Texas Board of Education receives proposal to change term slavery to "involuntary relocation"

lolcatzuru · Jul 10, 2022

Nothereed said:
How sad would it be to the moron to realize that Texas is a Red State, and controlled by Republicans, Republicans who put that suggestion in. would suck to look like the idiot in the room.

looked up neil shanks, saw "he/him" yep seems like a republican to me.

Deleted member 586536 · Jul 10, 2022

lolcatzuru said:
looked up neil shanks, saw "he/him" yep seems like a republican to me.

would suck if someone failed to read

While involuntary relocation isn’t an entirely unknown term in social studies, it often “has relationships to refugees and forced displacement due to violence or ethnic cleansing,” said Neil Shanks, clinical assistant professor of middle and secondary education at Baylor University.

He was one of the people that opposed it. Damn you gotta read before making a fool out of yourself.

In this case, Shanks added, the term appeared to be “intended to water down the issue of slavery.”

lolcatzuru · Jul 10, 2022

Nothereed said:
would suck if someone failed to read

While involuntary relocation isn’t an entirely unknown term in social studies, it often “has relationships to refugees and forced displacement due to violence or ethnic cleansing,” said Neil Shanks, clinical assistant professor of middle and secondary education at Baylor University.

He was one of the people that opposed it. Damn you gotta read before making a fool out of yourself.

In this case, Shanks added, the term appeared to be “intended to water down the issue of slavery.”

nah im good, thanks

Deleted member 586536 · Jul 10, 2022

lolcatzuru said:
nah im good, thanks

So are you one of those people likes to read headlines, and not read the article? If so, you really should have a
"I'm stupid" sticker. And then when your called out for not reading. Whining and deflecting away from being called out. Maybe you should get "a special snowflake" sticker too!

lolcatzuru · Jul 10, 2022

Nothereed said:
So are you one of those people likes to read headlines, and not read the article? If so, you really should have a
"I'm stupid" sticker. And then when your called out for not reading. Whining and deflecting away from being called out. Maybe you should get "a special snowflake" sticker too!

why would snowflake apply to me? im not a liberal?

Creamu · Jul 10, 2022

Nothereed said:
That's unrealistic:
Humans are a social species, unless drastic change occur.

Yes and certain subsections of humanity have been subject to drastic changes throughout their recent evolutionary history.

Nothereed said:
There will never be a "evolutionary stragety" that makes them view others as none human.

That is a usual occrance in evolution.

Nothereed said:
The only strategy that makes it possible is through rhetoric and getting society to agree with that rhetoric and dehumanizing them.

Rhetoric (sophistication) is an important mechanism here. There are population that are doing that to themselves. Christians have it in their bible that a witch shouldn't be left alive, for example.

Nothereed said:
It is not a recent invention. It's just an evolution of feudalism, fedualism 2.0. We ditched lords and serf titles, and went to CEO, manager, and worker.

Feudalism is relativly recent as well.

Nothereed said:
It is still a top down system. The workers don't get to pick their boss in late stage capitalism. It is the CEO, who chooses the managers, in which the managers themselves choose more managers, and those managers pick workers.

Yes, that because they see them as cattle, it's bound to fail in the long run.

Nothereed said:
And whatever is dished at the workers, they have to just deal with it, or be fired. Right to work states amright?

Yes.

Nothereed said:
Instead of getting housing via a knight or lord, doing everything they ask as the serf. The peasants now use a thing to represent power,only obtained from those with a lot of that represented power, to temporarily own land by those lords or different ones.
Structurally, nothing much has changed. The peasants are still poor, not in any condition to vouch themselves, while the lords get to change everything at their whim.

Yes, it is decadence.

Nothereed said:
Sounds like our company hell life doesn't it? There's no such thing as crony capitalism. If it makes profit, capitalism will do it.

Capitalism is willing do things that don't make sense under the lense of profit. It just a tool of power. These people don't care. If communism shows itself to work better they will go for that. If they get the impression that running their empire under two different system at once (communism and capitalism) they will do this as well. These people care about their self intrest not capitalism or money itself.

Nothereed said:
There's no sense of morals with it. If the merchants then realized it would make them money, they will do so.

They are happy to rule the world without money if that works better for them.

Nothereed said:
Even if it means enslaving others, and selling them off. Why wouldn't they do it now?

They are doing it now. They are engaged in literal human trafficing, sexslaves of all kinds, organs of adults and children. They don't care.

Nothereed said:
Sure we banned it via a government. But scam call centers are illegal, and still exist, now don't they?

Yes.

Nothereed said:
Umm, no It's a pretty simple answer.

No, try to explain money to a person with an IQ of 50 and then try self interest.

Nothereed said:
I only explained obivious pretext. People want money because system demands, it, so people make more money.

Yes, that's the mechanism to make things move. It's not the motivator of the people who call the shots.

