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Trump is under investigation for potential violations of the Espionage Act
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https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/aug/09/comparing-hillary-clintons-emails-and-donald-trump/
mkay... sure.
We don't know what classification they were. but again mkay
I'm just sayin'. They got him this time. This is the beginning of the end for Drumpf!!!!!!
What do you mean, "you remember"? She managed to not get charged, let alone prosecuted, for four years straight under a president that had a campaign promise to lock her up. So no, you don't "remember" that. I also bet you haven't heard of TS/SCI before it became trending now either. At best you're parroting talkshow hosts who fabricate dystopian pasts ("remember when Hillary Clinton was godzilla and destroyed the twin towers on 9/11? I remember... And now so do you!").
After all this time since he removed them, who knows how many Copies have been made, or Posted onto Cloud Storage. You know he will use them as leverage.
11 years in the US Army in the Signal Corps would say that I have definitely heard of and am very familiar TS/SCI clearances. Don't assume everybody here is as ignorant as you are.
Thanks for being an example of buttery males and butter emails.
I bet your TDS addled smooth brain can't explain coherently why one person had their home raided and the other person didn't.
That's a fair response. You're right: i don't know you or whether or not you've heard of the actual terms for top secret documents. It's just that it's hard to believe when you post a statement that is already proven false multiple times years ago. @Nothereed posted a good link about that, which you don't exactly disprove with those memories of yours. That's why i presumed you're not as knowledgeable as you claim you are.
By the way... Do you want to prove me wrong or are you just going to take everything personal in this thread? I'll admit i have cause for that, and i apologize for it. But I'm not as ignorant as you claim you are. It's just that i've seen far too many people post propaganda instead of caring about an honest discussion. That's why my patience is wearing thin on statements that use logical fallacies to deflect attention from an issue.
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Let me put it this way: The documents he's holding, on top of giving nuclear secrets to our enemies if fallen into the wrong hands (And he's clearly had dealings with many of our enemies, which would justify recovering those documents) our spies are also under threat from this kind of shit. Opinions on military action and espionage aside, it would put our spies under genuine threat if they're outed from any messy handling of these documents.
It's "fucking paper," that just so happens to house genuinely some of the most important secrets to our entire country's military. So yes, it's a LIIIIIIIIIITTLE more important than "just fucking paper."
I want more softboi femboys on the tempThe way you make it sound, my heterosexual nature is being challenged. Soft skinned femboys, you say?
(also... This thread goes nuts in a faster tempo than usual)
One was hard documents and the other wasn't. Otherwise they would have "raided" everyone else that used a personal account for government information. Also, I doubt the email had info as big as nuclear information.
Now tell me why your Hillary or Obama Derangement Syndrome means Trump shouldn't be held accountable.
duhh ... NARA has 30 millions sheets of not classified OBAMA info in their possession in a government approved and secure location = ANYONE who pays for a suite in MAL can view nuclear documents because... OBAMA. . . That's how that works.
Apology accepted.
Hopefully, others can follow your example.
Considering that Comey and Hillary both admitted she had TS/SCI documents on her email server, I'm not even sure how you can even dispute it. Their statements are on video. You also cannot dispute that her house was never raided.
The only thing I take even slightly personal is when people bring my deceased parents into the conversation. It's childish and uncalled for. It shows bad debating skills when one has to use personal attacks.
I get propaganda and personal insults thrown at me every single day in these threads, but mostly personal insults. And it's the same half a dozen people day in and day out. They just can't resist. I think they all want to date me.
Sorry, but I can't find that video. And frankly, I'm not sure if there ever was one.
But lemme first state that you're correct in one thing: Clinton certainly had some top secret mails on her server. But from what i can find, they hadn't been given that clarification of the time they were sent (https://www.npr.org/2016/01/29/4648...-clinton-email-probe-persists?t=1660676157279). @Nothereed 's link also mentions that the clarification market wasn't clear. So the situation really isn't the same, even when not taking into account that physically moving boxes to an open resort is a different thing than having mails on your server. I guess that explains why her house wasn't raised, but even so... I don't see how that sets a precedent. Also: a certain president increased the penalty and severity on the crime, so of course the response for it is more severe.
Oh, and a bonus response: I've actually read Comey's book. He looks back on the situation as being out of proportion. I can't say i really believe him when he wrote he hadn't considered the political consequences to be what they became, but that's what he wrote.
You do know that all ex-presidents have an official office with a staff paid for by tax payers. They are also provided a SCIF. So these documents were not being housed at an open resort. That's why the FBI had to break locks to get in.
A server that is open to the internet with next to no security on it can be accessed by the CCP and the Russians. They wouldn't even have to leave their basements to look at all the TS/SCI documents on that server.
I've also worked in IT for the past 25 years with 11 of those years in the Army.
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Appeals court says DOJ can resume criminal investigation of classified documents from Mar-a-Lago. There was no evidence provided that Trump may have declassified any of the documents. The special master essentially concurred with this ruling just yesterday.
Sorry past me, nothing of value was said by them in just 2 pages.
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