Homebrew app USB Loader GX shows black screen when I select a game

BeginnerBrewer · Jun 26, 2022

Hey, this is my first time homebrewing a Wii, (aside from the Wii U, but I bricked the vWii on there...)
And every time I select a game on USB Loader GX, it cuts to a black screen and my Wiimote turns off and I can't turn it back on, requiring me to turn the Wii off via the power button
This has happened for most of the games I've tried. (RRR2, NSMBW, MKW, etc.)
I'm using a USB Flash Drive to store the games as well, (I'm mentioning this because I've seen other people mention they recommend using an external hard drive instead of a flash drive, but I've also been told to use a flash drive because it loads the games faster, I need to see which side is right), with a storage size of 128 GB and 76 GB taken up due to the games on there.
Is there anything I need to do to get rid of the black screen?

jeannotte · Jun 26, 2022

BeginnerBrewer said:
Is there anything I need to do to get rid of the black screen?

Hello,

get yourself a FAT32 external hard drive. :rofl2:

Post a syscheck report here , please , thanks .

syscheck==>SYSCHECK

BeginnerBrewer said:
(I'm mentioning this because I've seen other people mention they recommend using an external hard drive instead of a flash drive,

strongly recommend

BeginnerBrewer · Jun 26, 2022

I knew it would have been an external hard drive omg... thank you so much for confirming it!
as for the syscheck, here it is:
SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 02.13.2007
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 52486238
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: United States (49)
Boot2 v4
Found 94 titles.
Found 56 IOS on this console. 5 of them are stubs.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Flash Access, NAND Access
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS31 (rev 3608): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS80 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS90 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS223[38+37] (rev 4, Info: hermes-v4): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermesrodries-v6): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS236 (rev 54321): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access, Beer Ticket
IOS245[37] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS246[38] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS247[53] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS248[55] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS249[56] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS252[56] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta53-alt): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 06/26/2022.

godreborn · Jun 26, 2022

your syscheck looks fine albeit a bit sloppy like you've owned it for quite some time. there are old hacks on there, but it doesn't really matter. mine is that way as well.

jeannotte · Jun 26, 2022

your syscheck report is correct.

for CIOS, you have version 8 Final, you can try version 10 beta 52 of d2x cios with this guide ==>https://wii.guide/cios.html

little info:

know that you can always come back to version 8 final, if version 10 beta 52 does not please you or does not work.

EDIT:

with your usb key ==> try to format it in WBFS and see the result?

You can try other loaders (wiiflow lite or Configurable loader v70), I have the three loaders on my SD card (it's up to you)

godreborn · Jun 26, 2022

jeannotte said:
your syscheck report is correct.

for CIOS, you have version 8 Final, you can try version 10 beta 52 of d2x cios with this guide ==>https://wii.guide/cios.html

little info:

know that you can always come back to version 8 final, if version 10 beta 52 does not please you or does not work.

afaik, version 8 or 10 is irrelevant with the original wii.

I think the problem is that flash drive.

jeannotte · Jun 26, 2022

godreborn said:
I think the problem is that flash drive.

i strongly think so

I have often seen on the forum that by formatting USB keys in WBFS format ==> they work (sometimes, but not always)

Meme @XFlak recommends WBFS format for USB keys or try FAT 32 .

CoolMe · Jun 26, 2022

BeginnerBrewer said:
every time I select a game on USB Loader GX, it cuts to a black screen

Use this modded version of usbloadergx by @blackb0x and try again.
Does the usb flash drive pass the usb initiation screen (without showing the countdown)?
Do you have only 1 partition on the usb drive?
Is it plugged in port 0?

BeginnerBrewer said:
I'm using a USB Flash Drive to store the games as well

Do your games show up in WiiBackupmanager?
Did you transfer these games first with WiiBackupmanager?

BeginnerBrewer said:
I've seen other people mention they recommend using an external hard drive instead of a flash drive, but I've also been told to use a flash drive because it loads the games faster

External HDDs are the go-to choice, no comparison. Though some might not be compatible.. Just get a y-cable with it you're going to get one.

BeginnerBrewer · Jun 26, 2022

CoolMe said:
Does the usb flash drive pass the usb initiation screen (without showing the countdown)?

My apologies if I get this wrong, I'm not familiar with most of these questions or "lingo" so I may say this wrong.
First off, I'm pretty sure the flash drive passes the initiation screen. (If you mean it's able to be read by USB Loader GX and doesn't say "USB device cannot be initialized")

CoolMe said:
Do you have only 1 partition on the usb drive?

Is it plugged in port 0?

Not sure what a partition is for a USB drive, and my flash drive is plugged into the bottom USB port, (the one closest to the edge)

CoolMe said:
Do your games show up in WiiBackupmanager?
Did you transfer these games first with WiiBackupmanager?

