At the very least, people who can't give birth should agree they like having bodily autonomy rights and think everyone else should have them too.
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Roe V Wade has been repealed
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No, I'm not dumb enough not to get a kid with a woman that I don't love. Even if a woman get pregnant by me, I can't decide anything. It's still her body, not mine.
I however would say that men should have the option to opt-out if the woman wanna keep the kid.
Well, she can terminate the pregnancy right?
You can't have the cake and eat it as well, in my book that is. Still, this isn't what it is about.
Abortion rights should literally be decided by women. It's a medical or worst case a surgical procedure.
Men should have no say in it, personally.
If they have a uterus, it's up to said person still. Since a vast majority of the worlds women are, well biologically female. I kept the word "Women" not need to explain myself for this. Please do try to create drama for dramas sake.
If you propose that if women have the choice to force a birth the man doesn't want, and man has the choice to opt out of child he doesn't want to raise or child support he doesn't want to pay, basically otp out of the consequences of having a kid then that'll put pressure on the mom to get an abortion so that she's not left a single mom. That's I guess a man's way of forcing a soon to be mom to get an abortion. Or maybe not force but put pressure towards abortion on the women.
That's the risk you have to take if you had unprotected sex! You literally try to make up a scenario at this very moment, and of course it will happen. It can already happen today a woman keeps the kid and force a man to pay child support. It goes same way. So yes, that can happen. It will most likely happen, and still. It's their body, not mine.
If a woman want to keep the kid, but the man doesn't. Yes, they should be able to have a way to opt out.
If a man wanna keep the kid, but the woman doesn't. Yes, they should be able to have a way to terminate the pregnancy.
See how simple that was?
I've asked several times for your position on bodily autonomy and states' bans of abortion, and you continue to dodge and obfuscate.
Simple in words. Not that simple in today's world since there are women out there that want to take advantage of this and want to squeeze out as much money as they can from the man. There is no opting out for the man.
Try to argue to make opting out a thing. You won't be granted that. People will see you as a crazy dead beat lazy dad that won't be there for their kids. Women have full control in this situation. And the law supports the women. So the only solution for man to avoid all this is 0 sex.
Then this topic isn't about that. That's absolutly that needs to be discussed. But for abortions, I personally feel women should have the right to dictate the discussion about for vs against. Since they are they're the once who's body it's about! That's why these 93 pages feel so strange since I mostly seen men arguing against men. This topic kind of have played it's course a long time ago.
About three and half cat? I don't have those statistics nor do I care.
Of course, I know that. I mostly hoped in and tried to steer away the off-topicness plus it just turned absurd now.
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