Review Prey (2022)

CoolMe · Aug 9, 2022

Watched it yesterday.. I came in blind, as i didn't see the trailer before watching. I ended up liking it.. this is one of my favs this year.
Well, It has a nice story, well performed, paced and shot. Has a good soundtrack, nothing too memorable, but it fits for the pursuit, stealth and fighting sequences, and the one in the last scene was quite good..
I didn't find boring or anything, in fact i was pretty hooked from start to finish.

So if you have seen it, would love to hear your thoughts on it!

"A skilled Comanche warrior protects her tribe from a highly evolved alien predator that hunts humans for sport, fighting against wilderness, dangerous colonisers and this mysterious creature to keep her people safe."

Dark_Phoras · Aug 10, 2022

I enjoyed this movie very much. I was hooked from the start, because I have a soft spot for the native american setting. The movie shows nothing we haven't seen before, but the plot is well structured and well executed. I felt enraptured until the end, the suspense of never knowing if the Predator was nearby, the sense that no character was safe; Naru and her brother Taabe were flawed, and their strength was grounded in reality. They weren't stronger than the other humans and they didn't have immaculate hunting skills, the movie makes a good job of working with that - with the caveat of things often going their way.

I like the fact that there aren't forced connections with other movies that I could notice (I have only seen the original, but these connections are often noticeable), and that the designers had the freedom to reimagine the Predator's mask design, which I prefer like this. I enjoyed the attention to detail, like the depiction of the Comanche, their objects, clothes, and language. I found after that the actors were native americans, which is interesting, because their performances don't owe anything to those of well-established actors in other action/franchise pictures.

The cinematography is good, closer to The Revenant's than the montages full of cuts of most blockbuster movies. The fighting sequences are tense and nicely coreographed; it's a shame that the camera doesn't manage to track 100% of the action at all times, but that might be very difficult to achieve and require rare talent, as well as time. I think that the cinematography is one reason why the movie is so enthralling, there's a well-achieved sense of continuity, presence and mystery.

CoolMe · Aug 10, 2022

Dark_Phoras said:
I enjoyed this movie very much. I was hooked from the start, because I have a soft spot for the native american setting. The movie shows nothing we haven't seen before, but the plot is well structured and well executed. I felt enraptured until the end, the suspense of never knowing if the Predator was nearby, the sense that no character was safe; Naru and her brother Taabe were flawed, and their strength was grounded in reality. They weren't stronger than the other humans and they didn't have immaculate hunting skills, the movie makes a good job of working with that - with the caveat of things often going their way.

I like the fact that there aren't forced connections with other movies that I could notice (I have only seen the original, but these connections are often noticeable), and that the designers had the freedom to reimagine the Predator's mask design, which I prefer like this. I enjoyed the attention to detail, like the depiction of the Comanche, their objects, clothes, and language. I found after that the actors were native americans, which is interesting, because their performances don't owe anything to those of well-established actors in other action/franchise pictures.

The cinematography is good, closer to The Revenant's than the montages full of cuts of most blockbuster movies. The fighting sequences are tense and nicely coreographed; it's a shame that the camera doesn't manage to track 100% of the action at all times, but that might be very difficult to achieve and require rare talent, as well as time. I think that the cinematography is one reason why the movie is so enthralling, there's a well-achieved sense of continuity, presence and mystery.

I echo everything you just said here.

Dark_Phoras said:
there's a well-achieved sense of continuity, presence and mystery.

100%! Big contributor is how they didn't reveal the predator's face until the latter part of the movie, where they had a good reason for it (he was injured, and it fits with the cinematography where he was fighting multiple enemies (wide shots) .. The first part of the movie it's just him/it being invisible (and no face shots either), slow & stealthy which complements the threat & mystery to Naru finding out about this "thing" that keeps killing mercilessly, what it is and how it looks/its motives.. Etc.

Alexander1970 · Aug 10, 2022

CoolMe said:
So if you have seen it, would love to hear your thoughts on it!

I do not like this Movie.
For me,it is the worst Movie from the whole Franchise (yes,more worst than AvP....)

If we leave out the part that Trachtenberg ignored pretty much EVERYTHING about the pistol story, the movie isn't even good.
But ok how is he supposed to know anything about the spirit or history of the Predator thing when he was only 6 years old at the time....
Ok, Shane Black didn't do it any better either, and he should have known....
I'm not going to make a list (which would be infinite) of "points" here as to why I didn't like the movie at all, because I don't want to rob people who like this movie of their illusions.

Maybe watch Predator 1 and 2 again and then watch Prey again, maybe there will be a "difference" for these people for the first time...

Dark_Phoras · Aug 10, 2022

@Alexander1970 if you don't want to develop your opinion of the movie, don't say that it's because of us, it's because of you.