My games do show up in WiiBackupManager, and I used WiiBackupManager to get the wbfs files onto my flash drive.

CoolMe said:
External HDDs are the go-to choice, no comparison. Though some might not be compatible.. Just get a y-cable with it you're going to get one.

Got it! Also, I've seen people in this thread mention that I need a "y-cable" for the hard drive, what is that?

CoolMe · Jun 26, 2022

BeginnerBrewer said:
My apologies if I get this wrong, I'm not familiar with most of these questions or "lingo" so I may say this wrong.
First off, I'm pretty sure the flash drive passes the initiation screen. (If you mean it's able to be read by USB Loader GX and doesn't say "USB device cannot be initialized")

Ok, then it does recognize the drive.

BeginnerBrewer said:
Not sure what a partition is for a USB drive, and my flash drive is plugged into the bottom USB port, (the one closest to the edge)

Ok. Then don't worry about it.

BeginnerBrewer said:
My games do show up in WiiBackupManager, and I used WiiBackupManager to get the wbfs files onto my flash drive.

Good.

BeginnerBrewer said:
Got it! Also, I've seen people in this thread mention that I need a "y-cable" for the hard drive, what is that?

It looks like this :>

Though the other end could be different, say if your external hdd only has usb 3.0 or mini etc.

Have you tried with the modded version of usbloadergx that i linked to above?
Also what video cables & tv are you using?
Are the games same region as the console?

BeginnerBrewer · Jun 26, 2022

CoolMe said:
Have you tried with the modded version of usbloadergx that i linked to above?

Just tried it now, but I still have the same problem sadly.

CoolMe said:
Also what video cables & tv are you using?

I'm using the video cables provided in the Wii box, along with an old "Sharp" HDMI tv (I don't have Wii2HDMI, there are video cable ports on the back of the tv as well so I prefer to use those instead.)

CoolMe said:
Are the games same region as the console?

Yes, they are. (NTSC)

CoolMe · Jun 26, 2022

BeginnerBrewer said:
Just tried it now, but I still have the same problem sadly.

I'm using the video cables provided in the Wii box, along with an old "Sharp" HDMI tv (I don't have Wii2HDMI, there are video cable ports on the back of the tv as well so I prefer to use those instead.)

Yes, they are. (NTSC)

Ok, then it's just the usb flash drive. You can try formatting it as wbfs in WiiBackupmanager, it might make it work, but it doesn't mean it's guaranteed it'll work in your case.

BeginnerBrewer · Jun 26, 2022

CoolMe said:
Ok, then it's just the usb flash drive. You can try formatting it as wbfs in WiiBackupmanager, it might make it work, but it doesn't mean it's guaranteed it'll work in your case.

how do I format it as wbfs?
(just asking so I know what to do before getting an External HDD.)

CoolMe · Jun 26, 2022

BeginnerBrewer said:
how do I format it as wbfs?

Just look around in one the tabs/settings, it shouldn't be that difficult to spot. Obviously you need to copy/paste your data before formatting it..

BeginnerBrewer · Jun 26, 2022

CoolMe said:
Just look around in one the tabs/settings, it shouldn't be that difficult to spot. Obviously you need to copy/paste your data before formatting it..

if the external hard drive's size is 1TB, what should the sector size be?

BeginnerBrewer · Jun 27, 2022

I just used the default sector size for the external hard drive when converting it to WBFS and everything seemed to work great! Thanks to everyone in this thread for helping!!

CoolMe · Jun 27, 2022

BeginnerBrewer said:
if the external hard drive's size is 1TB, what should the sector size be?

Fat32 32kb cluster size. I told you to format the usb flash drive as wbfs to up the compatibility, not the external hdd.

BeginnerBrewer said:
I just used the default sector size for the external hard drive when converting it to WBFS and everything seemed to work great! Thanks to everyone in this thread for helping!!

No, just get it back to FAT32 32 kb cluster size (for the hdd). You couldn't play GC games without it, or creating a separate fat32 partition for it..

BeginnerBrewer · Jul 4, 2022

CoolMe said:
No, just get it back to FAT32 32 kb cluster size (for the hdd). You couldn't play GC games without it, or creating a separate fat32 partition for it..

ohhh okay then, got it.

BeginnerBrewer · Jul 4, 2022

CoolMe said:
Fat32 32kb cluster size. I told you to format the usb flash drive as wbfs to up the compatibility, not the external hdd.

wait, what is that? how do i get there?
I'm only getting these options when I format them via the wii backup manager:

(edit: ohhhhh okay I get what you're saying now.)

CoolMe · Jul 4, 2022

BeginnerBrewer said:
wait, what is that? how do i get there?
I'm only getting these options when I format them via the wii backup manager:
View attachment 316495
(edit: ohhhhh okay I get what you're saying now.)

Format your hdd as Fat32 32kb cluster size with Guiformat, not WiiBackupmanager.

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