Nothereed said:
That's more simple than "evolutionary interest"

Not at all.

Nothereed said:
whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.

Life on earth exists because every organism has an implicit interst to exist. It is the most basic fact of life on earth.

Nothereed said:
Which by the looks of it, is something used to explain away the crime that was racism and slavery.

People who have a deep self interest that excludes other groups, wont react to your appeal here at all. For some humans it was a more successful strategy do disregard others. If you think you will rule an empire because you are an altruistic type you couldn't be more wrong.

Nietzsche the kind of appeal you do slave morality. The slave has morals the king has his position.

Nothereed said:
No, but it's not just material that you get from money now is it?

Capitalism is gloryfied materialism.

Nothereed said:
It's power. Power is money.

No, power is power. Money is just a tool.

Nothereed said:
Lobbying, sending money to politician campaigns. Those aren't exactly material, but the actions afterwords, do effect it material circumstances. Again, capitalism itself puts all it's power into money.

No, in capitalism people who work together with their capital can overpower others with their buying power. Money is a tool of war without bullets. If your group is unwilling/able to work together in its own interest in this context you are in a tough spot.

Nothereed said:
Those with more money are able to extract more money. It cannot come out of nowhere, so it has to come at the cost of majority of people.

As long as they don't collectivise in their own interest.

Nothereed said:
No, It's if we switched branches from the bs we've been fed for the last 30 years. Trickle down economics, just vote, grind culture. All of it. Is just a bs excuse to treat humans as shit, by those who already have money, and thus power.

You are right. The people doing this are sprititual in a dark sense.

smf · Jul 10, 2022

lolcatzuru said:
why would snowflake apply to me? im not a liberal?

republicans are the biggest snowflakes. Just look how long they moaned about abortion, they even had to get a criminal into the white house to get what they want. I bet they start crying again when abortions get legalized.

it's not abortion, it's voluntary miss carriage

Xzi · Jul 10, 2022

The Ohio GOP is now looking to advance a bill that would require schools to teach "both sides" of the Holocaust. FFS.

XDel · Jul 10, 2022

Nothereed said:
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I'd rather not. Why? I question his rhetoric.
Sowell assessed President George W. Bush as "a mixed bag" but "an honorable man

George bush and Obama should be prosecuted as war criminals for the countless drone strikes. There is no honor in bombing countless lives out of existence.

Then we have this statement which is factually just incorrect.

"During interviews in 2019, Sowell defended Trump against charges of racism"
Trump has been racist, on the campaign trail in 2016 I staunchly remember him calling Mexican's rapists and criminals, along with more of the dog whistle "illegals"
And the reason I know this, is because
A. Formerly a Republican back in 2016
B. Had a Mexican Friend, which heavily helped me combat my own racism, due to the conflict of interests between a political idealogy, and me supporting them. (this conflict also helped me see through the trans fear mongering bs)
C. My mother used the same exact rhetoric. Followed by "they are out to take your job. and social security benefits" Even though my logic was telling me that didn't make sense. 4 years later, I managed to make my mother less racist. And realized that my logic wasn't off, but missing the key issue. Which was companies maliciously getting people over illegally, so they could then use that to suppress their wage and increase their own profits.

Then We have his statement of Biden. I hate Biden. But I know he's more like milk toast trash, than a nuclear bomb to go off like Trump. Since at this point, Trump is blatently a facist. You have cult of the leader, you have ultra nationalism, statements saying "we'll make X great again" and a lot of statements stating that X took away from Y. Even when it's provably false. Along with blurring the lines between fact and fiction. So I call into question his rhetoric and legitimacy on the topic. History isn't written by one person.

I see Bush and his father as pure evil, though not everyone knows every factoid about everything and everyone, so I can't fault Sowell for not seeing the full extend of Bush's evilness at the time of his quote.

Trump isn't racists, you are just being a baby about it. To be racist means that you believe one race is more superior than another. To be prejudiced on the other hand, is to pre-judge someone or something before you've taken the time to fully come to know and understand them. What Trump is doing on the other hand is Trolling people like you by playing upon racial stereo or cultural stereotypes, which surprise surprise, ring true from time to time. It's called Comedy.

You see, a few years after 9-11 I moved out to Arizona and began working at an Arab cafe. A ton of wealthy kids from the Middle East, Africa, and such live in Arizona because of the climate, and because it's one of if not the easiest state to get a green card in. So being the only white guy at an Arab cafe, I was not well liked at first. My co-workers accepted me, but not the customers. Though about two or three weeks in, they had time to get to know me, and we all hit it off great. So one of the things we began doing to make the situation amusing for our selves is we taught each other the worst cultural and racists insults in each other's language and began addressing each other by them.

You're generation is too self important, unforgiving, mis-understanding, and thin skinned.

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