Does hwfly chip overpriced?

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How come a clone is twice the price of its origin? Does the part actually that expensive or they just blow up the price because last year shortage?
 

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It has to do with supply and demand as stated above, with Team Xecuter not around, people can dictate the price they want to sell it at, it ain't that bad price right now as it used to be like $170, $180.

Obviously the cheapest would be trinket m0 for unpatched unit.
 

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Because when you're the only person that can make the OLED Switch play pirated games of course you're gonna charge a premium for it. I mean some people aren't willing to settle for the unpatched model where they can hack it for free. Gotta have the less than an inch bigger screen and nicer colors! At that point their only option is spend an arm and a leg for a chip (and probably a professional install) or BUY all their games like a pleb.

Nobody has the ability (or guts at least) to make/develop a new chip, and that's all that matters to the nameless Chinese factory building these HWFLY chips.

I mean it's not like they're running a charity. Pay up or go with out, that's the way of capitalism.
 

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Because when you're the only person that can make the OLED Switch play pirated games of course you're gonna charge a premium for it. I mean some people aren't willing to settle for the unpatched model where they can hack it for free. Gotta have the less than an inch bigger screen and nicer colors! At that point their only option is spend an arm and a leg for a chip (and probably a professional install) or BUY all their games like a pleb.

Nobody has the ability (or guts at least) to make/develop a new chip, and that's all that matters to the nameless Chinese factory building these HWFLY chips.

I mean it's not like they're running a charity. Pay up or go with out, that's the way of capitalism.

Exactly, saw someone charging $1200 dollars for a pre modded OLED on ebay 😂

https://www.ebay.com/itm/195072178323?_trkparms=amclksrc=ITM&aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160908105057&meid=348634ab066b4bf286fdf2b054c880f5&pid=100675&rk=3&rkt=15&sd=353953320348&itm=195072178323&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2380057&brand=Nintendo&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:61cbc6f9-dde0-11ec-a2a1-3a1fc7900b5c|parentrq:06829e2c1810ab8fbea625d2fffd2466|iid:14
 

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Piracy bad homebrew good :-D

It is simple economics. When you have a monopoly on an in-demand product you can control the price. Up to a point people will buy it.

I believe PCB schematics and the BOM are public. What is missing is the FPGA 'bitstream' or source code in order to glitch the boot process. Without that you are just left to look at pretty pictures on how to assemble the mod-chip.
 

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The sad part is Team Xecuter did all the R&D on this chip, and it's HWFLY that reaps all the profit. I guess it's karma for stealing Atmosphere's code for SXOS.
 
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The sad part is Team Xecuter did all the R&D on this chip, and it's HWFLY that reaps all the profit. I guess it's karma for stealing Atmosphere's code for SXOS.
I mean...I'm sure it was mostly selling piracy, since they very much were advertising the SX chips as piracy devices, and were apparently trying to offer access to pirated games via come cloud drive or Tinfoil shop or whatever...

Dont think Ninty really cares about what one modding group does to another (since they hate all modding just the same)...but yeah plagiarizing some of Atmosphere's code is a dick move too.
 
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The sad part is Team Xecuter did all the R&D on this chip, and it's HWFLY that reaps all the profit. I guess it's karma for stealing Atmosphere's code for SXOS.
Sad? First off. The latest incarnation of TX were potentially involved with for-profit piracy. Sure. Hate on Nintendo all you want, and I think certain laws are conflicted about this but there is a clear difference from producing devices for enabling of homebrew that do not include copyrighted content to marketing a device as 'COME GET UR PIRACY HERE' and selling copyrighted ROM images on top of that.

Second of all there have been similar hardware-glitching attacks against the Tegra SoC that predate the TX mod-chip documented publicly. So there is a good chance TX simply knew about this and have somebody recreate it in a laboratory than miniaturise it for the mod-chip form-factor. Still interesting but if theory is correct it is not exactly groundbreaking either.
 
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The sad part is Team Xecuter did all the R&D on this chip, and it's HWFLY that reaps all the profit. I guess it's karma for stealing Atmosphere's code for SXOS.
IMO TX Got greedy and attempted to profiteer off the SX chips with subscription services and the like. This is likely what gained the unwanted attention from Nintendo.
 

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IMO TX Got greedy and attempted to profiteer off the SX chips with subscription services and the like. This is likely what gained the unwanted attention from Nintendo.

There was a subscription service ( I wasn't aware about it, I thought it just came with a free sx os license ). I was there when sx core was $50 all the way to the current pricing.

The price hike is initially due to factory shutdown then it became greed when hwfly took over. Imo, it is not that expensive if you live in North America or decent Europe country as it opens up all the switch to modding/games.

The v1 unpatch battery is dying way too quick compare with v2 and OLED. I have 2 unpatch, 2 v2 and 2 OLED ( all modded ). I leave my v1 sleeping and it loses 80% battery in 12 hour with a brand new battery.
 

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The v1 unpatch battery is dying way too quick compare with v2 and OLED
This is literally the only valid reason in my mind to not get an unpatched switch if you are interested in homebrew or heaven forbid sailing the seas. 😲

But even then it just depends on how you're gonna use it. If you're gonna be in docked mode most of the time, there is no reason to get an OLED, and a V2 is more hassle than it's worth because you have to chip it. All that rigmarole for extra battery life that you might not even make use of most of the time is just kinda dumb.

But really even if you're gonna use it in handheld mode a lot, a nice battery bank completely negates the unpatched model's trash battery life. Hell there are even grips with batteries built in to charge off. And if you have reasonably sized hands...you probably want a grip anyway since the switch aint super ergonomic on it's own.
 

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There was a subscription service ( I wasn't aware about it, I thought it just came with a free sx os license ). I was there when sx core was $50 all the way to the current pricing.

The price hike is initially due to factory shutdown then it became greed when hwfly took over. Imo, it is not that expensive if you live in North America or decent Europe country as it opens up all the switch to modding/games.

The v1 unpatch battery is dying way too quick compare with v2 and OLED. I have 2 unpatch, 2 v2 and 2 OLED ( all modded ). I leave my v1 sleeping and it loses 80% battery in 12 hour with a brand new battery.
It was called StargateNX and it was obviously super illegal, they should've known it was a bad idea.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/stargatenx-review.530932/

The subscription wasn't for SX OS, it was for pirated ROMs.

People think they're immune to being prosecuted for copyright infringement because they're in China or they think they're anonymous, but when there's enough money on the table (and especially when a company or a person is directly profiting off of copyright infringement/piracy) rights holders will stop at nothing to catch the culprits and shut them down. It was only a matter of time until someone slipped up and got caught.
 
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It was called StargateNX and it was obviously super illegal, they should've known it was a bad idea.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/stargatenx-review.530932/
*Reads some of the thread*

TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS A MONTH?
For what? A reskinned copy of Tinfoil with a shop hardcoded into it?

Bloody hell and people on reddit are losing their shit over the one shop that you donate an eshop code one time to get into...I'd love to see what they think of this.
 

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*Reads some of the thread*

TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS A MONTH?
For what? A reskinned copy of Tinfoil with a shop hardcoded into it?

Bloody hell and people on reddit are losing their shit over the one shop that you donate an eshop code one time to get into...I'd love to see what they think of this.
That was pretty much everyone's reaction on here when it was first announced. But I'm sure some people still bought into it.
 

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