanting about abortion rights is violence totally.
But a bunch of protests with picket signs chanting about abortion rights is violence totally.
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Yeah because every time I invite you to a real debate you bitch out.
I kindly ask to get back on topic.
'Drawing on the Variety of Democracies (V-Dem) data set, published by an independent research institute in Sweden that covers 202 countries and goes back more than two centuries, its authors assess to what degree each country suffers from “pernicious” levels of partisan polarization. Do their citizens have such hostile views of opponents that they’re willing to act in ways that put democracy itself at risk?
The authors’ conclusion is startling: No established democracy in recent history has been as deeply polarized as the U.S. “For the United States,” Jennifer McCoy, the lead author of the study and a political-science professor at Georgia State University, told me in an interview, “I am very pessimistic.”
On virtually every continent, supporters of rival political camps are more likely to interact in hostile ways than they did a few decades ago. According to the Carnegie study, “us versus them polarization” has been increasing since 2005. McCoy and her colleagues don’t try to explain the causes, though the rise of social media is obviously a contributing factor.'
'Drawing on the Variety of Democracies (V-Dem) data set, published by an independent research institute in Sweden that covers 202 countries and goes back more than two centuries, its authors assess to what degree each country suffers from “pernicious” levels of partisan polarization. Do their citizens have such hostile views of opponents that they’re willing to act in ways that put democracy itself at risk?
The authors’ conclusion is startling: No established democracy in recent history has been as deeply polarized as the U.S. “For the United States,” Jennifer McCoy, the lead author of the study and a political-science professor at Georgia State University, told me in an interview, “I am very pessimistic.”
On virtually every continent, supporters of rival political camps are more likely to interact in hostile ways than they did a few decades ago. According to the Carnegie study, “us versus them polarization” has been increasing since 2005. McCoy and her colleagues don’t try to explain the causes, though the rise of social media is obviously a contributing factor.'
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The post I replied to was nothing but whinging, what "facts" am I meant to break out in this scenario, hmm? Again, there's no point in going into deep political discussions with you when you're a Trump supporter who lives outside of reality. This is what your entire party looks like now:
I can't force you to wake up and realize you've been living in a cult, only you can do that. Maybe afterwards we can finally have reasonable, level-headed discussions.
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I do have a passion for bashing Nazi skulls in (let's say metaphorically so I don't get a warning/suspension). Trump just happens to be the face of modern American fascism, though the entire Republican party has followed him off the deep end, so he's hardly the only problematic individual within it now.
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Republicans have already committed to rigging elections rather than trying to fix their party's platform. If Trump is barred from running for office again, who they nominate next will tell us a lot about the direction they're headed in. If it's someone like DeSantis, they're too far gone to return to sanity.
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Oh I'm not wishing for it, and I certainly can't be blamed for who they nominate, I can just see the writing on the wall. Even before Trump came along, Republicans would always salivate over "strongman" authoritarians like Putin, so it's not surprising that they've decided to dive down this rabbit hole.
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Well if the only realistic options are Trump, or DeSantis if he can't run, then clearly the Republican party has no intent to return to any degree of moderation or sanity. We'd need more viable political parties in order to force them to have that "come to Jesus" moment, as it would divide their voter base.
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