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Mid-terms are coming up.
And there aren't enough seats up for election to impeach SCOTUS justices even if the Democrats won them all. To end the filibuster and codify Roe into law? Maybe. I don't have a lot of faith given that even the current Democratic POTUS is "pro-life." Besides, what we're currently witnessing is the corporate world exerting more control over the populace, and that will be an ever-present threat for as long as I'm alive. Or at least as long as I choose to keep living in the US.
 
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There was no "insurrection" - this is just a political phrase programmed into you by your lefty overlords to try and sow division and hate. This kind of thing is straight from the lefty play book.
Gaslighting is from the right wing play book. So yes there was an attempted insurrection, with death threats if they didn't get their own way. But let's pretend there wasn't because right wing are so butt hurt.

Interesting how you think opposing the KKK, proud boys & racist cops is a race war ;-)

Covid and your Russian friends have caused inflation. Again you lot are the cancer in society, but you are so weak you blame everyone else.
 
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And there aren't enough seats up for election to impeach SCOTUS justices even if the Democrats won them all. To end the filibuster and codify Roe into law? Maybe. I don't have a lot of faith given that even the current Democratic POTUS is "pro-life." Besides, what we're currently witnessing is the corporate world exerting more control over the populace, and that will be an ever-present threat for as long as I'm alive. Or at least as long as I choose to keep living in the US.
Why would your first thought be to impeach SCOTUS justices and *not* to legislate accordingly? This is exactly the problem - you think the SCOTUS should be a sword. The SCOTUS is designed as a shield - a shield against the negative predilections of Congress. You’re angry because a decision with consequences you approve of was overturned, I’m happy because a decision that was incorrect was corrected. This is step one in fixing the court as far as I’m concerned, with me being an originalist who reads the Constitution as it is written. I see the SCOTUS returning to its original function as a good thing, the ends don’t justify the means for me. Reproductive rights are important, but they should be tackled by Congress, or failing that, by the state legislatures. If “Congress is in deadlock”, there’s plenty of local governments that can adequately handle the matter, and if they do it in a way that displeases their electorate, the electorate can vote accordingly at the next available opportunity. The system works, but only if you let it do its job. If you keep bending it in ways it wasn’t designed to be used, it can only break.

EDIT: For the record, Congress being “in deadlock” is an ideal situation to someone like me. The split should almost always be even - that way only legislation with broad bipartisan support can pass. It gives both parties a reason to make concessions. Majority rule is dangerous, deadlock is preferable - they shouldn’t push legislation through non stop without opposition - making fewer, but better laws is the way to go. One party having the ability to steamroll anything through Congress is no different than a dictatorship, when you think about it. In order for opposition to be meaningful, it needs to have teeth.
 
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Why would your first thought be to impeach SCOTUS justices and *not* to legislate accordingly?
Because of their conduct. Several lied in their confirmation hearings. One is a guaranteed rapist that the FBI did not investigate properly, if at all. Another has vowed to rule solely to spite liberals rather than based on his oath. And yet another has made statements to indicate her rulings will be based on her cult-like religious faith, a violation of separation of church and state.

This is exactly the problem - you think the SCOTUS should be a sword.
SCOTUS is being used like a sword with this decision, a sword wielded by corporations specifically. To allow for restriction of previously guaranteed rights or freedoms is contrary to the court's purpose for existing. To wield it as a shield for the working class majority against creeping fascism again, Biden would have to pack the court, which is something I'm sure you'd hate.

See, this isn't just about abortion. This ruling declares that the right to privacy is not constitutionally guaranteed. This is contrary to every libertarian ideal and belief, on the right and the left. Who gives a fuck about "originalism," the founding fathers didn't have an impending techno-theocratic oligarchy to worry about that might soon rival China's. The justices of today had to get far more creative (and malicious) with their reading of the constitution to overturn Roe than for the original decision. Thus I don't recognize their ruling as valid.
 
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Gaslighting is from the right wing play book. So yes there was an attempted insurrection, with death threats if they didn't get their own way. But let's pretend there wasn't because right wing are so butt hurt.

Interesting how you think opposing the KKK, proud boys & racist cops is a race war ;-)

Covid and your Russian friends have caused inflation. Again you lot are the cancer in society, but you are so weak you blame everyone else.
It wasn't the KKK or the proud boys that were setting fire to cities, looting, killing people and fighting with the police - it was Antifa and lefties. Go figure.
Don't blame Russia for inflation, when your Democrats printed TRILLIONS of dollars, it devalued your currency. You are far worse off today than you were 2 years ago, the Dems are in charge and their policies have caused the degradiation of your country and made you look weak on the world stage. The Dems are not respected by anyone outside of left in the USA - they are the laughing stock of the world. If any country has learned any lessons in the last 2 years, it's how to ruin a country - just act like the Dems and implement socialist policies.
You will find out in November how unpopular these policies are, and then your country will be stuck for 2 years as the Dems will be stuck in Limbo, opposed on everything - roll on November :-).
 
