Hacking Time gates in Fates are acting weird

LordTwibill · Jun 12, 2022

Okay, so I have a weird issue where after a certain time after winning a battle, Fates just… stops updating the day/night cycle and remains stuck on that time of day, even when the day itself has changed.

I’ve edited the RTC a lot and have even set it backwards, but nothing I do seems to stick and I don’t know what the problem might be. How do I fix it?

lone_wolf323 · Jun 12, 2022

BoydTheReaver said:
Okay, so I have a weird issue where after a certain time after winning a battle, Fates just… stops updating the day/night cycle and remains stuck on that time of day, even when the day itself has changed.

I’ve edited the RTC a lot and have even set it backwards, but nothing I do seems to stick and I don’t know what the problem might be. How do I fix it?

Well. is this perhaps a anticheat function that nintendo put in place to freeze all RTC features if the clocks get changed at all?

LordTwibill · Jun 12, 2022

lone_wolf323 said:
Well. is this perhaps a anticheat function that nintendo put in place to freeze all RTC features if the clocks get changed at all?

Wait. That’s a thing?

wormdood · Jun 12, 2022

BoydTheReaver said:
Wait. That’s a thing?

Actually it's just speculation over your situation but it's totally a possibility

LordTwibill · Jun 14, 2022

wormdood said:
Actually it's just speculation over your situation but it's totally a possibility

Thanks. I've opened up my 3DS, and it remained stuck at Evening time for my saves. It's bizarre, because it cycled through time earlier. I think this started a month ago when I ended up messing with the RTC beforehand.

Is it possible that the battery has something to do with this?

LordTwibill · Jun 19, 2022

I'm going to let my battery die out so I can see what I can do to rework it.

LordTwibill · Jun 24, 2022

I let my battery die. Even now, exactly four cycles after it started, the time gates locked up. WTF is happening?

I admit that I went back in time with my RTC, but even then this shouldn't be happening.

GUEDES_et_al · Jun 24, 2022

Some games like Yo-kai ones punish the user when RTC change is detected. After you load your save data, It pops up that you have to wait for X days to use the functions based in time again (in this case crank-a-kai).

Maybe things works properly again after you wait some days.

LordTwibill · Jun 24, 2022

JoAoMGuedes said:
Some games like Yo-kai ones punish the user when RTC change is detected. After you load your save data, It pops up that you have to wait for X days to use the functions based in time again (in this case crank-a-kai).

Maybe things works properly again after you wait some days.

Oh, the weird thing is, it progresses for 24 hours and then just stops. I also got zero notification for that; I can access online just fine, so I'm kind of at a loss.

Does Fates punish RTC clocks? Can somebody confirm?

LordTwibill · Jun 24, 2022

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/3ds/9...o-3dss-connect-to-each-other-using-streetpass

I found this.

How do I fix this?

GUEDES_et_al · Jun 26, 2022

I would like to help you, but I really don't know how.

If I were you, I would try to dump all your saves using Checkpoint (just in case), and restore a NAND backup before the RTC changes (wich caused the bug), probably should work. Another try: a Tiny format. But, zero guarantee for both methods.

LordTwibill · Jun 26, 2022

JoAoMGuedes said:
I would like to help you, but I really don't know how.

If I were you, I would try to dump all your saves using Checkpoint (just in case), and restore a NAND backup before the RTC changes (wich caused the bug), probably should work. Another try: a Tiny format. But, zero guarantee for both methods.

How do I use 3DS SysNAND and TinyFormat?

GUEDES_et_al · Jun 27, 2022

There's no secret, you only have to download the homebrew and runs it.

I don't remember although if you have to reinstall tickets or rename the 3ds folder to your games appear again on Home Menu.

The Real Jdbye · Jun 27, 2022

BoydTheReaver said:
Wait. That’s a thing?

It has been a thing historically. If you change the date back in the Pokemon GBA games clock events will not occur until the date has passed the original date it was set to before you changed it. I'm pretty sure Animal Crossing does something similar.
The Switch has a "real time" that you can't change, when you change the clock it's pretty simple for a game to detect this by comparing this "real time" to the clock time you've set.
Can't tell you for sure if that's what's happening here.

LordTwibill · Jul 1, 2022

So I ended up doing the game manually and doing all the time events, and when I close the game and let it run for a while, it suddenly advances again. Which is really weird, but I can live with it.

The Real Jdbye said:
It has been a thing historically. If you change the date back in the Pokemon GBA games clock events will not occur until the date has passed the original date it was set to before you changed it. I'm pretty sure Animal Crossing does something similar.
The Switch has a "real time" that you can't change, when you change the clock it's pretty simple for a game to detect this by comparing this "real time" to the clock time you've set.
Can't tell you for sure if that's what's happening here.

So let's just say that the Raw RTC was at 2024 while the RTC clock was at 2022 when it first began happening. If I went back in time to make the Raw RTC 2022, would that mean that the clock would have to wait until 2024 for it to resync?

The Real Jdbye · Jul 1, 2022

BoydTheReaver said:
So I ended up doing the game manually and doing all the time events, and when I close the game and let it run for a while, it suddenly advances again. Which is really weird, but I can live with it.

So let's just say that the Raw RTC was at 2024 while the RTC clock was at 2022 when it first began happening. If I went back in time to make the Raw RTC 2022, would that mean that the clock would have to wait until 2024 for it to resync?

Depends how the game implemented it, maybe.

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