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U.S. Supreme Court set to overturn Roe v. Wade abortion rights decision

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jesus christ, these articles are pissing you off so hard it's so unreal.

I never meant them to prove my point, I meant them to laugh at stupid liberals. Apparently, you're on the left side, if you're so angry that you think I'm attempting to use these as proof rather than making fun of abortionists.
And yet all that is happening is you've created a laughing stock of yourself.

Do you really lack that amount of self awareness?

the heartbeat.

Except that is, as you've been repeatedly told, not scientifically accurate.

So your argument is at best circular.
 
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the heartbeat.
I asked a question about who gets to make the determination that babies are being killed, and you didn't answer me. The argument that it's a heartbeat that makes them babies is a separate issue. Would you like to try again?

On that topic, a mindless automaton can have a heartbeat. Other animals can have heartbeats. A zygote doesn't have a heartbeat. Could you clarify? Your positions seem wildly inconsistent.
 
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And yet all that is happening is you've created a laughing stock of yourself.

Do you really lack that amount of self awareness?
to be honest, not really. I lack a total amount of self-awareness half the time on the internet, considering I don't even have to watch myself unless it's rules, as I'm completely anonymous.

I'm not kidding, I'm serious.
 

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The exact reason why his ability to answer simple questions is impaired doesn’t change the calculus here. It’s a shame, because I’m genuinely interested in the results of that poll, particularly because it seems that they’re repeatable, even in the wake of a possible Roe v. Wade repeal. It’s probably the best time to have these kinds of discussions since the original ruling.
It's the best time to have qualified discussions. Not to let misinformation professionals poison the debate.

For this one in particular I've seen:
Equating pregnancy to disease, non-sentience to worthlessness, embyros to cancer/not-humans
Maybe you need to re-read as it seems you understood nothing?


Science changes sometimes. I might be wrong now, but I might be right later.
Yeah sorry, this is a pointless point to make. Decisions need to be made now and long-term thinking shouldn't rely on vacuous possibilities.


Except that is, as you've been repeatedly told, not scientifically accurate.

So your argument is at best circular.
He doesn't care because the false rhetoric of "killing babies" is a powerful manipulation tool which works well on imbeciles.
 
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to be honest, not really. I lack a total amount of self-awareness half the time on the internet, considering I don't even have to watch myself unless it's rules, as I'm completely anonymous.

I'm not kidding, I'm serious.
That's self control, not self awareness.
 

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That's self control, not self awareness.
no that's self awareness.

I probably lack both, but more of self awareness considering I don't even know what's going on in this thread half the time, just that i know that my position is most likely more correct.
 

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no that's self awareness.

I probably lack both, but more of self awareness considering I don't even know what's going on in this thread half the time, just that i know that my position is most likely more correct.
Again, not knowing what is going on in the thread is not self awareness.

Your position is not likely more correct, that is just you assuming that you're right because you think you're right.
 
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i thought self awareness was exactly that.

you admit that you don't know what's going on, you just spout stuff you were taught at a very early age.
"Self-awareness is the ability to focus on yourself and how your actions, thoughts, or emotions do or don't align with your internal standards. If you're highly self-aware, you can objectively evaluate yourself, manage your emotions, align your behavior with your values, and understand correctly how others perceive you."
 
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Science changes sometimes. I might be wrong now, but I might be right later.

I'm going to be completely honest, I have respect for anyone who can squeeze an entire human out their vagina or allow their stomach to be ripped open to get their baby out. I just don't exactly like it when abortion is used as sex control.

Every political party is stupid, with stupid people. I can agree with that.

I agree that it doesn't matter, it just felt weird how you thought I was genuinely trying to make someone angry. I was probably going too far, and I'm sorry for doing that. My stance won't change too much, but I do respect you.

And if the science changes, I will support it.

I don't necessarily disagree with you there, however I feel that particular point, birth control, is hugely fabricated by uneducatable pro lifers, and that's not fair to the women who get one for a "valid reason".

Don't worry about it. I apologize for my offense. It's a forum. We're all going to come across a little off.
 
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"Self-awareness is the ability to focus on yourself and how your actions, thoughts, or emotions do or don't align with your internal standards. If you're highly self-aware, you can objectively evaluate yourself, manage your emotions, align your behavior with your values, and understand correctly how others perceive you."
can you put that in less smart terms? I can't understand half this stuff considering how, well, smart these words are
 
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can you put that in less smart terms? I can't understand half this stuff considering how, well, smart these words are
By thinking you are smart and getting one over on all the "lefties", you lack self awareness because you can't understand how you actually look.
 

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i agree, i am very stupid just because I think babies deserve a chance at life.
There's more to a chance at life than just existing. There's being supported, having access to education, healthcare, and the right to life safely. And America cannot offer these things right now unless you belong to a higher class. If this were REALLY about babies, and not about controlling women, you people would worry about their life, not their birth.
 

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