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Which all of the recent 3 republican leaning justices did say they supported it... to only then go back on their word.

Yeah, and your group is going to experience something called "consent to the governed" You can't just go repealing shit that 60% of people consider as a right. I mean you can, but not without completely de-legitimizing the supreme court. Which is exactly what's happening.
Em... The supreme court isn't supposed to determine rights based on the court of public opinion. In fact they're not supposed to determine rights at all unless they're in the constitution.

And luckily those people can live in a state where the majority can vote to keep it legal, and some can live in a state where the majority vote for some restrictions, and some can live in a state where the majority want it banned.

That's the nice part about federalism junior
 
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What’s your justification for that statement? They all have extensive experience in the legal system.
Experience doesn't mean they're anywhere the level of scholarship required to be on a Supreme Court. As you yourself said. And the judgement itself is kind of flimsy on the legal pov.
 

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It wasn't the KKK or the proud boys that were setting fire to cities, looting, killing people and fighting with the police - it was Antifa and lefties. Go figure.
No, because the KKK and proud boys are happy with black people being murdered by the police.

Why would they fight against it????
 
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No, because the KKK and proud boys are happy with black people being murdered by the police.

Why would they fight against it????
Black people murder black people every day - where's the outrage?

Also if you are on about the criminal George Floyd, the world is a better place without him and I am sure his many victims over the years would agree.

I wouldn't say he was murdered either, personally I think it was more an accidental death than a murder, but the officer had a political trial (witchhunt), and should never have been found guilty of murder.

 
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That has to be the most desperate, myopic, half-baked, mentally inaccessible whataboutism I've ever seen in my life.
Probably not. I see this kind of thing from the left every day. It's amazing the mental gymnastics these people can come up with to justify the crap they spout.
 

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Probably not. I see this kind of thing from the left every day. It's amazing the mental gymnastics these people can come up with to justify the crap they spout.
No, I can assure you it is. I'm not interested in what 'the left' come up with, I'm telling you that what you just said is utterly incomprehensible. You can't go on about about what other people spout when you just said the same kind of thing, you realise that, don't you?
 
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Black people murder black people every day - where's the outrage?
Nice false equivalency.

Black people aren't protected from prosecution when they kill black people, unlike police.

The justice system is there to deal with the punishment. The outrage is when the police aren't punished.
 

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No, I can assure you it is. I'm not interested in what 'the left' come up with, I'm telling you that what you just said is utterly incomprehensible. You can't go on about about what other people spout when you just said the same kind of thing, you realise that, don't you?
I realise that the left are hypocrites. The Dems were the ones that wanted to keep slavery in the past. In the USA there's loads of people trafficking and modern day slavery and they are the ones that are complicit in this with their open borders. The worst crime is where black people live - yet they are the ones calling to defund the police. I could go on and on. If you think the Dems give a hoot about black people you are mistaken, all they care about is votes and staying in power so they can syphon your tax dollars away into their own accounts.
The left don't care about people, if they did they would stop all the drugs killing your youth, they would clamp down on modern day slavery and instead of going soft on crime and putting these scummy criminals in prison they would increase the amount of police, and sentences.

Here's another 50 humans that are dead today because of the Biden government policies:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61961871
 
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You logic is silly and when you're only arguement because you don't like the way someone voted or thinks is to call them names and insult...

Sound observation coming from someone who has consistently called people in this thread "baby killers", "narcissistic", and "immature".

The right would be more amicable if they weren't so hypocritical. They complain about bodily autonomy only when it suits their needs (masks, vaccines). They complain about riots and protests and then whine at their own insurrection. They complain when gun laws are too restricting but then have no problem voting to dehumanize women. They promotor Christian values in a country that's supposed to operate under separation of church and state but then pull the 1st Amendment card every time they get called it. It's incredulous.

Show me one Republican that minds their own business.

I realise that the left are hypocrites. The Dems were the ones that wanted to keep slavery in the past. In the USA there's loads of people trafficking and modern day slavery and they are the ones that are complicit in this with their open borders. The worst crime is where black people live - yet they are the ones calling to defund the police. I could go on and on. If you think the Dems give a hoot about black people you are mistaken, all they care about is votes and staying in power so they can syphon your tax dollars away into their own accounts.
The left don't care about people, if they did they would stop all the drugs killing your youth, they would clamp down on modern day slavery and instead of going soft on crime and putting these scummy criminals in prison they would increase the amount of police, and sentences.