CoolMe · Aug 10, 2022

Alexander1970 said:
I do not like this Movie.
For me,it is the worst Movie from the whole Franchise (yes,more worst than AvP....)

Well uuh.. that's like your opinion, man!

Seriously, It's objectively good. Regardless if it follows the Predator plot or not..

Alexander1970 said:
If we leave out the part that Trachtenberg ignored pretty much EVERYTHING about the pistol story, the movie isn't even good.

I don't see why it's a such a big issue. It's just a nod moment to Predator 2/3 and it moves on, it's not the focus or anything..

Alexander1970 said:
But ok how is he supposed to know anything about the spirit or history of the Predator thing when he was only 6 years old at the time....

Who's the "6 year old"?

Alexander1970 said:
I'm not going to make a list (which would be infinite) of "points" here as to why I didn't like the movie at all,

Alexander1970 said:
because I don't want to rob people who like this movie of their illusions.

Nope. Again feel free to share your thoughts if you're comfortable in doing so.
There's no illusion or anything, it was simply a good movie.

Alexander1970 said:
Maybe watch Predator 1 and 2 again and then watch Prey again, maybe there will be a "difference" for these people for the first time...

Yes, of course there's a difference. And there's a difference between Predator 1 and 2 too (when it comes to the story, characters, setting, hell even the predator itself..), so why is this movie any different?

Marc_LFD · Aug 10, 2022

Haven't seen it yet, but it's getting great reviews all around.

Just a shame it went straight to streaming, I guess they were afraid of having another Predator 2018 disaster.

nWo · Aug 10, 2022

I liked it. I'm a Predator fan since 1991, I have 9 Kenner toys from the Aliens vs Predator line, and I have watched every movie. I liked this one, not VERY good, not SO bad, it's okay. I liked it, even if there are a good amount of things that I don't liked or are too goofy. But overall is a good enough.

One thing that I don't understand, is, in the AvP movie, they said that "thousands" of years ago Predators teached humans to build among many other things, and on this movie they say "one of the first predators on earth" so what the hell happened there?

This movie is good enough, but has some flaws in a few scenes, but nothing so bad as the "alien shield" from AvP

Alexander1970 · Aug 10, 2022

CoolMe said:
Well uuh.. that's like your opinion, man!
Seriously, It's objectively good. Regardless if it follows the Predator plot or not..

I don't see why it's a such a big issue. It's just a nod moment to Predator 2/3 and it moves on, it's not the focus or anything..

Never read PREDATOR:1718 ?
Maybe you should,so you maybe understand the "Pistol Story" and Trachtenbergs ignorance....

CoolMe said:
Who's the "6 year old"?

Trachtenberg,Director of "Prey"

CoolMe said:
Nope. Again feel free to share your thoughts if you're comfortable in doing so.
There's no illusion or anything, it was simply a good movie.

That is ok too.

CoolMe said:
Yes, of course there's a difference. And there's a difference between Predator 1 and 2 too (when it comes to the story, characters, setting, hell even the predator itself..), so why is this movie any different?

Trachtenberg says "It is the FIRST Visit of an Predator."...so he is also ignoring AvP..but thats ok...
....the Rest is Movie History after watching Part 1 and 2....

Alexander1970 · Aug 10, 2022

Dark_Phoras said:
@Alexander1970 if you don't want to develop your opinion of the movie, don't say that it's because of us, it's because of you.

Of course....

CoolMe · Aug 10, 2022

Alexander1970 said:
Never read PREDATOR:1718 ?

I assume this is a book? Nope, didn't read it.. I assume it's canon?

Alexander1970 said:
Maybe you should,so you maybe understand the "Pistol Story" and Trachtenbergs ignorance....

So if it is so important to the plot or to origin story of the Predator, why is it not shown or explained in the first two movies apart from that quick moment in Predator 2?

Alexander1970 said:
Trachtenberg,Director of "Prey"

Uh.. I don't understand the "6 year old part" you've said above..

Alexander1970 said:
That is ok too.

Alexander1970 said:
Trachtenberg says "It is the FIRST Visit of an Predator."...so he is also ignoring AvP..but thats ok...
....the Rest is Movie History after watching Part 1 and 2....

So AvP is canon now?

You still haven't said anything about the quality of the movie itself, apart from the Predator continuity details or pistol story..
Just replace the Predator with a different creature entirely, pretend you're not watching a a Predator movie.. Are you saying there wasn't anything about good at all? Like the mystery, choreography, cinematography etc.?

Alexander1970 · Aug 10, 2022

CoolMe said:
I assume this is a book? Nope, didn't read it.. I assume it's canon?

Yes,it is (from 1996).But ok,these Things count not today (Star Wars / Star Trek etc,etc...)

CoolMe said:
So if it is so important to the plot or to origin story of the Predator, why is it not shown or explained in the first two movies apart from that quick moment in Predator 2?

