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What has changed?

In the United States, a recession is defined by the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) as "a significant decline in economic activity spread across the market, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP, real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales"




The people aren't "waking up". Trump barely won the presidency, then he lost the presidency, now everything has gone to shit and are looking to the president to fix it. But Biden was only ever elected to prevent Trump being elected.

What do you think they should be waking up from?
The last 10 times we have had 2 negative GDP quarters, a recession was called. For some reason, that has changed. Tell me you actually know the history you were actually alive when it happened.

So Biden wasn't elected to be a leader? He wasn't elected to run the country? I seem to remember many campaign promises of eliminating Covid and not raising taxes on anybody making less than $400k. You claim to be against disinformation/misinformation, yet people lie to your face and you still bow down to them.

"Biden was elected because I have TDS so bad and the mean tweets made me rageful."
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The last 10 times we have had 2 negative GDP quarters, a recession was called. For some reason, that has changed. Tell me you actually know the history you were actually alive when it happened.

So Biden wasn't elected to be a leader? He wasn't elected to run the country? I seem to remember many campaign promises of eliminating Covid and not raising taxes on anybody making less than $400k. You claim to be against disinformation/misinformation, yet people lie to your face and you still bow down to them.

"Biden was elected because I have TDS so bad and the mean tweets made me rageful."
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Seriously believe what you want but for your information I am 54 years old know both Joe Biden and Donald Trump are corrupt. First Joe has used a lot of people $ from a lot of places to finance his pocket. Donald has filled bancupy to much to name and both have lied to the people. I wish so much someone would step forward who at least could help us and tell the damn truth but I know it won't happen!
 

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But who is the criminal? If you go after people who work day to day but are blinded by the lies or the one's who lie and cheats all. One is easy the blind the lier is always protected and paranoid.
That's where discernment comes in.

What will they be preparing for?
Taking action like what we've seen with parents at school boards and during the primaries. People are running for and winning local elections. Local action = national impact.
 

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To me to simple an answer. So may not be informed. So of course won't give a damn. Some might even convert back the lies.
Why do people talk like people lying is a new concept? It's always been around, but suddenly, now the left wants to censor all speech they do not agree with. Where does the censorship stop? Who determines what is a lie and what isn't? That's why censorship, especially by government or oligarchic corporations is a dangerous slope to go down. Unfortunately, we've already started our decent to authoritarianism. This is what people are waking up to every day.
 
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Why do people talk like people lying is a new concept? It's always been around, but suddenly, now the left wants to censor all speech they do not agree with. Where does the censorship stop? Who determines what is a lie and what isn't? That's why censorship, especially by government or oligarchic corporations is a dangerous slope to go down. Unfortunately, we've already started our decent to authoritarianism. This is what people are waking up to every day.
Did I ever say they could not lie. No I said I don't like or trust them. Republican or Democrats. What is a lie is when someone says they have or will do something and don't.
 

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probably about 90% or even more of all humans on this planet are either stupid as hell or just completely ignorant to everything (which also is pretty much stupid) and thats not only in the US.

Even those who think they are the only ones knowing the truth (no only talkin about the conspiracy theorist but also pretty much every other organisation no matter what) all never think further then their own agenda and even though sometimes it "could" be possible to somehow get an agreement with proper facts and a good discussion, noone would listen anyways.

Its like everyone knows that if we go on as we do the world will sooner or later be so bad that we can't life on it anymore but then again most people don't care and others who care a lot want everyone to stop living yet for the chance to have a better future for the next generations ... I have to say yes we need to do something but I also wouldn't want to stop everything completly like traveling or heating my flat in winter or whatever even knowing it might be an important step into the right direction.

Same with everything else like most Trum Voters properly want the "American freedom" which also includs killing whoever they want with their weapons including the plante, which they feel thretened by people like Biden who tries to somehow manage to get all sides under one cover which can never work really well as usually this makes everyone feel angry as you are either for or against them and nothing inbetween.


Humans just suck :shit:
 
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Did I ever say they could not lie. No I said I don't like or trust them. Republican or Democrats. What is a lie is when someone says they have or will do something and don't.
But why is the left freaking out so much. Politicians and the media have been lying to us for decades, but now they are crying about it. Something changed to make them come out of the authoritarian closet and fly their fascist freak flags.
 

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probably about 90% or even more of all humans on this planet are either stupid as hell or just completely ignorant to everything (which also is pretty much stupid) and thats not only in the US.

Even those who think they are the only ones knowing the truth (no only talkin about the conspiracy theorist but also pretty much every other organisation no matter what) all never think further then their own agenda and even though sometimes it "could" be possible to somehow get an agreement with proper facts and a good discussion, noone would listen anyways.

Its like everyone knows that if we go on as we do the world will sooner or later be so bad that we can't life on it anymore but then again most people don't care and others who care a lot want everyone to stop living yet for the chance to have a better future for the next generations ... I have to say yes we need to do something but I also wouldn't want to stop everything completly like traveling or heating my flat in winter or whatever even knowing it might be an important step into the right direction.

Same with everything else like most Trum Voters properly want the "American freedom" which also includs killing whoever they want with their weapons including the plante, which they feel thretened by people like Biden who tries to somehow manage to get all sides under one cover which can never work really well as usually this makes everyone feel angry as you are either for or against them and nothing inbetween.


Humans just suck :shit:
A few typos like me but is my thoughts exactly. No side is completely wrong or completely correct. I just wished America would wake really up and see that we are all in the same land. Enough of this BS left right crap our government wants us devided. Always easier to rule by putting people against each other.

I am not freaking out I expect this really by both dem and rep.
But why is the left freaking out so much. Politicians and the media have been lying to us for decades, but now they are crying about it. Something changed to make them come out of the authoritarian closet and fly their fascist freak flags.

It called internet we can fact check but even some of it is lies as anyone can tell. News media always looks for dark it draws most attention. Or most wanted like scene News.
 
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A few typos like me but is my thoughts exactly. No side is completely wrong or completely correct. I just wished America would wake really up and see that we are all in the same land. Enough of this BS left right crap our government wants us devided. Always easier to rule by putting people against each other.

I am not freaking out I expect this really by both dem and rep.


It called internet we can fact check but even some of it is lies as anyone can tell. News media always looks for dark it draws most attention. Or most wanted like scene News.
The media and fact checkers are some of the biggest liars. Remember when Russian collusion was fact? Remember when Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation? They are outing themselves and now have 11% approval with the people.
 

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unfortunately so. There is no law preventing a convicted felon from running for president. Just from voting for one.
That never made sense to me though. And if a felon did win president, what then? It's never been done before, and I don't think there's anything written if it were to happen.
 

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unfortunately so. There is no law preventing a convicted felon from running for president. Just from voting for one.
No law can change the requirements to be president or vice president. That is why presidential term limits had to be a constitutional amendment. Same applies for Congress and every other elected office outlined in the Constitution.
 
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