Roe V Wade has been repealed

Deleted member 114266 · Jun 29, 2022

wartutor said:
Should read truth detector....

Re-read what you originally commented on.

Now we have the ethical members of the house and the senate to lead us while they rest in one of their several multi-million dollar mansions they bought on their 180K/yr salary. It's nice having people in power that work for us rather than being corrupt and enriching themselves.

That's not setting off your sarcasm detector? You might need to get it calibrated.

Deleted member 114266 · Jun 29, 2022

SyphenFreht said:
That sounds a little odd considering he pulled troops out of Afghanistan, unless the goal was to move toward better trade with Russia, which would've been quite the debacle now had it went that way.

I'm not clear on what US troops in Afghanistan have to do with US energy production, could you clarify?

US production wouldn't have included any resources from them, and their country wasn't one we were exporting energy to.

LainaGabranth · Jun 29, 2022

What similarities does this thread share to abortion???

Xzi · Jun 29, 2022

BitMasterPlus said:
Just like you. You claim others are, but you're just as bad or worse.

I use what small platform I have to advocate for more freedoms and to defend the ones we already have. You and Thomas choose to use your platforms to wave the confederate flag (if not also the swastika). I couldn't possibly care less what a pre-teen wehraboo thinks he has to teach me about morality and ethics.

SyphenFreht · Jun 29, 2022

SScorpio said:
I'm not clear on what US troops in Afghanistan have to do with US energy production, could you clarify?

US production wouldn't have included any resources from them, and their country wasn't one we were exporting energy to.

I was referring to the "oil war" we've been having off and on in the middle east for decades. I'm curious to know if we finally gave up over there or just happened to be on the verge of a better deal on oil trade because of Trump and Putin's friendship.

Chaosta · Jun 29, 2022

meh. someone ring me when mens rights regarding children is being talked about.

maybe then ill care about a females "decision".

Dark_Ansem · Jun 29, 2022

Chaosta said:
meh. someone ring me when mens rights regarding children is being talked about.

Elaborate.

hippy dave · Jun 29, 2022

BitMasterPlus said:
Just like you. You claim others are, but you're just as bad or worse.

Are the hot one's this bitch talking about the one's here? Including her? Because oh man, all those men are truly missing out then.

mrdude said:
All I'll say to the blue haired fat munters that think men want to get in about them is - Women Know Your Limits!I recommend you watch this video so you learn how to act in civilised company.

And for the easily led women out there - thinking about sex: Look Listen & Take Heed Women Keep Your Virtue.

For the virgins amonst you - this is how we "do it" in England.

Yes, ok, ok, you're misogynistic pieces of shit, we get it, you don't have to keep yelling it at every possible opportunity. It's not as if it weren't already obvious from your support of law changes that are blatantly designed to control those with uteruses.

smf · Jun 29, 2022

Foxi4 said:
I’m not sure which part of the pandemic response was “capitalist”, exactly. If anything, the opposite is true. The free market ground to a halt by government mandate, what’d you expect to happen?

The free market was going to grind to a halt no matter what, all the mandates did was make it controllable and have less of an impact.

mrdude · Jun 29, 2022

hippy dave said:
Yes, ok, ok, you're misogynistic pieces of shit, we get it, you don't have to keep yelling it at every possible opportunity. It's not as if it weren't already obvious from your support of law changes that are blatantly designed to control those with uteruses.

The abortion law changes were never in the constitiution, the law change only means individual states can make their own laws up, as I am sure you already know. Nobody is controlling anyone - if someone gets pregnant it's down to their own actions. Some states will change the laws to protect the life of the baby, a baby is still a human and should have the same rights as the mother. If you ask me they should also change the law so men get a say in pregnancy, after all it's half their child and they are expected to pay for it as well. It's unfair how it's only the woman that gets to make the choice - sexist against men in fact.

Even in communist China since 2002 men have an equal say as the women and can sue the woman if she has an abortion - it's time the west got with the program instead of being backwards - equal rights for men!

Deleted member 114266 · Jun 29, 2022

SyphenFreht said:
I was referring to the "oil war" we've been having off and on in the middle east for decades. I'm curious to know if we finally gave up over there or just happened to be on the verge of a better deal on oil trade because of Trump and Putin's friendship.

My feelings on that is that the US's relationship with multiple Middle Eastern countries was better under Trump

But that wouldn't affect the US being energy independent. If anything it should scare them as we can show we don't need them.

hippy dave · Jun 29, 2022

mrdude said:
The abortion law changes were never in the constitiution, the law change only means individual states can make their own laws up, as I am sure you already know. Nobody is controlling anyone - if someone gets pregnant it's down to their own actions. Some states will change the laws to protect the life of the baby, a baby is still a human and should have the same rights as the mother. If you ask me they should also change the law so men get a say in pregnancy, after all it's half their child and they are expected to pay for it as well. It's unfair how it's only the woman that gets to make the choice - sexist against men in fact.

Even in communist China since 2002 men have an equal say as the women and can sue the woman if she has an abortion - it's time the west got with the program instead of being backwards - equal rights for men!

Those poor underprivileged men! :rofl2:

Lacius · Jun 29, 2022

mrdude said:
Nobody is controlling anyone.