As I said - Comic is from 1996.

CoolMe said:
Uh.. I don't understand the "6 year old part" you've said above..

Trachtenberg was 6 Years young,when die original PREDATOR Film was released.

CoolMe said:
So AvP is canon now?

I do not say that in any Time.I said "I also do not like it" (in Context with "I do not like the movie Prey".)

CoolMe said:
You still haven't said anything about the quality of the movie itself, apart from the Predator continuity details or pistol story..

Really ? Must I ? Oh come on....

- Why is the Predator decapitated and his head taken to the village as a trophy? Usually they pick up their dead IMMEDIATELY (ASAP)...
- This orange stuff cools the blood....aha...something new, that was then "forgotten" in the newer films....
- Predator sees the bear (while pulling it out of the beaver burrow) but HER don't ??? No mud, no "orange stuff".....
- the hunt through the field? Sure, the Predator has one right away, it's twice as fast or what....? (Oh, I forgot, he had to skin that first and pull his trophy out of his back....)
- The "visor" as "self-shooting device...oh stop it........
- The "boomerang / return tomahawk" - I've never seen such nonsense before..... With the force of the part that heaves into the body / into the wood - NEVER is it so easy to retrieve...)
- Does the Predator just kill animals? Since when... the sight ALWAYS aims at weapons !! Where's the threat? The teeth or the evil eye?
- The fight against the French (??) - Really ???...... - Ok, people are stupid... but stupid enough to aim at the HEAD of the Predator when he extends his mini-shield ???
- mixed new and old Predator Technology (remember Trachtenberg said "it was the FIRST Predator on Earth...)

CoolMe said:
Just replace the Predator with a different creature entirely, pretend you're not watching a a Predator movie.. Are you saying there wasn't anything about good at all? Like the mystery, choreography, cinematography etc.?

The Predator Theme,I think I heard it.....

CoolMe · Aug 11, 2022

Spoiler warning:

Alexander1970 said:
- Why is the Predator decapitated and his head taken to the village as a trophy? Usually they pick up their dead IMMEDIATELY (ASAP)...

Why the Predator was decapitated at the end? Naru took his head to the village as a testament to her strength and perseverance, being a woman and all (specially in that time period), defying the customs & social rules.. But that is unrelated to the Predator story you say? And is there a rule to why the Predator's head shouldn't be cut and taken as a trophy?

Alexander1970 said:
- This orange stuff cools the blood....aha...something new, that was then "forgotten" in the newer films....

You mean forgotten in the first Predator movies, since their events happen in the future. Well that's no problem at all, that plant thing was native to their land, native Americans are known for their medicinal skills, so that became a plot device in the movie so she can lower her blood pressure & body heat so he wouldn't detect her presence..

Alexander1970 said:
- The "visor" as "self-shooting device...oh stop it........

So you're saying the helmet itself can't operate, track enemies or shoot by itself if it detects a threat? Let's just say that he left the Aim-assist option ON, and that was what led to his downfall..

Alexander1970 said:
- The "boomerang / return tomahawk" - I've never seen such nonsense before..... With the force of the part that heaves into the body / into the wood - NEVER is it so easy to retrieve...)

What boomerang? At first she uses the axe, and she's doing good at throwing it and target practice.. Later when she was after the wild bunny, after missing many shots, thought that maybe using it with a rope to quickly get it back if she misses a target, so she wouldn't vulnerable.. I don't see any problem her..

Alexander1970 said:
- Does the Predator just kill animals? Since when... the sight ALWAYS aims at weapons !! Where's the threat? The teeth or the evil eye?

Well, if this was the first time for the Predator to be here on earth, he had to evaluate which is strongest opponent or creature.. He doesn't know if a snake is powerful or not until he fights/ kills it, same for the bear and others.. The Buffalo herd killing was the French's doing not the Predators, i understand why that might be a problem but it's not him..

Alexander1970 said:
- The fight against them French (??) - Really ???...... - Ok, people are stupid... but stupid enough to aim at the HEAD of the Predator when he extends his mini-shield ???

Maybe you should ask the French about that..

Alexander1970 said:
- mixed new and old Predator Technology

It wasn't that flashy, apart from the fight sequence with the French, when he pulls out the shield and the spear thing, nothing too outrageous really..

Alexander1970 · Aug 11, 2022

CoolMe said:
Spoiler warning:

Why the Predator was decapitated at the end? Naru took his head to the village as a testament to her strength and perseverance, being a woman and all (specially in that time period), defying the customs & social rules.. But that is unrelated to the Predator story you say? And is there a rule to why the Predator's head shouldn't be cut and taken as a trophy?

You mean forgotten in the first Predator movies, since their events happen in the future. Well that's no problem at all, that plant thing was native to their land, native Americans are known for their medicinal skills, so that became a plot device in the movie so she can lower her blood pressure & body heat so he wouldn't detect her presence..