The Democratic party of that time evolved into the Republican party of today. You wouldn't know that since you deny both history and science.

The Dems are complicit with open borders, but then Trump did nothing to build that wall he whined about for years.

The police are ticket takers, nothing more. Maybe if we took all the money they put toward tools they don't need to do their job, we could put it back into the community to help cut down on all this "black on black" crime that apparently runs rampant.

"They would stop all the drugs..."?

What. So Trump can't build a wall or run a good economy during COVID and gets a pass, but the Democrats are expected to completely shut down all drugs without the expectation of enacting martial law or overstepping the boundaries of privately owned corporations (the ones feeding the drugs)? Do you even live in America?

"Going soft on crime..."

I wonder what Hilary's been up to.

A lot of whataboutism, yes, but it's for the sake of pointing out hypocrisy.

Here's another 50 humans that are dead today because of the Biden government policies:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61961871

What policies caused them to die?
 
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I realise that the left are hypocrites. The Dems were the ones that wanted to keep slavery in the past. In the USA there's loads of people trafficking and modern day slavery and they are the ones that are complicit in this with their open borders. The worst crime is where black people live - yet they are the ones calling to defund the police. I could go on and on. If you think the Dems give a hoot about black people you are mistaken, all they care about is votes and staying in power so they can syphon your tax dollars away into their own accounts.
The left don't care about people, if they did they would stop all the drugs killing your youth, they would clamp down on modern day slavery and instead of going soft on crime and putting these scummy criminals in prison they would increase the amount of police, and sentences.

Here's another 50 humans that are dead today because of the Biden government policies:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61961871
That's great but I literally just pulled you up on a foolish whataboutism. Maybe I should stop wasting both our time. Jesus.
 
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Sound observation coming from someone who has consistently called people in this thread "baby killers", "narcissistic", and "immature".

The right would be more amicable if they weren't so hypocritical. They complain about bodily autonomy only when it suits their needs (masks, vaccines). They complain about riots and protests and then whine at their own insurrection. They complain when gun laws are too restricting but then have no problem voting to dehumanize women. They promotor Christian values in a country that's supposed to operate under separation of church and state but then pull the 1st Amendment card every time they get called it. It's incredulous.

Show me one Republican that minds their own business.
Baby Killers - people that kill babies (Abortion is killing babies)
Narcissistic - these people think thier lives are more important and have no empathy for others (baby killers for example).
Immature - Not fully mentally developed (many of the people that have abortions).

I don't think you know what hypocrite means as many of the people that call out these things mentioned above would not do them themselves and are mature enough to deal with the consequences for their own actions.

I do have to laugh when I see these people that were trying to force others to get vaccinated, then start whining when someone is telling them what to do with their bodies - this is very hypicritcal of them, but many of them don't realise that.

Not only Chirstians disagree with abortion, many people from other religions do as well and so do many non religious people - so trying to put the blame on Christian values is pretty pathetic. You'd be better blaming people with moral values trying to impose morality on the immoral.
 
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I take it you don't watch the news very much, what about Bidens open border policies. Kamala was meant to sort the border out - has she even been to the southern border yet?

If you can't show me on the doll where the policies hurt you, at what point did the policies do any damage?

Baby Killers - people that kill babies (Abortion is killing babies)
Narcissistic - these people think thier lives are more important and have no empathy for others (baby killers for example).
Immature - Not fully mentally developed (many of the people that have abortions).

I'm glad you've grasped what definitions are, but that doesn't make your platform less hypocritical. You whine about other users calling people names just to turn around and call them names yourself. That's hypocrisy.

I don't think you know what hypocrite means as many of the people that call out these things mentioned above would not do them themselves and are mature enough to deal with the consequences for their own actions.

There's a long history of Republican politicians practicing open hypocrisy. We'll have to open another thread for that.

I do have to laugh when I see these people that were trying to force others to get vaccinated, then start whining when someone is telling them what to do with their bodies - this is very hypicritcal of them, but many of them don't realise that.

I didn't advocate for pushing the vaccine either, but at that point it's public health and affects everyone, as opposed to abortion which only affects a couple people.

Not only Chirstians disagree with abortion, many people from other religions do as well and so do many non religious people - so trying to put the blame on Christian values is pretty pathetic. You'd be better blaming people with moral values trying to impose morality on the immoral.

Judaism's pretty ok with it, and I believe the Muslim faith okays it as well (but for different reasons). What other religions are completely against it?
 

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Baby Killers - people that kill babies (Abortion is killing babies)
Ok, we'll give you that if you accept that you are a nazi racist insurrectionist who wants baby Trump back in power so the police can continue to kill black people with impunity.

Deal? Otherwise abortion does not kill babies by definition of the word baby.
 
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