States are controlling women by taking away their bodily autonomy rights.

mrdude said:
Some states will change the laws to protect the life of the baby, a baby is still a human and should have the same rights as the mother.

Even if we granted a fetus the same rights as the mother, we would still have to grant it special rights that nobody else has in order to allow it to be able to violate a woman's right to bodily autonomy.

You presumably don't think the state should be able to violate your bodily autonomy rights for the sake of my life, so I don't know why you think the state should be able to violate a woman's bodily autonomy rights for the sake of a fetus's life.

mrdude said:
If you ask me they should also change the law so men get a say in pregnancy, after all it's half their child and they are expected to pay for it as well. It's unfair how it's only the woman that gets to make the choice - sexist against men in fact.

Men are wholly irrelevant to a woman's bodily autonomy, so the decision to terminate a pregnancy literally has nothing to do with them.

hippy dave · Jun 29, 2022

Imagine unironically believing that you should get to decide that someone else has to go through an expensive, exhausting, physically and emotionally traumatic nine-month ordeal that permanently changes their body, against their consent, just because you can't find someone who actually wants to reproduce with you. Maybe work on your people skills instead.

mrdude · Jun 29, 2022

Lacius said:
Men are wholly irrelevant to a woman's bodily autonomy, so the decision to terminate a pregnancy literally has nothing to do with them.

They mans genetic material makes up half the child, men have the right in many (quite a few) countries to say what happens to their child.

See here for more info:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternal_rights_and_abortion

In 2011, it was reported that Indonesia, Malawi, Syria, United Arab Emirates, Equatorial Guinea, Kuwait, Maldives, Morocco, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Japan, Taiwan and Turkey all had laws which required that an abortion first be authorized by the woman's husband. However, in some countries, this stipulation could be bypassed or overridden if there is genuine concern for maternal health.

In 2022, men in the west still don't get a say on whether there kid gets to live or die (before it's born) yet are expected to pay for them, whether they want the child or not. The men should be able to force the woman to have the child and then take if from her once it's born if the woman wants to abort, then the man should be able to force the woman to pay for the upkeep of the child - that would then make men and women equal. But we all know women don't want equal rights - they want special rights.

With the states being able to ban abortions, this is the first step to correct this unjustice upon men, hopefully more laws will be passed in the future to give men an equal footing, but for now men are treated unfairly and almost as second class citizens.

Lacius · Jun 29, 2022

mrdude said:
They mans genetic material makes up half the child.

As I said, that has nothing to do with a woman's bodily autonomy, so it's irrelevant.

Edit: the only ones being treated as "second class citizens" are women, as they're the only ones who have been told their bodily autonomy rights don't matter.

AmandaRose · Jun 29, 2022

mrdude said:
All I'll say to the blue haired fat munters that think men want to get in about them is - Women Know Your Limits!I recommend you watch this video so you learn how to act in civilised company.

And for the easily led women out there - thinking about sex: Look Listen & Take Heed Women Keep Your Virtue.

For the virgins amonst you - this is how we "do it" in England.

This is fucking hilarious simply because.

Harry Enfield is well known to be a supporter of the left.

He along with his family have donated huge amounts of money to the British Labour Party

He has done numerous things in support for workers/women/lgbt rights and everything else you can think of the left support.

He made a number of comedy skits showing the lunacy of the right and their misogynistic view's

And now we have the very type of person he hates trying to use some of his skits for their own purpose without them even realising that Harry made the skits to show how ridiculous their right wing views are.

Definitely a case of

mrdude · Jun 29, 2022

Lacius said:
As I said, that has nothing to do with a woman's bodily autonomy, so it's irrelevant.

What's irrelevant it the views of every single person on this forum and everyone that doesn't make the state laws.

The law is the only thing that's relevant and the law has spoken.

Many women will be screeching for a few days, but when it comes down to it they will abide by the laws of the state or they will need to go somewhere else to get their abortions. That's the only thing that's relevant.

Foxi4 · Jun 29, 2022

smf said:
The free market was going to grind to a halt no matter what, all the mandates did was make it controllable and have less of an impact.

You don’t actually know that without a control. Sweden didn’t have a formal lockdown and their COVID-19-related deaths aren’t excessive compared to the rest of Europe. Everything depends on the country in question, its climate, population density and socio-economic environment. There is no parallel “Earth 2” with no lockdown you can use for comparison, you can only make projections with no real way to determine if they’re accurate with 100% certainty.

mrdude · Jun 29, 2022

AmandaRose said:
This is fucking hilarious simply because.

Harry Enfield is well known to be a supporter of the left.

He along with his family have donated huge amounts of money to the British Labour Party

He has done numerous things in support for workers/women/lgbt rights and everything else you can think of the left support.

He made a number of comedy skits showing the lunacy of the right and their misogynistic view's

And now we have the very type of person he hates trying to use some of his skits for their own purpose without them even realising that Harry made the skits to show how ridiculous their right wing views are.

Definitely a case of

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Haha, yes I know - it's funny how you can use the lefts own stuff against them, they are so easy to troll it's unbelievable.

Change the word Labour for Democrats and this sums up the democrat party:

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