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Isn't it time we started thinking of evacuating people who want to live in a normal country? It's the same fucking carousel of arguments every time a mass shooting happens.
Well... A shooting that still manages to shock the world (I'm lead to believe that gun incidents are just a daily occurrence in your shooting gallery you call a country). Once the us just consists of gun nuts, we can just let them fight it out among themselves.
 
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The cops just stood around outside the school for 90 minutes letting it happen. These pigs aren't going to save you and it usually just puts you in even more danger if you call them. If anything, this is a case for more guns if you want to be able to protect yourself since the cops definitely won't.
more guns is stupid, the more bullets flying in an area, the more innocent people get hurt. it's really not that hard to understand, especially when we have scenarios where the "good guy with a gun" gets blasted because how can you tell they are actually a good guy? like this https://www.npr.org/2018/11/13/6672...security-guard-who-detained-suspected-shooter.
 
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Isn't it time we started thinking of evacuating people who want to live in a normal country? It's the same fucking carousel of arguments every time a mass shooting happens.
Well... A shooting that still manages to shock the world (I'm lead to believe that gun incidents are just a daily occurrence in your shooting gallery you call a country). Once the us just consists of gun nuts, we can just let them fight it out among themselves.
For real. The rest of the world needs to start treating the US like the third-world country it is now, sending humanitarian aid and giving us cost-efficient paths for migrating to countries with a much higher floor for social spending. Start running some, "for XX cents a day you could put body armor on American kindergartners" commercials. Then maybe a few politicians might feel the need to do something about it, though still probably not enough.
 
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shootings aren't that bad in the US, people are just overreacting.

Hell gun deaths are overblown, they aren't too bad, it's just the really bad ones that get onto international news.
 
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"We need fewer guns!" "We need more guns!"

We need fewer crazy people. We also need fewer people who have no idea what a fascist even is. A fascist is not "whatever definition best serves your ends right now" - a fascist is a type of socialist who believes in the Hegelian Synthesis of the public and private sectors. Fascists have written plenty about what they desire. (I suppose this is just the "fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascist" thing in action, given that the World Economic Forum and Antifa have so many opinions in common.)

And this is the country that wants to force a baby boom. Fix yo shit, America.
Where oh where is the option that the abortionist misses between "have a population explosion" and "murder loads of little babies"? It's that magical one where women keep it in their knickers. Does anyone even realise how hard Roe herself has been repenting for lying about being raped to coerce the US Supreme Court into legislating that women can kill kids? (The court isn't even meant to do that. The Judicial branch has no power to make laws; but it can use the US constitution as a beatstick to do just that. Sometimes it's good - the First Amendment protections against censorship would only apply to Congress if the Supreme Court didn't make it illegal for the executive to censor anyone: but really the First itself should be changed to apply to everyone.)
 
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I thank heaven (or my past karma) for being born and living in Italy, which compared to the US is heaven on earth. Even our famous and ruthless criminal organizations (Mafia, Camorra, 'Ndrangheta) have a code of conduct, a morality and a certain compassion towards the poor, which makes them (perhaps) better than some of your frustrated teenagers, misfits, with no values and future prospects, ready only to wreak havoc on them and those around them. We are sure that it is a true mental illness (paranoia, schizophrenia, bipolarism, depression) and not a much more widespread and understimated moral disease (not believe in the values of family, work, solidarity, cooperation, friendship but instead aim solely for easy gain, to narcissism and vanity, to sexual enjoyment without feeling, to the numbness and stupidity caused by alcohol, drugs and psychotropic meds)? ....:teach:
 

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In America a gun is more valuable than a human life
Here in quebec, a mere revolver is worth over 5k$
So when a kill is commited with it, the criminal doesn't leave the gun on the crime scene, it's way too valuable
So right now, we've got like a couple of cases where multiple murders are connected by the same weapons
 

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Guns aren't the problem here, the problem is mental health.
Mental health is an important component, but it's hardly the full story. Other countries have people with mental health problems, and they don't suffer frequent mass shootings the way the US does. Why? People don't have easy access to guns.

In theory having that many gun owners around should discourage mass shootings
This seems to be a common misconception. Mass shooters have already given up their will to live; they don't care if one of their potential victims also has a gun and might shoot first. They just want to take out as many people as they can before they die.
 

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shootings aren't that bad in the US, people are just overreacting.

Hell gun deaths are overblown, they aren't too bad, it's just the really bad ones that get onto international news.
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wait, saying the right to own guns should be kept is unexcusable? what kind of backwards ass world do we live in?
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shootings aren't that bad in the US, people are just overreacting.

Hell gun deaths are overblown, they aren't too bad, it's just the really bad ones that get onto international news.

"shooting aren't that bad in he US" is excusing the unexcusable. a) the US is a horror show of mass shootings and b) if you have a recurring mass shootings "it is that bad".

As for "what kind of backwards ass world do we live in?". I live in a gun regulated world were kids don't get mass murderer often. You live in a world where they do. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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"shooting aren't that bad in he US" is excusing the unexcusable. a) the US is a horror show of mass shootings and b) if you have a recurring mass shootings "it is that bad".

As for "what kind of backwards ass world do we live in?". I live in a gun regulated world were kids don't get mass murderer every often. You live in a world where they do. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I was not excusing mass shootings, they're horrible. I was just saying that they aren't that bad in the US, I've never seen a mass shooting in my life other than on the news. The only time when I've seen a shooting of any kind was when someone was killed at an apartment 3 blocks from my house with a pistol.

The only time shootings are seen on the news is when a ton of people are shot, and that's way overblown on the news. Are they horrible? Yes, but they are overblown and we don't deserve to lose our guns because of a few bad apples.
 

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I was not excusing mass shootings, they're horrible. I was just saying that they aren't that bad in the US
That's pretty relative. If you live in Spain, which according to @pustal's source has had only one shooting in the last thirty years, you'd probably say that mass shootings in the US are indeed very bad and totally out of control.
 
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I was not excusing mass shootings, they're horrible. I was just saying that they aren't that bad in the US, I've never seen a mass shooting in my life other than on the news. The only time when I've seen a shooting of any kind was when someone was killed at an apartment 3 blocks from my house with a pistol.

The only time shootings are seen on the news is when a ton of people are shot, and that's way overblown on the news. Are they horrible? Yes, but they are overblown and we don't deserve to lose our guns because of a few bad apples.
you are pathetic

you say "mass shooting aren't that bad in the US"
You know what that means? it means you are used to it
 

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