The U.S. is more dangerously divided than any other wealthy democracy. Is there a way back from the brink? (Yascha Mounk)

Youkai · Aug 11, 2022

TraderPatTX said:
The media and fact checkers are some of the biggest liars. Remember when Russian collusion was fact? Remember when Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation? They are outing themselves and now have 11% approval with the people.

Same as allways they are not always right but also definietly not always wrong.

not sure about America though but in my Country they sometimes tend to not tell you everything to put you into the line they want to see you but its not like they are telling something completly wrong just taking your chance (if you don't research yourself) to make up your own opinion upon all available informations.

(different topic but same with Corona, in my country they were like "100 ppl a day are dying its so bad we need to vaccinate our children" then you look at official statistics saying yes 100ppl a day plus the usualy 3000 that die because of other stuff and also only 8 children died within the last 3 years due to covid .... so the panic they cause is completely bullshit at least directed at the "poor" kids that have to suffer because people don't take the vaccine)

AHB · Aug 11, 2022

I'll just leave this here as an accurate summary of the current state of affairs:

TraderPatTX · Aug 12, 2022

Youkai said:
Same as allways they are not always right but also definietly not always wrong.

not sure about America though but in my Country they sometimes tend to not tell you everything to put you into the line they want to see you but its not like they are telling something completly wrong just taking your chance (if you don't research yourself) to make up your own opinion upon all available informations.

(different topic but same with Corona, in my country they were like "100 ppl a day are dying its so bad we need to vaccinate our children" then you look at official statistics saying yes 100ppl a day plus the usualy 3000 that die because of other stuff and also only 8 children died within the last 3 years due to covid .... so the panic they cause is completely bullshit at least directed at the "poor" kids that have to suffer because people don't take the vaccine)

Of course our corporate media has to tell little truths. It makes passing off their big lies so much easier.

Dakitten · Aug 13, 2022

Jayro said:
That never made sense to me though. And if a felon did win president, what then? It's never been done before, and I don't think there's anything written if it were to happen.

Eugine Debs proudly won some whole percentage points from inside a cell!

TraderPatTX said:
Waking up is only the first steps of many steps. Waking up leads to action.

TraderPatTX said:
Of course our corporate media has to tell little truths. It makes passing off their big lies so much easier.

Take the red pill, Neo. See the world for what it truly is. Kansas is going bye-bye. :rolleyes:

TraderPatTX · Aug 13, 2022

Dakitten said:
Eugine Debs proudly won some whole percentage points from inside a cell!

Take the red pill, Neo. See the world for what it truly is. Kansas is going bye-bye.

You can choose to keep defending the corporate media all you want. They need all the clicks they can get from you. Remember, they are rich and you are not. So the next time you rail against the rich, I will remind you how you defend them.

Dakitten · Aug 13, 2022

TraderPatTX said:
You can choose to keep defending the corporate media all you want. They need all the clicks they can get from you. Remember, they are rich and you are not. So the next time you rail against the rich, I will remind you how you defend them.

Pretty sure Eugene Debs was the victim of corporate media 'till his last breath, comrade... unless you're getting defensive over my red pill comment, in which case I must be the one to break it to you that you are in fact the problem and not the solution to the country's ails. You're waking up in the minority, your pills are getting harder for the rest of the sane populous to swallow, and the most hopeful thing about the United States is that collectively your kind of ignorance is being recognized and denounced~

Get good. :grog:

tabzer · Aug 13, 2022

"The official narrative is the correct narrative."

Your "officials" aren't speaking words that represent reality. They speak the words that they want to see in history books. Spouting propaganda bolstering the US official position represents the desire to believe, not what is believed. Remember, you already elected Trump, which undermines the entire institution that got him elected. You never fixed the problem, you just try to handwave it as some sort of fluke, and somehow people are smarter now. The broken system is going to fix itself because politicians are inherently good? Ya, right. Pandora's box has been opened and you are trying to find shelter in an empty box.

Tell us about sanity.

Creamu · Aug 13, 2022

tabzer said:
"The official narrative is the correct narrative."

Your "officials" aren't speaking words that represent reality. They speak the words that they want to see in history books. Spouting propaganda bolstering the US official position represents the desire to believe, not what is believed. Remember, you already elected Trump, which undermines the entire institution that got him elected. You never fixed the problem, you just try to handwave it as some sort of fluke, and somehow people are smarter now. The broken system is going to fix itself because politicians are inherently good? Ya, right. Pandora's box has been opened and you are trying to find shelter in an empty box.

Tell us about sanity.

Is there a way back from the brink?

tabzer · Aug 14, 2022

Creamu said:
Is there a way back from the brink?

For who?

TraderPatTX · Aug 14, 2022

Dakitten said:
Pretty sure Eugene Debs was the victim of corporate media 'till his last breath, comrade... unless you're getting defensive over my red pill comment, in which case I must be the one to break it to you that you are in fact the problem and not the solution to the country's ails. You're waking up in the minority, your pills are getting harder for the rest of the sane populous to swallow, and the most hopeful thing about the United States is that collectively your kind of ignorance is being recognized and denounced~

Get good.

I'm am really going to enjoy watching you reeee on these threads over the next few months.

Creamu · Aug 14, 2022

tabzer said:
For who?

For those who rule at the moment.

Creamu · Aug 14, 2022

TraderPatTX said:
I'm am really going to enjoy watching you reeee on these threads over the next few months.

You mean like this:

Dakitten · Aug 14, 2022

TraderPatTX said:
I'm am really going to enjoy watching you reeee on these threads over the next few months.

And again, you ignore the substance and jerk yourself off on copium. Pity you can't ever back up your nonsense, but that is okay since I've been enjoying watching you make a fool of yourself since you joined~ :wub:

TraderPatTX · Aug 14, 2022

Creamu said:
You mean like this:

This is how I picture DAKitten, LainaGabranth, Nothereed, Xzi, Dark_Ansem when they reply to my comments with zero facts or substance. All they have are insults. :rofl2:

tabzer · Aug 14, 2022

Creamu said:
For those who rule at the moment.

We don't know who rules.

Deleted member 586536 · Aug 14, 2022

TraderPatTX said:
This is how I picture DAKitten, LainaGabranth, Nothereed, Xzi, Dark_Ansem when they reply to my comments with zero facts or substance. All they have are insults.

If your going to mention us @Dakitten @LainaGabranth @Xzi @Dark_Ansem
At least have the balls to do it.

LainaGabranth · Aug 14, 2022

Nothereed said:
If your going to mention us @Dakitten @LainaGabranth @Xzi @Dark_Ansem
At least have the balls to do it.

I mean we've established that he's a coward. Trader does not adopt any real positions based on evidence, he just thinks it's still 2014 and that "owning the libs" is a personality.

Xzi · Aug 14, 2022

TraderPatTX said:
when they reply to my comments with zero facts or substance. All they have are insults.

You mean when we reply to your posts which contain zero facts or substance. Why waste more time than I have to calling a dumbass a dumbass? I've got better things to do than school pre-teens on the internet who sleep with a Trump blowup doll. If the Biden supporters here were half as deranged or divorced from reality, I'd jump down their throats too.

Creamu · Aug 14, 2022

tabzer said:
We don't know who rules.

That is true, but we can make decent assumptions about them.

tabzer · Aug 15, 2022

Creamu said:
That is true, but we can make decent assumptions about them.

I don't know what I believe.

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