Nintendo Switch Online NES and SNES for May 2022 revealed

Marc_LFD · May 27, 2022

The moment Nintendo Switch's online service went paid, I got out of it and did rightfully so. Paying for a subpar service with 8bit and 16bit games? No thanks.

I'm guessing Nintendo will eventually have a Tier 3 of NSO with Switch games, but of course, it'll cost even more than Tier 2 ($60, I think?).

Poor management.

Marc_LFD · May 27, 2022

Bladexdsl said:
like what a fucking disgrace even PSN is better now with it's PAL 25 FPS games

Yeah, that shit too is unacceptable.

The PAL format should have never existed, it either sped up (movies/shows) or slowed down (games). Thankfully, by the DC/PS2 era games in PAL regions offered 60hz so they could actually play games as they were supposed to be.

Sonic 1 Genesis PAL version was something trippy.

Harsky · May 27, 2022

The current owners of the Jaleco brand is sitting on quite a lot of NES/SNES games so we might see more of this stupid drip feed for a long, LONG time.

Bobsy · May 27, 2022

Marc_78065 said:
Yeah, that shit too is unacceptable.

The PAL format should have never existed, it either sped up (movies/shows) or slowed down (games). Thankfully, by the DC/PS2 era games in PAL regions offered 60hz so they could actually play games as they were supposed to be.

Sonic 1 Genesis PAL version was something trippy.

Crazy.
When you only had PAL, like me, there was no way of knowing, though, and we enjoyed the games. And PAL Sonic was still faster than PAL Mario.

Deleted member 194275 · May 27, 2022

Used prices:

Congo's Caper - $27
Rival Turf! - $15
Pinball - $6
Umihara Kawase - $90

So it is 138 USD on value, how amazing isn't it?

That is the Microsoft logic of value, that contaminated Nintendo, Sony and many gamers. This kind of service worth nothing, they just took online play as hostage and are demanding money for it. You do not keep those games, you do not own those games and most important of all, you never chosen those games.

I wonder how much worth a 12tb hyperspin HDD loaded of games that people sell on aliexpress for those look-the-value guys. Millions? Billions? Zillions? Anyway, people pay $72,000 on a monkey profile picture nowadays, so, whatever.

Foxi4 · May 27, 2022

lokomelo said:
Used prices:

Congo's Caper - $27
Rival Turf! - $15
Pinball - $6
Umihara Kawase - $90

So it is 138 USD on value, how amazing isn't it?

That is the Microsoft logic of value, that contaminated Nintendo, Sony and many gamers. This kind of service worth nothing, they just took online play as hostage and are demanding money for it. You do not keep those games, you do not own those games and most important of all, you never chosen those games.

I wonder how much worth a 12tb hyperspin HDD loaded of games that people sell on aliexpress for those look-the-value guys. Millions? Billions? Zillions? Anyway, people pay $72,000 on a monkey profile picture nowadays, so, whatever.

In all fairness, Nintendo’s die hard fans have always been the biggest suckers in the industry. Let’s not forget that we’re talking about the company that propagated slicing a game in half to sell two different versions of the exact same thing, and give people a reason to buy an overpriced link cable. To this day nostalgia fiends are perfectly happy paying over the odds for Pokémon cards that are particularly well-cut, or old games that are still sealed, with no intention of using either for their intended purpose since it’d “lower their value”. If there’s an audience you can sell 30+ year old ROM’s to (and I mean that literally - didn’t Nintendo get caught using scene releases?), it’s them. I personally don’t mind - I only ever pay for the basic tier, and only when I need it. I can’t imagine paying a recurring subscription for this, the value just isn’t there.

Marc_78065 said:
Yeah, that shit too is unacceptable.

The PAL format should have never existed, it either sped up (movies/shows) or slowed down (games). Thankfully, by the DC/PS2 era games in PAL regions offered 60hz so they could actually play games as they were supposed to be.

Sonic 1 Genesis PAL version was something trippy.

Well, that’s a yes and a no, really. PAL uses a lower refresh rate, 50Hz vs 60Hz, but it does display more lines, 625 vs 525. Losses in framerate did translate to higher picture quality. This doesn’t necessarily translate to gaming, it depends on the game, but overall real PAL displays are crisper compared to NTSC equivalents. As someone who grew up on the PAL standard NTSC versions seem off to me, although with the advent of HD displays the resolution advantage became somewhat moot.

Nincompoopdo · May 27, 2022

TomSwitch said:
Actually some do love Nintendo originals. It's never the same without the Nintendo stamp. This group may be small but they could be rich. People who grew up with Nintendo toys probably have a higher income level than those that didn't.

That's the strategy of Nintendo isn't it? Nostalgia?

People always think that the games they played when they were young are better- until they play them again now. Most of the NES/SNES games didn't aged well and are not as fun as you remembered them. If there's a time machine and you sent people back in time, the good old days won't be as good as you remembered - nostalgia is an illusion of the past.

In the recent book by Reggie, he said that Nintendo refused to bundle Wii Sports for free with the Wii console back in 2006. He has to push them and fight them before they reluctantly accepted his marketing strategy - which turned Wii into a great success in the US - because of those Wii Sports games.