So you're saying the helmet itself can't operate, track enemies or shoot by itself if it detects a threat? Let's just say that he left the Aim-assist option ON, and that was what led to his downfall..

What boomerang? At first she uses the axe, and she's doing good at throwing it and target practice.. Later when she was after the wild bunny, after missing many shots, thought that maybe using it with a rope to quickly get it back if she misses a target, so she wouldn't vulnerable.. I don't see any problem her..

Well, if this was the first time for the Predator to be here on earth, he had to evaluate which is strongest opponent or creature.. He doesn't know if a snake is powerful or not until he fights/ kills it, same for the bear and others.. The Buffalo herd killing was the French's doing not the Predators, i understand why that might be a problem but it's not him..

Maybe you should ask the French about that..

It wasn't that flashy, apart from the fight sequence with the French, when he pulls out the shield and the spear thing, nothing too outrageous really..

Ok,it seems you like the Movie.

Dark_Phoras · Aug 11, 2022

CoolMe said:
Spoiler warning:

Why the Predator was decapitated at the end? Naru took his head to the village as a testament to her strength and perseverance, being a woman and all (specially in that time period), defying the customs & social rules..

I have issues with this interpretation. It's true that she faced some social resistance, but this resistance was only in conversation. Every hunter took the head of their first prey, and of major prey, as a sign of their valour and to show the tribe that a certain menace existed and was erradicated. She hunted frequently, she learned and was trained, she led the hunting party for her tracking skills.

CoolMe · Aug 11, 2022

Dark_Phoras said:
I have issues with this interpretation. It's true that she faced some social resistance, but this resistance was only in conversation. Every hunter took the head of their first prey, and of major prey, as a sign of their valour and to show the tribe that a certain menace existed and was erradicated.

Why not both? In her case..

subcon959 · Aug 15, 2022

I watched the Comanche dubbed version as I couldn't get through 10 minutes of the dumb American accents, but I ended up enjoying this way more than any other Predator movie since the first (which is in my top 5 of all time favourite movies).

Cyan · Aug 29, 2022

I watched a version with some comanche dub/sub, which quickly switched to english and french.
What I want to say, as a French, I appreciated that the version I watched had the french subtitles in french !

big Rant from me (not for this movie, but in general):
In a lot of movies, when American actors want to speak french, they are butchering the accent and it's not understandable ! it's okay, I don't ask that they speak perfect french, even if it would sound better to have real french actors playing any french guy.
But, what I dislike in general when watching a movie in "VO SUB FR", is that the french part of the movies DOES NOT provide subtitles for these parts, because "why sub french, if it speak french ?"
And I end up not understanding anything they are trying to say phonetically XD
I can't read subtitle... and I can't hear it either because that's so badly pronounced...

At least, in Prey I managed to understand the french accent, and later understood it was in fact Quebecois more than real french. it's a phonetically not so well pronounced Quebecois then

In Prey, it had subtitles for each language in their own language, that's original, and I liked it ! it's in french for french part, comanche for comande speaking parts, english for english speaking parts. That's an interesting way to do it, but I suppose english people who don't speak french will not understand anything.
I like that because I understand both english and french, but I wonder what other people think about that ?

DaFixer · Aug 29, 2022

Saw that movie few week ago, good movie!

CoolMe · Aug 30, 2022

Cyan said:
I watched a version with some comanche dub/sub, which quickly switched to english and french.
What I want to say, as a French, I appreciated that the version I watched had the french subtitles in french !

big Rant from me (not for this movie, but in general):
In a lot of movies, when American actors want to speak french, they are butchering the accent and it's not understandable ! it's okay, I don't ask that they speak perfect french, even if it would sound better to have real french actors playing any french guy.
But, what I dislike in general when watching a movie in "VO SUB FR", is that the french part of the movies DOES NOT provide subtitles for these parts, because "why sub french, if it speak french ?"
And I end up not understanding anything they are trying to say phonetically XD
I can't read subtitle... and I can't hear it either because that's so badly pronounced...

At least, in Prey I managed to understand the french accent, and later understood it was in fact Quebecois more than real french. it's a phonetically not so well pronounced Quebecois then

In Prey, it had subtitles for each language in their own language, that's original, and I liked it ! it's in french for french part, comanche for comande speaking parts, english for english speaking parts. That's an interesting way to do it, but I suppose english people who don't speak french will not understand anything.
I like that because I understand both english and french, but I wonder what other people think about that ?

Interesting points about the subtitles..
I actually don't remember if they showed English subs during the Canadian/French scenes.. Also thought the French accent wasn't accurate, though i gave it a pass 'cause they're supposed to be Canadians and not exactly French, and probably that's how they sounded back then..

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