Miyamoto told Reggie, "Nintendo don't give out free software." That pretty much sums up the motto of Nintendo.

You will never see Nintendo give out their current AAA games for free to their subscribers. They don't follow Sony or Microsoft, they are an 100+ years old ancient company that follows old ways of doing business.

Wavy · May 27, 2022

At this rate they're gonna give us Hong Kong 97.

lordelan · May 27, 2022

If this is worth a front page entry on gbatemp, then the fact that the whole Bioshock collection is free on Epic currently is too.

@Chary

MochaMilk · May 27, 2022

I'm so fed up with this service. I've been waiting for them to add iCarly for the DS to the expansion pass for ages now. They chose Mario Bros. over iCarly!? THIS IS BULLCRAP!

Flame · May 27, 2022

more like "Nintendo Ditch Online".... its full of dead crap.

tech3475 · May 27, 2022

Marc_78065 said:
The PAL format should have never existed, it either sped up (movies/shows) or slowed down (games). Thankfully, by the DC/PS2 era games in PAL regions offered 60hz so they could actually play games as they were supposed to be.

IIRC/from what I've heard, the origin of 50Hz/60Hz was because of mains power being used for the refresh rate.

Considering the PAL standard dates back to the early 60s, it likely wasn't considered as much of an issue back then.

TBH I only found out about the speed difference when I played Sonic Mega Collection on 60Hz and realised the music was faster.

Nincompoopdo said:
That's the strategy of Nintendo isn't it? Nostalgia?

People always think that the games they played when they were young are better- until they play them again now. Most of the NES/SNES games didn't aged well and are not as fun as you remembered them. If there's a time machine and you sent people back in time, the good old days won't be as good as you remembered - nostalgia is an illusion of the past.

In the recent book by Reggie, he said that Nintendo refused to bundle Wii Sports for free with the Wii console back in 2006. He has to push them and fight them before they reluctantly accepted his marketing strategy - which turned Wii into a great success in the US - because of those Wii Sports games.

Miyamoto told Reggie, "Nintendo don't give out free software." That pretty much sums up the motto of Nintendo.

You will never see Nintendo give out their current AAA games for free to their subscribers. They don't follow Sony or Microsoft, they are an 100+ years old ancient company that follows old ways of doing business.

That makes no sense, Nintendo has bundled software in the past e.g. SNES and Super Mario World.

DJPlace · May 27, 2022

nothing N64? what a shocker.

sombrerosonic · May 27, 2022

Dont mind me, im just enjoying NES & SNES emulation on my psp

But for real. Who plays pinball on NES? I never even heard of that ever. nintendo really putting out the big shit now

Something whatever · May 27, 2022

zzzzzzzzzz.

UltraDolphinRevolution · May 27, 2022

sombrerosonic said:
But for real. Who plays pinball on NES? I never even heard of that ever. nintendo really putting out the big shit now

Those who play everything Mario-related. Why do you think he appeared in an SSX and NBA Streets game (and his costumes in a freaking Tekken game)?

That said, the game could be fun. I might play on an emulator one day. Even NES Golf is actually not that bad.

Marc_LFD · May 27, 2022

sombrerosonic said:
Dont mind me, im just enjoying NES & SNES emulation on my psp

But for real. Who plays pinball on NES? I never even heard of that ever. nintendo really putting out the big shit now

I've been playing Mario 64 on a 50" thru my PS4 and loving it. Don't really like gaming on small screens, but the 3DS and Vita are an exception. Switch, too.

shadow1w2 · May 27, 2022

Sure seems like Ninty is trolling us at this point.

I do like the NES pinball though.
The arcade version is up for eight dollars though it's not all that different.

Seems like they dont focus on multiplayer games as much as they could.

Really wish they'd just include the Japanese games as an option.
Rather than forcing us to use a Japan account and clogging up the news feed.
Anyone do that still?
Is it easier to clean that up these days?
I dont like to sacrifice ot just to play those games.

If they dropped obscure titles like this often it would be great but the slow trickle just seems like a middle finger to anyone who knows better.
Nintendo could do better but they just don't want to.

Meanwhile Daggerfall is free on Steam (Deck) so I mean greener pastures out there.

Edit: fixed up to be less gibberish

Marc_LFD · May 27, 2022

shadow1w2 said:
Sure seems like Ninty is trolling us at this point.

Really wish they'd just include the Japanese games as an option.
Rather than forcing us to use a Japan account and clogging up the news feed.
Anyone do that still?
Is it easier to clean that up these days?
I dont like to sacrifice ot just to play those games.

Meanwhile free on Steam Deck. (least I think its verified, it just run on dosbox)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1812390/The_Elder_Scrolls_II_Daggerfall/

Free to play than just free (to claim).

shadow1w2 · May 27, 2022

Marc_78065 said:
Free to play than just free (to claim).

Yeah perhaps it's not the best comparison or fair to compare the two.
It just seems like it's nicer and it came out recently too.

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